(name deleted) steals 4.5 million from honest players

[Awntawn]

So Gatts, basically you're saying...

"It's just a game, I'm paying for it and I can do whatever I want"

This game involves people, and people have morals.

True, there are some people here who are posting that they don't care. Obviously, they didn't do anything, so they wouldn't feel cheated out of anything. As for me, 80% of what I've been doing ingame has been dedicated to the HNM LS. I could have been levelling up and doing other stuff, why did I chose to go? Why would I go and camp tediously for a spawn that we have a low chance in getting? Why would I waste my time? I'm sorry Gatts, but I wasn't doing it to help you raise your guild skills, and no I don't give a fuck about your "dream." I expected something in return, as did everyone else who went with you. Whenever I was online and there was a hunt, I would be there. Same as a worker in a factory. He doesn't give a fuck about what the entrepreneur dreams about. He wants his fucking check, and he's gonna bitch when he doesn't get it.

When we gave you the stuff, we didn't say "Here Gatts, have fun." You said, "I will use it train my guild skills and it will belong to the LS, and it will eventually benefit the LS as a whole," and we said, "OK, we trust you." You lied. You pulled what is known to most as a "scam," and betrayed our trust.

[Awntawn]

Originally posted by Deli
does ur LS have a treasurer?

Um, yeah, he ran off, and we're trying to get people to understand how low his actions were.

1) It's wrong to ditch an HNM LS without a good reason (you and your fucking dream and go suck a man pipe)

2) Most leaders of HNM LS's don't just up and leave. Members come and go as they please, but the leader has a goddamn commitment.

3) It's wrong to ditch an HNM LS when you are in control of their assets. Sure you gave some of it back. You tossed a bit out to random people without any regard of how much each had contributed, it was their noble decision to split it with the rest. You just wanted to make some people happy so you could have some support because you knew people would be pissed at what you're doing.

4) It's wrong to ditch an HNM LS after a bulk of their assets have been invested into your guilding skill that was meant for the LS. I don't give a fuck what you say, you and your friend got a free mil in guilding. So you could have done it on your own? Then why didn't you? Why didn't you BEFORE you started a goddamn HNM LS. That way you wouldn't have wasted everyone's fucking time, and it wouldn't look like you had taken advantage of us.

Each one of these alone is excusable I suppose. Stick'em all together. And you honestly say you didn't do anything wrong?

If you're not prepared for a stick, don't jam it up your ass. You obviously weren't prepared to leave the LS, but you did anyways. "Sorry, but I'm leaving now. You, you, and you. Here, look I'm giving you shit. As for the rest, good bye!"

And like xuande said, all of the money previously invested was completely wasted. Now that 3 out of 4 of our designated guilders (Gantoris, Gatts, and Orts) are now in gone, we have to literally start from scratch.

[Extreme]

1- Gatts didn't plan on an elaborate scam, but never-the-less he left with profits that weren't his, and abandoned his responsibilities.

2- BotH members, in the end you got screwed.

3- Why RE invited the leader of another HNM ls to join theres is beyond me... can we say 'eliminate the competition'?

Take care now, bye bye then~

[Awntawn]

Originally posted by Extreme
1- Gatts didn't plan on an elaborate scam, but never-the-less he left with profits that weren't his, and abandoned his responsibilities.

2- BotH members, in the end you got screwed.

3- Why RE invited the leader of another HNM ls to join theres is beyond me... can we say 'eliminate the competition'?

Take care now, bye bye then~

Yep, that's how I see it.

[joey_pizz]

I think we've dragged this out long enough, its only been 24 hours and already we have 7 pages (?_?) lol.

But i do know one thing for sure. I'm sure some of us wouldn't loose sleep if Gatts decided to take up Ice's offer :spin: :spin:

[Awntawn]

This is a waste of time. Gatts can't return what he's already spent on guilding, and it would be unreasonable on our part if we made him earn it back and return it. Just think twice the next time you plan on trusting this irresponsible indivitual again.

And for your information, there is a new HNM LS being created. The older members are invited. As for the previously designated guilders, you're welcome to continue your role the new LS. The system will be structured so that no individual will be able to take advantage of the group as a whole as was demonstrated in this ordeal.

[TheMidg]

Originally posted by struck
** Off topic **

Shinjii "I told Gatts that I will leave if you and Russta came in so to as to prevent both of Ikari and I from running into conflicts. Gatts said told me not to leave. But, I have posted in the Band of the Hawks forum right now, that I will leave so that both of you can have the rightful place in that LS."

What happened with this Gatts? Guess we didn't fit in even when you had no reason not to invite us eh? I never said I was mad or bitter so i'm not sure why you've gone and listed my name, but if you play your cards just right you might just make me mad. Please don't tell me how I feel because you don't know me.

Is someone pissing my Ailis off? Who? Just tell me Ailis, gime their name, I will kick their ass! :mad:

[struck]

Originally posted by TheMidg


Is someone pissing my Ailis off? Who? Just tell me Ailis, gime their name, I will kick their ass! :mad:

lemme buy your account midg I gotta get that fungas cap back somehow!

[Awntawn]

Originally posted by davidmmmm9

I wasn't upset. I was a little dissapointed because I figured I wouldn't get to kill any more HNM's for a long time, but I enjoyed being able to kill behemoth, simurgh and roc. For all the level 60's and around in our linkshell, realize that we wouldn't be accepted into another hnm ls, we were lucky to be able to kill those at all.
I had fun, but all things come to an end
whatever happens, happens.

Of course you weren't upset, you got a behemoth mant...

[Aldo]

Originally posted by Awntawn
And for your information, there is a new HNM LS being created. The older members are invited. As for the previously designated guilders, you're welcome to continue your role the new LS. The system will be structured so that no individual will be able to take advantage of the group as a whole as was demonstrated in this ordeal.

....no one listens to me. Anyhow...you people have said all you need to say. This thread needs to be reported/closed/moderated, just having it span 7 pages and get over 1000 hits under 24hrs shows it is causing problems. /searches for report button...but can't find it. :confused: BTW ya sure Skye just /tell me man anytime, I got nothing to do now so we can hunt that bastard Argus 24-7 like Pocari XD XD

[Yuna]

Probably not the best solution ever but can I recommend a way out to this. Since BoH is continuing from what I hear, and money has already been invested into gatts and gant and ariele... I suggest whenever a guilding need arises, those 3 people do it 100% for free as long as the proper items are provided.

Lame but might work. Gatts and whoever can continue skilling up guild and any BoH guilding needs gets done for free.

[Dont Bot Play Fair]

Originally posted by Aldo
Am I the only one is is morbidly amused by this? Oh and I don't think the people who got angry at you were "only" Requiem people. I think the only people who didn't throw a hissfit were me and Gantoris, and Orts. And 2 of you are in RE now, so...have fun and see you around sometime ^^:;;

well me and Ecko also

[Dont Bot Play Fair]

you guys are all being really unfair to gatts... he didnt do it so he could get more stuff the only ????ing reson he made BOTH is so he could fight strong hnms but you need 70s to do that how many do we have 3 a pld a drk a rdm.he did say that we could continue with out him but xua kinda started the thing by as soon as he said " RE has invited me to come with them i will continue guilding for you i just wont go on the hunts,now im not stealing the moeny its going to a good use i bought all of you stuff" Xuande"**** you gatts thanks for wasting my time im droping my pearl" he didnt mean for this to happen you brought it all on ur selves he wanted us to keep going he is really only 1 person and we have two more plds. like what hero said the only people who didnt have a hissy was him me ecko orts and Gant. it is also just a game, kirashi and road were make fun of me for being young(14)... if you are making fun of me for BEING young you shouldnt be ACTING young u are have fricking hissy fits. its not that bad. gatts only did this to have fun not to abanden us thats what games are about right? fun... if he wasnt having fun with us he should leave. and you say "oh why the h*** is he only buying some people stuff" for my knolage the only people who didnt get stuff were the ones right when he said went "**** you"
and xua and Kirashi were shouting about it i think xua even said he would call a gm.... the GM prolly wouldnt think it was a good enough reson for calling him.

[Awntawn]

gatts bought arvy flare

he also bought ecko raise2

and he gave miya a behemoth mant.

so we got 3 of your supporters here. anyone else?

[Dont Bot Play Fair]

yeah he bought xua and lem the mantels but they all said FUCK You.... so he didnt give it to them he ASLO said any of you that didnt get somthing u will resevie it soon cuz my invintory isnt that big and u all said **** you like he WASNT giving anything and he decided that he didnt wanna give the mean people stuff. awn u dont really count cuz u wernt there....