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    Briefing: Gatts (from Ragnarok) started an HNM LS called BandoftheHawk. We sold 2 serket rings and 1 damascus ingot for a grand total of 7.5 million gil. Everyone who participated earned a piece of this. But we mutually decided that it should go towards increasing guilding. The guilders were determined as Gatts, Gantoris, and Ariele.

    Today: Gatts quits BandoftheHawk and joins Rubyeyes. What happened to the 7.5 million you ask? Well, it just so happens, gatts is now boasting 70+ tanning skill. He bought 2 behemoth mants as a farewell gift to give to certain members, as if to justify the money he stole from us. He also bought a couple spells worth around 200k. Total money given back to the LS is estimated at around 3 million. Yes. Thats a 4.5 million difference from 7.5 million. Where is this 4.5 million? The members of the LS that EARNED it have no idea.

    I hearby make an open invitation to gatts to return the money he has stolen. There's nothing I can do to get this money back besides making this simple request.

    To Ariele and Gant: According to gatts, you were each entrusted with 1.3 million. This amount is not in proportion to the amount that you earned. Once we figure out what the total LS asset is, we can determine what everyone deserves. But it is far less than 1.3 million. If you could please cooperate with us in making this fair. We want everyone to get a fair amount based on the amount of time they invested.

    I know certain people will argue with me so I have some pre-emptive retorts:

    - Yes, I know there were 3 behemoth mants given out. However, one of these was made with a skin we already had. So, this has nothing to do with the original 7.5 million.

    - Yes, I know the curing staff was returned. But this also has nothing to do with the original 7.5 million. The value of the staff will be computed into the final total so we can figure out who gets what, based on participation.

    - Yes, I know Gatts, Gant, and Ariele deserve something too, as each of them participated. However, the amount they recieved is well in excess of the amount they deserve. If there is a grand total of 10 million asset in the LS, no one person deserves over 1 million. This is ridiculous.
    Gatts - PLD75/WAR37
    and you call your self a canadian

    PiNG broke my sig and all I got was this T-shirt.

  • #2
    Gantoris: 700,000GP
    Syara: 275,000GP
    Kurochan: 200,000GP
    Icemaple: 200,000GP
    Fantome: 250,000GP
    Shinjii: 125,000GP
    Arvy: 950,000GP
    Ikari: 200,000GP
    Elijah: 75,000GP
    Buttermilk: 200,000GP
    Hamasaki: 450,000GP
    Hakuzero: 0GP
    Farplaner: 25,000GP
    Drizzt: 950,000GP
    Ariele: 0GP
    Qoomage: 25,000GP
    Atrox: 200,000GP
    Xuande: 1,350,000GP
    Skye: 100,000GP
    Ecko: 625,000GP
    Kirashi: 425,000GP
    Cobbi: 0GP
    Stryder: 1,100,000GP
    Awntawn: 1,100,000GP
    Lemia: 1,325,000GP
    Blizzy: 1,075,000GP
    Oscar: 550,000GP
    Orts: 1,325,000GP
    Elite: 200,000GP
    Herodrink: 200,000GP
    Shigeru: 225,000GP
    Tigerfang: 0GP
    Leonclc: 0GP
    Miyamotomusashi: 400,000GP

    a total of 14.17million of GP collected
    the 3 mants, the mission 4.5 mil and the rock staff i believe we can get about this amount and distribute to the people who earned it (whoever accepted the spell and learnt it is a - of course)
    omfgbbq ;3

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    • #3
      Here is the point system chart, which Gatts has moderated himself. It shows well the amount of participation each member has given.

      I would also like to warn all english speaking members of Ruby Eyes that this scammer is now in your linkshell. Keep your eyes open. If I were you, I wouldn't want a known scammer like this on the same team.

      EDIT: seems kira beat me too it. Oh well.

      ---------------------------------------------------------

      By hunting NM and HNM, you can earn Gil Points (GP). These are recorded in the forum so that you can see how many you have. I will also keep a paper copy of how many GP everyone has. HNM items and equipment can be obtained by winning an auction for them. There will be a minimum bid for the items, which is 25% of their current AH price (the last price in the bid history). To earn GP for an HNM hunt, you must be at the camp area when the HNM pops, and you must help fight it. GP will also be awarded for organized, large-scale NM hunts. The amount of GP obtainable from each event is as follows:

      Serket, Capricious Cassie, Behemoth, all HNM that drop damascus ingot: 200,000GP

      Beast Kings (except ocean sahagin and antican king):
      250,000GP

      Dragon HNM:
      300,000GP

      Lumber Jack:
      150,000GP

      King Arthro:
      100,000GP

      NM hunts:
      25,000GP per location hunted

      Bonus for aggroing an HNM first:
      50,000GP

      Losing HNM fight:
      50,000GP

      GP Status

      Gatts: 1,475,000GP
      Gantoris: 700,000GP
      Syara: 275,000GP
      Kurochan: 200,000GP
      Icemaple: 200,000GP
      Fantome: 250,000GP
      Shinjii: 125,000GP
      Arvy: 950,000GP
      Ikari: 200,000GP
      Elijah: 75,000GP
      Buttermilk: 200,000GP
      Hamasaki: 450,000GP
      Hakuzero: 0GP
      Farplaner: 25,000GP
      Drizzt: 950,000GP
      Ariele: 0GP
      Qoomage: 25,000GP
      Atrox: 200,000GP
      Xuande: 1,350,000GP
      Skye: 100,000GP
      Ecko: 625,000GP
      Kirashi: 425,000GP
      Cobbi: 0GP
      Stryder: 1,100,000GP
      Awntawn: 1,100,000GP
      Lemia: 1,325,000GP
      Blizzy: 1,075,000GP
      Oscar: 550,000GP
      Orts: 1,325,000GP
      Elite: 200,000GP
      Herodrink: 200,000GP
      Shigeru: 225,000GP
      Tigerfang: 0GP
      Leonclc: 0GP
      Miyamotomusashi: 400,000GP

      Events points have been awarded for:

      Sahagin Hunt - Abyss, Coral, and HNM Ocean Sahagin - 25,000GP
      Yagudo Hunt - Yagudo High Priest, Yagudo Templar - 25,000GP
      Serket Fight - Loss - 50,000GP
      Serket Fight - Win - 200,000GP
      Lumber Jack Fight - Win - 150,000GP
      Simurgh Fight - Win - 200,000GP
      Lumber Jack Fight - Win - 150,000GP
      Serket Fight - Win - 200,000GP
      Roc Fight - Win - 200,000GP
      Behemoth Fight - Win - 200,000GP
      Antican NM Hunt - Win - 25,000GP
      DRK75 / THF37 / WAR37 / RDM60 / BLM31 / PLD11

      ohnoez

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      • #4
        I just had a fairly lengthy AIM conversation with gatts and he shows no desire of returning the money he has stolen. I find it disappointing that this game harbours such a low-life type of person.
        Gatts - PLD75/WAR37
        and you call your self a canadian

        PiNG broke my sig and all I got was this T-shirt.

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        • #5
          Road had GP too...

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          • #6
            XiaoGo = me
            ABknight10 = gatts

            I don't know what to believe, I just know that I spent time hunting and I don't have shit yet

            Well blah, I'm going to sleep.

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            XiaoGo: deleting the threads isn't going to help
            ABknight10: it's not right for you guys to say stuff that isn't true
            XiaoGo: explain then
            ABknight10: you weren't there. you only have one side of the story
            XiaoGo: explain then
            XiaoGo: i'm hearing one side from the majority
            ABknight10: you're hearing one side from requiem people
            ABknight10: here's what happened
            XiaoGo: well?
            ABknight10: all i want out of an hnm ls is to hunt the strongest hnm. i don't care abotu

            equipment, gil, whatever. i made the hawks to try to hunt hnm. but the hawks did not become

            what i wanted. too many of the people were only invited out of necessity. too many people never

            wanted to hunt. too many people were not high enough level. i don't know how much longer i will

            play ffxi, but i have always wanted to fight the strongest stuff. there't no way the hawks will

            be able to do that in the near future. i got invited to RE because they need another pld to

            fight dragons, beast gods, etc. so i took them up on it
            ABknight10: i gave back everything that the ls still had. all the items and everything
            ABknight10: i kept no items or gil for myself
            XiaoGo: so where'd the rest go?
            ABknight10: i have 10k gil on me because i won lucky roll tonight
            ABknight10: the rest went to guilding
            XiaoGo: so you wasted all of our time
            ABknight10: gant adn ariele each got 1.3 million for guilding
            XiaoGo: to raise your guilding skills
            ABknight10: i dind't do this to fool you
            XiaoGo: we make guilding money for you
            ABknight10: i don't care who believes me
            ABknight10: you guys are seriously crazy about this
            ABknight10: ruby eyes has a lv 90.? guilder. i don't need it
            ABknight10: i guilded so that i could make equipment for our ls
            XiaoGo: you broke your LS
            ABknight10: but today i decided it was time to leave
            XiaoGo: for personal reasons
            ABknight10: right
            XiaoGo: when you make a HNM LS
            XiaoGo: you take on responsibilities
            ABknight10: i took on all the responsibility
            ABknight10: that was one of the problems
            ABknight10: no one else was willing to help with shit
            XiaoGo: you can't just run off as the beneficiary
            ABknight10: if you want something, ask lemia and blizzy. they have all the items
            XiaoGo: they have less than half of what we earned
            ABknight10: you all sound like a bunch of greedy bastards
            XiaoGo: greedy bastards?
            XiaoGo: we spend all that time
            XiaoGo: and YOU got the benefit
            ABknight10: if it weren't for me, none of you would have ever gotten shit
            XiaoGo: if it weren't for requiem
            ABknight10: no
            XiaoGo: BoH wouldn't have killed anything
            XiaoGo: you wouldn't have been able to
            ABknight10: all requiem brough was like 5 people who do nothing but bitch and cuss the whole

            time
            ABknight10: i hated it
            XiaoGo: xuande is your bard
            ABknight10: that's why i didn't want to merge in the first place
            XiaoGo: gant did nothing
            XiaoGo: NOTHING
            ABknight10: fuck xuande. that guy is messed up
            ABknight10: i'm serious
            XiaoGo: he joined serket fights, that's all
            XiaoGo: let me as you
            XiaoGo: WHO HAS THE MOST POINTS
            XiaoGo: WE do
            XiaoGo: we did EVERYTHING
            ABknight10: you were nothing without me
            XiaoGo: and you were nothing without us
            ABknight10: otherwise you wouldn't have joined my ls
            XiaoGo: what did you kill before we joined you?
            XiaoGo: what could you have killed?
            ABknight10: we just started the day before
            XiaoGo: horse shit
            ABknight10: we have 35 members in teh hawks
            XiaoGo: you started at least a week
            ABknight10: you have like 5-6 requiem people
            XiaoGo: none of them are willing to do any shit
            XiaoGo: those 5-6
            XiaoGo: were in every goddamn hunt
            ABknight10: fine, then give yourselves a big pat on the back
            ABknight10: i don't give a fuck
            ABknight10: it's af ucking game
            XiaoGo: the point stands
            XiaoGo: you and your friends wasted OUT time
            ABknight10: go fuck yourself and anyone else who is so pissed
            XiaoGo: what did ariele do? what did gant do?
            XiaoGo: why do they deserve what they got?
            XiaoGo: i haven't seen ariele at a single hunt
            ABknight10: they were working towards something for the sake of the ls
            XiaoGo: and how did that help us?
            XiaoGo: you broke it before it could
            ABknight10: broke what?
            ABknight10: i didn't break anything
            XiaoGo: the LS
            ABknight10: when i left, i was hoping that someone would take over the leader and keep going
            XiaoGo: right
            ABknight10: but you all ran off like a bunch of pussies
            XiaoGo: when all of the loot
            XiaoGo: all of the money invested
            XiaoGo: is gone
            ABknight10: "oh, we can't do shit without gatts. fuck you gatts"
            XiaoGo: we couldn't care less about what you do
            ABknight10: you all suck. you're nothing but a bunch of followers. you can't do anything by

            yourselves
            XiaoGo: give us all our deserved loot
            XiaoGo: and be on your merry way
            ABknight10: fuck you
            ABknight10: you got all you'll get
            XiaoGo: do you honestly feel
            XiaoGo: that you and your friends deserve the share you took?
            XiaoGo: i don't care what you spent it on; it's yours now
            ABknight10: wait
            ABknight10: i have hardly ever talked to ariele
            XiaoGo: you have your skills to benefit yourselves now
            ABknight10: but ariele had lv50 something weaving
            ABknight10: we all agreed to let him weave
            ABknight10: gant had 30 something blacksmith
            ABknight10: and i deserved to guild more than anyone else because i was doing everything
            XiaoGo: how do you expect us to believe
            ABknight10: you know what? i don't give a fuck if you believe
            XiaoGo: that this wasn't all just a scam to get us to kill shit for you to earn money
            ABknight10: i don't give a shit if you believe or not
            ABknight10: i know it wasn't
            ABknight10: there's no way to tell you any more
            ABknight10: i don't care if you all hate me
            ABknight10: i can't do anything with my lv70 tannery
            ABknight10: i didn't benefit at all from teh ls, other than actually fighting
            XiaoGo: you got 70 tannery
            ABknight10: right...?
            ABknight10: so what?
            ABknight10: everything i can make costs more to make than to sell
            XiaoGo: until a HQ pops
            XiaoGo: then u make money
            ABknight10: how can i afford it?
            ABknight10: i have 10k
            XiaoGo: have fun fighting your HNM's
            ABknight10: wow, you really made a good point here
            XiaoGo: i'm sure your fellow members will be happy to have you
            XiaoGo: knowing you for the scam you are
            ABknight10: you and your requiem people need to stop telling me shit
            ABknight10: ruby eyes knows you requiem people and xuande are fucked up
            ABknight10: people are making fun of xua all night
            ABknight10: he looks so retarded
            ABknight10: running everywhere shouting that i stole gil
            ABknight10: you people seriously need something else in your lives
            ABknight10: if you are so freakin possessed over this
            ABknight10: it's just a game goddammnit
            ABknight10: i can't believe you would all hate someone like this
            ABknight10: i don't even know how much longer i'm going to play
            XiaoGo: you wasted my time
            XiaoGo: and all of our time
            ABknight10: you wated your own time
            ABknight10: the game is a waste of time
            XiaoGo: i expected something in return
            ABknight10: stop playing and stop acting like such a bitch
            XiaoGo: who's the bitch who ran off with a few mil in guilding?
            DRK75 / THF37 / WAR37 / RDM60 / BLM31 / PLD11

            ohnoez

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            • #7
              Part 2

              Edit: RAGNAROK DRAMA BACK IN ACTION WOOHOO

              /slap xua for posting in the wrong board, if any mod would be so kind to put this in the rag forum, thankyee in advance :D

              ---------------------------

              XiaoGo: and god knows what else you spent it on
              XiaoGo: all we know is that money goes into the black box
              XiaoGo: and it doesn't come out
              ABknight10: god, you guys suck. all you keep bringing up is this few million you think i took
              ABknight10: i'm done talking you and your requiem chronies. fuck you, get a life you obsessed

              freaks
              XiaoGo: if it doesn't mean shit to you, give it back
              XiaoGo: requiem's not the only ones that are pissed
              ABknight10: i can't give any of it back. i don't have it. it was all spent on guilding
              XiaoGo: everyone you scammed
              XiaoGo: well in that case
              ABknight10: there is no scam. you and x are dillusional
              XiaoGo: i'm sorry
              ABknight10: ?
              XiaoGo: and i apologize in advance if anything unfortunate happens in the future
              XiaoGo: i know shit happens, but sometimes you end up hurting others without trying
              XiaoGo: with great power comes great responsibility :p
              ABknight10: what are you talking about?
              XiaoGo: i suppose if you want to be irresponsible and run off, leaving everyone in the dust
              ABknight10: are you referring to xuande's "consequences" that i'm going to have to face?
              XiaoGo: you can try to use that to justify your actions
              XiaoGo: but the fact remains that you've acted extremely irresponsible and have left a lot of

              people unhappy
              XiaoGo: even if you're not an "evil scamming bitch"
              ABknight10: no i havn't
              ABknight10: this is not hard to deal with
              ABknight10: if everyone else wasn't such a pussy someone would step up and lead the ls
              ABknight10: my leaving is not a big deal
              XiaoGo: where did all the money for the LS go? into the guilding
              XiaoGo: where did the guilders go?
              ABknight10: then start over
              XiaoGo: we trusted you
              ABknight10: we did not kill that much stuff
              XiaoGo: do you consider yourself trustworthy after what you've done?
              ABknight10: yes i do
              XiaoGo: so if RE's guilders left
              XiaoGo: and they trusted you to guild some
              XiaoGo: you would consider yourself worthy?
              ABknight10: yes
              XiaoGo: worthy of millions in investments?
              ABknight10: yes
              XiaoGo: so what if something happened to RE and they couldn't take on fafnir and king behe
              XiaoGo: would you ditch them as well?
              ABknight10: if x could see this coming a mile away like he claims he could (hindsight bias)

              then why did you all join me?
              XiaoGo: like i said
              XiaoGo: we trusted you
              ABknight10: awn, what happens if i had to quit playing ffxi tomorrow?
              ABknight10: then the same results
              ABknight10: it's a game
              XiaoGo: then you are one irresponsible little bitch
              ABknight10: get the fuck over it or stop playing
              XiaoGo: nuff said
              ABknight10: no
              ABknight10: it's a game
              ABknight10: i lead you all
              ABknight10: it's over
              ABknight10: get a fucking life
              ABknight10: so far no one has come to me with anything i sreiously did wrong. all you have are

              false accusations of me planning this from the start, which i did not
              ABknight10: someone had to be tanner, and i deserved it
              ABknight10: i did not know i would be joining re
              XiaoGo: either A) you did, B) you're irresponsible
              ABknight10: neither
              ABknight10: i said i'd continue to make stuff for you all
              ABknight10: but you weren't there and everyone else freaked out and left crying
              ABknight10: i tried my best to leave on a good note. we killed simurgh, i gave away all teh

              stuff the ls had, then said goodbye
              ABknight10: if you were all really into hunting still, then just kill some more fucking hnm and

              get the 4.5 million back
              XiaoGo: how about this
              ABknight10: that's like 2 hnm
              XiaoGo: you go kill them
              XiaoGo: and give us the goddamn stuff
              ABknight10: how about this
              ABknight10: you go fuck yourself
              ABknight10: btw, your friend seymore acted like an asshole to me. i wouldn't have let him join

              the ls after the way he tried to handle that
              ABknight10: i'm done talking you people now
              ABknight10: i left. i don't owe any of you anything
              ABknight10: i know who my real friends are
              XiaoGo: yeah
              ABknight10: so you can all go to hell
              XiaoGo: the ones who you jack money with
              ABknight10: shut the fuck up
              XiaoGo: have a nice night ^_~
              ABknight10: you are as much of a pussy as xua is
              ABknight10: go get drako's GM friend to bring down the pain on me
              ABknight10: or do you have other dire consequences in mind? like maybe you will keep shouting

              stuff about me in jeuno
              XiaoGo: that's about as useful as calling in an armor of domokuns, but oh well
              XiaoGo: *army
              ABknight10: xua, i didn't want it to be like this. but seriously, you people are too mad over

              something so damn stupid
              ABknight10: *awn
              XiaoGo: doesn't effect me that much, just a little disappointing that's all
              XiaoGo: doesn't piss me off that i lose stuff
              ABknight10: life's full of disappointment. everyone has to go their own way. i actually took

              action and did what i wanted. i lead you guys as muhch as i could
              XiaoGo: pisses me off when others gain stuff they don't deserve by exploiting others
              XiaoGo: if that's not the case, then good night
              DRK75 / THF37 / WAR37 / RDM60 / BLM31 / PLD11

              ohnoez

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              • #8
                You guys are pretty sick. X, i talked to you on aim, and also in-game until i blacklisted you for cussing me out. it's obvious you posted this just to try to make me look bad. the conversation i had with awn should give people a pretty good idea of what happened. in case anyone wants to know more, i'll tell exactly what happened:


                Like i said, i don't know how much longer i will actually be playing ffxi. i have like 2,500 hours logged and i'm in college now. the only reason i keep playing is because i have friends here and i still want to kill the strongest hnm (dragons, beast gods, etc). i made the hnm ls Band of the Hawk to try to accomplish that. however, after a few weeks of hunting the same 5 hnm (serket, behemoth, roc, simurgh, lumber jack), and after i got invited to RE, i decided it was time to move on. after all, i am only 1 person. it takes an entire alliance to kill hnm. when we started the ls, we decided on guilders. i know and my friends know that i did not plan on leaving from teh start. it was only recently that i decided to leave. if i had known, i wouldn't have become a guilder. today, we killed simurgh, and then i told everyone what i had decided to do. i had items worth the total amount of gil that the ls had left that i was going to give to people, and i still had the roc staff to give out. right after i explained to the ls that i was leaving, everyone freaked out, said they hated me, and left. i gave items to the people who deserved them and actually didn't say they always hated me. all the people who got items still have them and are supposedly in your new ls, so if you want gil instead so badly, just sell them. we made a total of 7.5 million from selling 2 serket rings and a damascus ingot. there is 3 million left. 4.5 million was spent on guilding (it seriously takes a lot to get 70 tannery, 50 blacksmith, and 60 weaving), and also on items for hnm fights (hundreds of thousands of gil was spent on yagudo drinks alone for every hnm fight. also poison remedies, oils, powders, yamabiko, food, etc.). when i left i also offered to continue to make equipment for you all until you got another person high enough level tannery. there is nothing more i can do. i got no items, no gil, and a ton of people who hate me from the ls. that's all i got. you guys all at least got something and a chance to fight hnm. almost all of you would never have had a chance to fight any hnm if it weren't for me. i was really hoping that people would understand that i need to do things for myself sometimes too (hunt stronger stuff), and that SOMEONE in teh ls would step up and take over. instead, all of you completely turned on me. the second i told you i was leaving i got this:

                person1's /tell >> you suck

                person2's /tell >> i knew this would happen all along. i hate you you mother******

                person3's /tell >> **** you

                /party nonstop talk about how everyone hates me, cussing me out, etc etc.

                i got /tell from probably everyone in requiem from 10pm to 3am EST. people saying they hate me and calling me a thf and a liar. said they never liked me from teh start and knew i would do this.

                i'm sorry things worked out this way, but this is just a game. i said in the conversation with awn, this game is just a waste of time anyway. i didn't waste anyone's time, i didn't steal any money, i dind't cheat anyone out of anything. i lead the only importer hnm ls and was successful at it. when i decided to leave for my own good, i found out that you were all actually using me, because none of you could ever lead anything. my real friends understand that i needed to leave, and i know that i did nothing wrong.

                if you have anything else to say to me, tell me privately. xuande seriously needs to seek mental help. i had to blacklist him because he was hysterical /tell me for an hour. after i blist him, he went to lower jeuno and /shout in japanese that i'm a thf and i stole 7.5 million gil from him. then he went to behemoth's domain where i was hunting behemoth and shouted the same thing. that guy has serious mental issues. if there is anyone in this game you should watch out for, it's xuande because he takes it way too seriously.
                Gatts - PLD75/WAR37

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                • #9
                  so u meant everyone is puss? because if u did that means me and i dun think i can be ur friend anymore after all that shit u said

                  Ecko~
                  Ecko-The-Gecko

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                  • #10
                    no ecko, i said that about everyone who said they hate me and left. i already told you many times you are one of my only good friends.
                    Gatts - PLD75/WAR37

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                    • #11
                      i dunno man first time i seen u cuss im me am ffxicarnage my aim after all that u said i got really mad i mean mad TT i cant im u i dunno how to work my brothers lap top so please im.

                      ecko~
                      Ecko-The-Gecko

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                      • #12
                        Am I the only one is is morbidly amused by this? Oh and I don't think the people who got angry at you were "only" Requiem people. I think the only people who didn't throw a hissfit were me and Gantoris, and Orts. And 2 of you are in RE now, so...have fun and see you around sometime ^^:;;

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                        • #13
                          one thing tho who in the hell would ask a leader of a HNM LS to join another LS? thats kinda dumbTT


                          Ecko~
                          Ecko-The-Gecko

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                          • #14
                            Although I don't know the entire story here, lemme try and add a few thoughts. (Please, Im going to be respectfull here, Im begging you not to get upset with anything I say and flame me.)

                            I consider myself a mutual friend of every person on BotH. I think you all know me and know Im over all a good person. It's hard for me to see the ls break simply because I knew it was my only chance to ever fight HNM, something I have dreamed about since I got the game. Now that it's broken, I see little-if any- possibility of me joining an HNM ls.

                            Now, I know a few things have happened. Gatts leaves BotH with a large lump sum of money used for his own guilding purposes along with others. Ok, so he used the money from the ls to raise tanning up for the benefit of the linkshell. I can see how this is a touchy area. But there are a few things I know about Gatts.

                            Believe me when I say that he would never, ever, think of skrewing me over. I've known Gatts for a while, near the beginning of the PC import, and he would not just upright leave BotH if it were not for a good reason well knowing that it was my opportunity to fight HNMs along side him. Never would he do that. I know I cannot truly call him a close friend, simply because I have not met him in real life, but I trust him fully.

                            reading this sucks (adding color)

                            I also know that joining RubyEyes has not crossed his mind until the offer. Gatts once mentioned, even before he became the level 70 paladin he is now, that he wanted to make his linkshell. He had plans to include all the originals of CelestialNetwork to be in it. It was his dream for a while. The only one who was able to keep up with Gatts was Gant. Believe me, this was no scam.

                            To sum this up, I know it may seem like a massive scam that was planned out by Gatts. But, and I know you think Im biased right now, I sincerely do not believe he would do such a thing. He's mentioned that he no longer has fun in this game anymore to me. As much as I hate what is happening right now, with all the confusion and anger, I am figuring that these are his last months. He would not have left BotH if they were not, he would have stayed knowing that I'd be able to catch up and join, but.... well.... he left... and....... (im running out of things to say, sorry;; )

                            It's just confusing. I know this is Gatts' last months because he wants to kill the big HNMs before he goes. I know it...... But... I have no way to convince you people who seemingly hate him of the contrary. Im sorry he "skrewed" you over. He only intended on doing good. Im sorry if you hate me now, but I just don't think anyone has really heard Gatts' side of the story;;

                            That's all, thanks for reading;;
                            -viv
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                              Meh, going back to mirage then.
                              /poke Orts I told you this was coming~
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