DRG damage vs. DRK damage

[Awntawn]

No DRG will ever be able to do this:

http://www.kitanet.ne.jp/~genus/adma.html

[Malefas]

Haha Awntawn, that was insane. O_O

[fuz]

The heck? A drk/nin using what seems to be a club? :sweat:

[Xyse]

does that vid's quality depend on my graphic card or the persons that recorded it?

[Fluidstrike]

The person recording was on a lower resolution.

[Fadedsoul]

Originally posted by Malefas


You know, that comment was quite ignorant.

Besides, there are a number of armors up and above 60 as well where DRG gets screwed on (and you can't hide behind your AF), let me show you a list I gathered from the AH. And don't say above 60 doesn't matter, because it does:

Royal Knight's Chainmail
DEF 43, STR +2, DEX +2, Attack +3
Level 55 WAR/PLD/DRK/BST/SAM/NIN

Haubergon
DEF 45, STR +5, DEX +5, AGI-5, Accuracy +10, Attack +10, Evasion -20
Level 59 WAR/PLD/DRK/BST/SAM/NIN

+1 stats are:

STR +6, DEX+6, AGI-5, Accuracy +12, Attack +12, Evasion-20.

Hauberk
DEF 47, STR +5, DEX +5, Accuracy +10, Attack +10, Evasion - 10
Level 69 WAR/DRK/BST

+1 stats are:

DEF 48, STR +6, DEX +6, Accuracy +12, Attack +12, Evasion - 10

Tiger Jerkin
DEF 41, Fire -5, Ice +5, Attack +5
Level 65 WAR/RDM/THF/PLD/DRK/BST/BRD/SAM/NIN/DRG

Scorpion Harness
DEF = ?? (sorry forgot the value O_O),HP +15, Ice - 20, Water +15, Dark +15, Accuracy +10, Evasion +10
Level 57 WAR/MNK/RDM/THF/PLD/DRK/BST/BRD/SAM/NIN/DRG

Haven't seen any in the AH for a longgg time... and it sells for roughly 9-10 million gil.

Brigandine
DEF 32, HP+10, DEX + 2, VIT +2
Level 45 WAR/RDM/THF/PLD/DRK/BST/BRD/RNG/SAM/NIN/DRG

+1 stats are: (for the low price of 700k - 1 million gil)

DEF 33, STR +1, DEX +3, VIT +3, AGI +1, MND +1, CHR +1

Byrnie (not the greatest, but thrown in for comparison)
DEF 46, HP +25, STR +3, DEX -3, VIt +3, AGI -3, INT -3, CHR -3, Attack +20
Level 60 WAR/PLD/DRK/BST/SAM/NIN

+1 stats are:

DEF 47, HP +30, STR +5, DEX -3, VIT +5, AGI -3, INT -3, MND -3, CHR -3, Attack +25.

Carapace Breastplate
DEF 44, Water +19
Latent Effect: Attack +12 DEF +44

Level 61 WAR/MNK/RDM/THF/DRK/BST/BRD/RNG/SAM/DRG

Your welcome to find some uber jerkins/scale mail that DRGs can wear late game to compare to some of this stuff posted above, but I could barely find any besides the Scorpion Harness/Tiger Jerkin that were any good for attacking purposes. Add to the list if you can find anything else.

before you read my comments and -- attempt -- to correct me. Know that the person making this statment is quite under 60. I made that statment to imply a smart dragoon does care about armor.. But since nothing before AF really is worth the extra effort to get (except Brig.. which i mentioned) I made my comments.
thx,plz read and think before posting. bye.

Awn.. Every class how a specific situation where they pwn. a monk would have killed that turtle 10 times faster with 100 fist. And with a thief, I can kill Garuda near as fast with Distortion Renkei... one of many renkei effects you can't create with your strong WS's.

Every class shines sometimes. Every class is weak someplace. Know your strengths and your weaknesses. however this is common sense.

[Drael]

Ok I want to start by saying Niexist is my idol lol

Now that thats done with... I really want to know how to make my drg outdamage my friend. Hes a DRK/ WAR at the same level as I am 25/12. I have yet to equip my 1st lance. I know its sad but still. What Items should i get to buff my drg and also is SAM really the best choice as a subjob? Right now the best stuff i got is probably my balance ring, Spike Necklace, and Battle Gloves. Any suggestions for upgrades? I know theres better stuff out there but I REALLY want like an insane dmg drg to outdamage my friend Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[Feday]

eh, really you are never going to have a higher max hit or a higher max hit ws.

His guillotine will do more damage (assuming all hits land and hes not stupid)

that said... get all the accuracy gear you can lay your hands on. Our damage comes from being able to spam pentathrust and jump away the hate. The accuracy helps to build the tp faster so you are able to accomplish this.

As for subs, id use warrior till 60, then switch to sam. Or you can use warrior to 75, it isnt going to be what breaks you.

MAIN thing is to understand the class and know how to use every skill to your advantage. That is how you will do your best damage etc.

[Xyse]

what if u can't use penta? dragoons don't close the gap to much there're pretty even till they get thier ws and when drk get guillo the're even again.........

[Niexist]

Penta thrust is good, but the damage isn't ultra spectacular, the power of penta is that it allows 60% TP return.

As far as improving your drg, through equipment, the best to do this is acc, acc, and acc, with some dex for good measure. Don't worry about buffing attack, and strength (though I do wear spike earrings +8 atk and there isn't anything else in that spot aside from assualt earrings which I'm getting soon) the best purchases for a dragoon are 2 sniper's ring's, and life belt of course. Throw in a peacock charm, and a merman's gorget and you aren't going to be missing very often.

Also remember outdmg'ing someone isn't just a matter of finding ways to make yourself hit for more, it's a matter of setting up yourself, and using tactics in parties to hit at the optimal time for the most damage, I see far to many melee who just can't do that.

[Drael]

OK so assuming I am insanely rich What would be godly accessories? im guessing sniper rings +1 and keep earrings focused on atk boosts. I saw an insane body armor called a dusk jerkin wich was dex 2 or something and then def 50 and additional effect Regen. That sounds insane to me to have regen always active but is this the best for a drg? Of course i Will probably get the dragon mail and the AF but what armor should i use for THE BEST possible stats i can get?

[Feday]

snipers
peacock charm
life belt
assault earings

not sure about armor, still looking over that myself

[Drael]

one assault earring and what in the other ear? cuz assault are rare i believe...

[macil2]

You can get a Tiger Sole necklace which has 2 def and +5 attack. You want dex/acc more but it seems like 5 attack is better than 3 dex and 3 str.