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    i lvl my blm to lvl 40 in this game and realized how crappy this class is due to many factors,

    1. the cost of spells is retarded, i cant go from lvl 40-45 in one night because i have to get spells and each lvl spells cost 20k+ and alot of the spells i am forced to buy from the man in seblina.

    2. spell damage is really low, most of the time you cant even get 3:1 dmg/mp ratio, and its slap in the face to watch a thf do 600dmg that is lower lvl then you and he dint spend 60k on stonega II.

    3. why pay 30k for a spell when its gonna be outdated in 5 lvls, and keep on spending money on spells that eventually your not gonna use, and you cant even sell it back like equiment.

    4. nothing like getting your ass kicked by monster that is "not worth while", cant even solo.

    5. i love when i cast spells like fire II and do a whopping 20 dmg!! woooo

    6. seems like everyone realized how useless a blm is when you can have another sneak attcker in the group. takes forever to get partys.

    7. how crappy looking their af is.

  • #2
    like ninja and ranger mages arent a cheap job to play -_-
    i got lots of gil but i dont feel like payin for ninjutsu when i can quest for it but have crappy fame n too lazy for questts ^^

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    • #3
      Most classes require money... DRG/DRK/THF got it easy but if you are a WAR or a PLD and want to tank you MUST have the best armor almost every 4 levels which can really be a pain.. NIN / RNG self explanatory.. don't even think about saying BLM is worse than RDM for spells.. Dispel, Refresh anyone?

      Meh, I could go on. If you aren't having fun with the job start a new one.

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      • #4
        sure they need new armor but they can sell their old ones back for money... i can sell my old spells that i dont use i sure as hell wont be bitchin. and refresh is about 30k on server not ot bad dispel is about 70k, not bad either considering you will use both spells for ever but spells such as stonega II is useless after i get stonega III......

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        • #5
          who told you to get stonga2....
          it's a rare spell that most black mages dont' have , and who told you to get 40-45 in 1 night? how much exp is it? 30k in total probably? gee... thats only 3/4 of a level at 71!
          how can 20k a spell be expansive ~.~ whie whm has shit like raise3 to buy later, and... erase!
          omfgbbq ;3

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          • #6
            if you think about it who said to get fire II, whos to say what spells is not need, i mean i had tractor spells for 2 weeks before i first even have to use. and lvl 40-45 is the place that my party is going on at, its hard for me to get a party in the frist place so i ususally party with the same people but now since they are higher lvl i wont be able to party with them anymore then i have to wait around for hours for other partys... oh yea erase is a spell that you can get, if i can get blizzard II or spells like that instead of buying it i wont be bitchin much, and erase is another spell that will never go outofdate because their is no erase II yet, and for raise 3 that is a lvl 70+ spell i belive, around lvl 70 i can get money alot faster then a lvl 40 BLM and raise 3 is a drop spell.

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            • #7
              1. the cost of spells is retarded, i cant go from lvl 40-45 in one night because i have to get spells and each lvl spells cost 20k+ and alot of the spells i am forced to buy from the man in seblina.

              You know...there's other things in this game to do but lvl. I know most powergammers only want to max out there lvl asap and then camp something for months on end...but how about doing something else? You can synth, you can fish, you can quest. I'm lvl 34 and i have every blm spell up to lvl 40, i have JSE armor (that i purchased, not quested for.) and everything else i need. You know how? Stop lvling for a few days and do something to earn money. It's easy.

              2. spell damage is really low, most of the time you cant even get 3:1 dmg/mp ratio, and its slap in the face to watch a thf do 600dmg that is lower lvl then you and he dint spend 60k on stonega II.

              Sure the dmg a thief does is impressive with viper bite, sneak attack and trick attack...no arguments there, but they're not constantly dishing out that damage. It has a cooldown timer. While we, on the other hand, will constantly dish out damage by chaining spell after spell after spell. If your spells are being resisted a lot, try hitting the monster up with shock early on, it will increase the chance your spells land properly. And this of this, when pvp comes out....who do you think will dominate? the thief or the blm who "Ele seal+sleep....flare." Blm's will dominate pvp, so don't despair. We still deal the most dmg per fight, count it all up.

              3. why pay 30k for a spell when its gonna be outdated in 5 lvls, and keep on spending money on spells that eventually your not gonna use, and you cant even sell it back like equiment.

              You don't need to get every spell in the game. Just get what you really need. The Area Effect nukes aren't a "must". Concentrate on your single mob hitting offensive spells, first and foremost. And spells don't get outdated in 5 lvl's. Bullshit. I still use Thunder, Blizzard and Fire regularly even thought i have stone II, water II and aero II. Even when you have the II version of the first, you'll still use the I versions at times. Keep chaining your big nukes and you'll A)Be out of mp after every fight causing a lot of downtime, B)Get perma hate and be killed. Learn to juggle your spells.

              4. nothing like getting your ass kicked by monster that is "not worth while", cant even solo.

              Agreed. But most other classes have that same problem. We're not an exception to the rule. And sure, you 'could' take a weak monster if you really want to do. Juggle spells to keep it away. But no point, why would you want to solo anyway?

              5. i love when i cast spells like fire II and do a whopping 20 dmg!! woooo

              Again, INC TOUGH monsters resistances are very very high. I get the same problem. And it it very annoying to spend 60mp for a spell to do 20dmg. Every monster resists certain elements and is weak against others. Fire II may be your latest spell, but guess what, if the monsters resistant to fire it won't take much damage. Learn monster weaknesses. Use Shock to lower enemy MND, i find spells land 20% more successfull.

              6. seems like everyone realized how useless a blm is when you can have another sneak attcker in the group. takes forever to get partys.

              I hate to say this, but you might not be a good blm if people are choosing a thief over you. I play my blm very well and have no problem getting invites from people who have even partied with me once. I'm not looking to insult you, but if a thief, by the end of 1 fight, outdamaged you...you're doing something wrong. They do there big combo's and that's it. You keep doing dmg throughout the fight and in the end will do more. Plus any party worth it's salt will want a blm with them for "magic bursts".

              7. how crappy looking their af is.

              Agreed. I wanted the old blue robe and straw hat...but whatever. Ours isn't the worst, look at bard...look at warrior....ugh.

              If you're that unhappy playing blm, play something else. But don't give new players the impression that blm's suck. In pvp we will be kings among sheep. Properly played a blm will do more dmg then most of the party members combined. Escape spell is invaluable at times. Blm's have a lot going for them.

              Sure...the sword...the shield and the heavy armor looks nice. But what is that compared to commanding the elemental forces of the world...including being the lord of light and darkness. Come on people...every great villain has always been a mage. ^^
              AF Gear - DONE
              Rank: 6
              Ice Staff?: "Oh Yes"!

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              • #8
                JSE=RSE... ~_~
                AF Gear - DONE
                Rank: 6
                Ice Staff?: "Oh Yes"!

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                • #9
                  1. the cost of spells is retarded, i cant go from lvl 40-45 in one night because i have to get spells and each lvl spells cost 20k+ and alot of the spells i am forced to buy from the man in seblina.

                  You know...there's other things in this game to do but lvl. I know most powergammers only want to max out there lvl asap and then camp something for months on end...but how about doing something else? You can synth, you can fish, you can quest. I'm lvl 34 and i have every blm spell up to lvl 40, i have JSE armor (that i purchased, not quested for.) and everything else i need. You know how? Stop lvling for a few days and do something to earn money. It's easy.

                  well frist off everything you said cost money, second theirs no point to lvling so slow. second if how do you get money? by killing stuff right? well since i am a blm i am a poor soloer and i need to get high lvl to solo stuff normal done by other class at lower lvl.

                  2. spell damage is really low, most of the time you cant even get 3:1 dmg/mp ratio, and its slap in the face to watch a thf do 600dmg that is lower lvl then you and he dint spend 60k on stonega II.

                  Sure the dmg a thief does is impressive with viper bite, sneak attack and trick attack...no arguments there, but they're not constantly dishing out that damage. It has a cooldown timer. While we, on the other hand, will constantly dish out damage by chaining spell after spell after spell. If your spells are being resisted a lot, try hitting the monster up with shock early on, it will increase the chance your spells land properly. And this of this, when pvp comes out....who do you think will dominate? the thief or the blm who "Ele seal+sleep....flare." Blm's will dominate pvp, so don't despair. We still deal the most dmg per fight, count it all up.

                  accualy i do shock even tho i dosent matter to much IT monster is a IT monster. thfs and do about 600 every other fight or even more during a long fight, i belive blm will be very good at pvpin, but not everyone that makes blm is out to pvp.

                  3. why pay 30k for a spell when its gonna be outdated in 5 lvls, and keep on spending money on spells that eventually your not gonna use, and you cant even sell it back like equiment.

                  You don't need to get every spell in the game. Just get what you really need. The Area Effect nukes aren't a "must". Concentrate on your single mob hitting offensive spells, first and foremost. And spells don't get outdated in 5 lvl's. Bullshit. I still use Thunder, Blizzard and Fire regularly even thought i have stone II, water II and aero II. Even when you have the II version of the first, you'll still use the I versions at times. Keep chaining your big nukes and you'll A)Be out of mp after every fight causing a lot of downtime, B)Get perma hate and be killed. Learn to juggle your spells.

                  yea think about the 3:1 raito i was saying, why would i want fire II spells when still i cant pass the 3:1 dmg ratio, kinda pointless when all your spells still do 3:1 if your lucky, so pretty much when you cast fire II its about the same dmg as if you would cast fire I 3 times but the dmg is still gonna be about the same. when is the last time you use bio I when you got bio II? when is the last time you use Aero or Water? when are you going to use sleep when you have sleepII? i can understand spells such as Aspir or Drain costing 30k because their is no spells to take their place. but for blizzard II for 30k is retarded because i am not going to use this spell when i have blizzard III. and most of if your thf in the group knows what he is doing, you have no problem of getting to much hate, yokodama transfer the hate 600 points of dmg they did to the tank so sweat their.


                  4. nothing like getting your ass kicked by monster that is "not worth while", cant even solo.

                  Agreed. But most other classes have that same problem. We're not an exception to the rule. And sure, you 'could' take a weak monster if you really want to do. Juggle spells to keep it away. But no point, why would you want to solo anyway?

                  do you have any better idea of making money?

                  5. i love when i cast spells like fire II and do a whopping 20 dmg!! woooo

                  Again, INC TOUGH monsters resistances are very very high. I get the same problem. And it it very annoying to spend 60mp for a spell to do 20dmg. Every monster resists certain elements and is weak against others. Fire II may be your latest spell, but guess what, if the monsters resistant to fire it won't take much damage. Learn monster weaknesses. Use Shock to lower enemy MND, i find spells land 20% more successfull.

                  if you are fighting tough monsters yea shock will matter a bit, if your fighting IT monsters like all goups do then shock dont even matter that much, ever noitced when you cast Bio II they still do exactly the same amount of Dmg even tho it is i weaken its attck...
                  debuffs are useless period


                  6. seems like everyone realized how useless a blm is when you can have another sneak attcker in the group. takes forever to get partys.

                  I hate to say this, but you might not be a good blm if people are choosing a thief over you. I play my blm very well and have no problem getting invites from people who have even partied with me once. I'm not looking to insult you, but if a thief, by the end of 1 fight, outdamaged you...you're doing something wrong. They do there big combo's and that's it. You keep doing dmg throughout the fight and in the end will do more. Plus any party worth it's salt will want a blm with them for "magic bursts".

                  thfs yokodama cant be resist, my fire II can, ever noitce why theirs always a thf in the party? if iwas making a party i would leave blm out, a rdm can easily take over a blm's job because of the 3:1 dmg ratio so what if they dont have fire II they can just cast fire 3 times.... hate to say it but blm are gonna be useless out side of pvp.

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                  • #10
                    yea the reason why i say their af sucks because i hear alot of people say " how come i havent seen any blm af" probly because they look like plain clothes, nothing speical about it, drg is all purple, you can tell they are in af from a mile away, same with whm rdm war, monk, bst, thf, ect but blm looks plain as gray..

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                    • #11
                      I have nothing to commit on expect...Yes the blackmage AF is very boring in my opinion, it doesn't look like AF.
                      ANYWAY BIG BEN THINK LIKE THIS ITS LIKE HEY GUYS WHY BE RACIST?? RACISM HURTS EVERYBODY ON INSIDE MAKE BIG BEN SADFACE ITS ALL ABOUT SKILLS CUZ WHEN BIG BEN HAD TO WORK ON FARM AS CHILD BEN HAD TO MAKE FARMING PT MADE OF ASIAN MAN BLACK MAN(THATS ME) MEXICAN MAN CHECHOSLOVAKIAN MAN AND IT WAS BEST FARMING PT EVER CAUSE ALL MEN HAD HQ SHOVELS AND TRACTORS AND KNOW HOW TO PLAY SO FARMING WAS QUITE GOOD

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                      • #12
                        hey, the black mage af armor is gay, we know that, the straw hat and black cloak should be in there, but hey, it's all s-e's fault, we can't do anything about it, get over it, and why put down black mages? they can do some serious damage if you play your cards right, hit them with what they're weak against, use blind alot and bind occasionally, you're not a one man party, go conquest or something
                        I am the Alpha and the Omega. I am the beggining and the end. I am the life of the dead, and the death of life. I come and go as i please. You cannot see me, yet i see you. I am the shadow in the night. I am the breeze on the wind. I am everywhere.


                        *wizard*

                        the famed master of black magic.

                        "efficient"; funny-looking; intelligent

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                        Blm-27 | Whm-10 | Rdm-1 | Thf-1 | War- 1 | Mnk - 5
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                        Current Undertaking: Trying to level

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                        • #13
                          i am level 72 and i don't remember i can get money easy D;///
                          it's always tough to get money in game, never easy, either luck or really hard work. black mage is seriously not that expansive and definitly doable with out much money farming at lower level
                          untill you get to place where you want rse belts serket rings +4 int rings astral rings black cloak fucked up priced level 4 spells, that's where money get tight.... but it's still doable
                          omfgbbq ;3

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                          • #14
                            speaking of spell costs, i just bought all my spells from 52-61, save quake and flare for 20-30k total.

                            my server's Ragnarok, btw.

                            sitting in my safe: -

                            Tornado, level 52
                            Aero III, level 59
                            Water III, level 55
                            Thunder III, level 66
                            Firaga II, level 53
                            Blizzaga II, level 57
                            Thundaga II, level 61
                            Flood, level 58
                            Burst, level 56
                            Andry

                            BLM 75 /-/ WHM 38 /-/ RDM 37
                            BST 10
                            San d'Oria Rank 10
                            Zilart M16
                            Not NA, not JP, not an importer. What am I? :confused:

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                            • #15
                              im 66 blm why the hell you using stonega2 it is shit. I still dont have half the ga spells and Im not poor. Biggest thing is know what weaknesses are and do the proper weakenings to help that. Normally i dont bother reply to anyones posts bc i see people saying the most incorrect advice and listening to it. But then i notice the NAs are getting high up and I dont wanna die in a pt with any. ga spells really arent very necessary maybe to help you farm if anything other than that not safe. 1> aggro nearby crap 2>adds some extra damage but if you check the mp cost compared to single version all it does is slow down your chains.
                              first weakening do mnd down helps whms out with their spells, then agi down blind and bio at least. bind isnt really needed unless you solo or your party needs to run. unless your fighters suck. also blm spells are can be expensive but get a couple low lvl ga spells and link 20 orcs together low lvl of course and kill away easy money. also ancients you will probably never use unless you wanna die or probably going to kill maat so if you really hurting for money at those lvl skip for a bit if you want

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