Who Cares?!

[FFXITsukasa]

I am wondering if anyone else out there is like me. You wanna be a job thats fun rather than "Effective" but everyone chews you out cause its the the best that class can do. I often hear "Black Mage/ Summoners suck." Who else is like me and doesn't care. I dont know about anyone else but I just want the game to have fun not be lectured.

[FrostPhoenix]

Yeah, I completly agree with you. I'm going to be BLK/SMN too because I've always loved those summons and black magic. To bad Phoenix isn't in the game... Oh well, maybe he'll get in in another expansion.

[Reneir]

Well, i'm not obsessed with being the greatest ever, but i don't wanna die constantly either...

But yeah i agree with you guys.. hey by the time you can get summoner you're level 20 or 30 or so anyway right? so you're big enough to fend for yourself, more or less....
...or at least find some big strong Galka to stand in front of you while you wreck havok with your awesome magic, right? tee hee hee

[MassaJJ]

Ye personally I hate these "Don't be THIS CLASS because it sucks and your going to suck." Maybe people want to be this class for a reason... Isn't it true that jobs in all other mmorpgs get changed around to balance? I say play what you think is going to be fun not based on what others tell you is good at level 70, level 70 isn't going to be the level cap forever and you might realize that the sub class you chose isn't such a bad choice after all.... The only thing I don't want to see when I join the game is the same friggin job combinations for everyone.

[Reneir]

Valid point, but perhaps those who proclaim suckage are merely trying to save you a world of torment from creating say, a tarutaru fighter... granted it's possible to work but there's alot more blood and sweat needed to get a reasonable return... by reasonable return, i mean not dying constantly. It is possible that the suck-sayers are in thier own way trying to be nice.
On the other hand, the more capable and hard-hitting players there are out there, the better it is for all of us; higher economy, more trade, stronger allies... keeping the cities safe from roving monsters, saving the world, blah blah blah.

Personally, i intend on being powerful as all get-out, but not by min/maxing... otherwise i'd be a Tarutaru instead of a Hume... But if you guys want to get really into having fun without a care for survival, go make a Galka BLM... I'd find it amusing to see...

[zywack]

I agree with Reneir. No one is forcing you to use the "good" combo, and of course you should play what is the most fun in your mind.

However, what you need to keep in mind is that this is a group-based game. To get far, you need to group (or be a beastmaster). And groups, when they are out leveling, they want to level as fast as possible. This mean that they want the best team they can get.

If you don't fall under a good combo, you will be less helpful for the group, so a party leader will usually take other people than you in order to have the fastest killing group.

So what everyone say is suggestions, no more, no less. It's always your choice, but as with any choice, it is useful to know the consequences of it.

[tomc1988t]

be what u wanna be and what makes u happy..but be ready to wait a long time for group or to make ur own...because u wont get chosen by many just doing what makes u happy...

appearently i am a cookie cutter character...elvaan DRK/MNK or elaan DRK/WAR... but i wanted to be this before i ever knew it was best....ever since i saw a friend in beta owning NM's with me and he even provoked the whole battle and stayed above 50% hp the whole time.....i saw how much he owned so i was like..shit..imma be like him


so to sum it all up...i going cookie cutter *sigh* but everyone has their own preferances and oppinions...g'luck to you all


Reign

[FFXITsukasa]

Well thank god there are others like me! Even if your character is hard to level and make work that makes it all the more fun. Wood Elf rogues are a pain to level and get group but I did it pretty well. And it was so fun because I got groups by showing that I could solo in difficult areas with little problems. You gain the respect of other players that way too. I think. Who cares if your character sucks. As long as you have fun doing it.

[Ragura]

I'm also not concerned about what people are going to think of my wacky job combinations. I'll be going WHM/SMN for my first character and NIN/THF for my second. Having said that, I don't care if I don't get into powerlevel groups, I just want to have fun, not reach the limit within 1 week.

[FFXITsukasa]

*Huggles Ragura* Thats just how I think. I mean why get to the level cap within a few weeks. It just screams at me "BORING!"

[Hao]

Its very important to play as what you want, I had a run in with this dilemma a while ago also. The theory I came up with is that there is no bad Job combination, there are just some that are more specialized. Think about the terms "Main Job" and "Support Job." Your main job defines mainly how you will play in my opinion. This means a Warrior, no matter what his support is, will always be atleast a Warrior. People think that somehow, if you use Warrior/White Mage that you somehow become something less than a Warrior.

However, I also learned that even though you may want this unique/fun job combination, you must also learn how to play as and utilize all your abilities. Some job combinations it comes more naturally to, like Paladin/Warrior for Taunt. Just learn how to make the best of your abilities and don't overstep your limits by too much and you should be able to make it work!

[Kirara]

you guys make me laugh
with out having the game, you are already thinking about "so much"
don't say "i just wanna have fun", fun fun fun, do you know what fun is in this game? you know anything to expect? do you think reading these board will give you even some of the slightest idea of how this game works?

this is a game also an society, just like the regular one you live in, this game has unspoken rules. as an member of the player that lives in the game you are expect to bind to those rules just as you bind to laws in real life. this is not some place you just come and have "fun" and do whatever

[aznsky]

i totally agree it really doesn'y matter what you are and anyways If you a BLM/SUM who cares you guys do hella damage and with bards and other people with grouping with you (and thats almost the whole point in playing the game is grouping).

[Scyrab]

Don't take this the wrong way Kirara - I have nothing against you or your opinion but personally..

I think thats a load of BS.

I respect your opinion but that is not the way I see things at all. That is just how some people see things. The point of a sub job is to "compliment" your Main Job. Like someone(I think it was Hao) said above, no matter what your sub job is you will still be your Main job. If you chose a Paladin/Dark Mage that does not mean you are no longer a paladin. You are more paladin then you are anything else.

I refuse to believe that having a sub job such as --/White mage will save a group. Sure it may help but if you have a White Mage it is HIS/HER job to take care of the healing - you are just there for backup.

If a person chose a white mage as their main job it was because they WANTED to be a White Mage. They wanted to support, they wanted to heal, they wanted to be able to do all the things White Mages can do. If someone chooses something as their main job it is because it is what they want to do. The sub job is just there to compliment your Main Job.

If you want to be a XXX/XXX then go ahead, but nothing is stopping you from being any other thing. The whole point of the job system was for customization. Haven't you realized that alot of this game is cooke-cutted for you? You can only choose so many character faces for your race/gender, all the Artifact armor looks the same for that specific class, and many of the items look the similar. The job system was a way for people to differentiate themselves from one another.

I agree - not all classes will work. A Black Mage/Warrior won't do much at all because they kind of are total opposites from eachother.

Some jobs work better together then others, that does not mean you have no hopes at getting a group. ANYONE can get a group- no matter what you are. It is more important that you are a good player then you have a good class. In some cases a Black Mage/White Mage that KNOWS what he/she is doing, and KNOWS how to heal, and pays attention is 100 times better then a White Mage/--- who sucks at healing.

I've said this once before, and I will say it again, When I played EQ, back during the Kunark era, Warriors were by far the best tanks in the game- then you had Paladins(which I was)- at the time paladins couldn't heal well, couldn't tank well, and had crap for damage output. To put it simple paladins SUCKED. Did I get groups? Of course I did. Why would a group wait for a warrior to pop out looking for a group when they had someone who could do the job almost just as well? They didn't. They took their first opportunity.

Phew- okay I'm done ranting. Kiarara don't take that the wrong way, I totally respect you and didn't mean any disrespect - this is just the way I feel. It is *my* opinion just like you have yours. So please, no hard feelings

I have played A LOT of MMORPGs - EQ, DAOC, SWG, IRO, UO, EQOA, etc. I know how these games work so you can't say I'm talking with no knowledge. When the game goes live I can almost guarantee to you that some things will change from the way they were set by the Japanese and beta,etc.


Americans may not care wether their groups have a perfect setup without the most powerful class combinations that they can have. Who is to say that they may not settle for whatever they can get at the time. If your group needed a Black Mage..would you honostly accept them in your group because they do not have White Mage as a subjob? If you can honostly say that you wouldn't take them in then I think you are just being stubborn..

Anyway..remember this is based on my experiences and my opinions. Please respect that. Have a great night!

[pcidll]

Originally posted by Kirara
you guys make me laugh
with out having the game, you are already thinking about "so much"
don't say "i just wanna have fun", fun fun fun, do you know what fun is in this game? you know anything to expect? do you think reading these board will give you even some of the slightest idea of how this game works?

this is a game also an society, just like the regular one you live in, this game has unspoken rules. as an member of the player that lives in the game you are expect to bind to those rules just as you bind to laws in real life. this is not some place you just come and have "fun" and do whatever

You make me laugh. The whole point of games is to have fun.