CoP, Where's all the new equipment?

[Zempten]

You do realize that their are other items in the game besides ones that can be sold on the AH?

Hornetneedle comes in mind as well as some of the katana's

[tazirai]

Originally posted by SephirothYuyX
I agree fully.

gonna co-sign you

[CoalChamber]

I too am very dissapointed about the lack of new items and equipment. I wanted to have more ways to customize my character. And everyone was psyched because we were all expecting customizable chocobos. But I'm still tottaly exstatic about the new areas and missions and can't wait to get my CoP :D

[Blood Red Poet]

People are so blind :D. If you don't give a crap about the story why are you even playing FFXI at all? FFXI has the best story to EVER be on a online game... well because it is a FF :D. You can enjoy the story together with friends as you find out the Shadow Lord is coming back! I am so freakin happy I didn't know who the Shadow Lord was until I did Mission 5-2. Too bad I already knew about the Zilart .... but the badass cutscene makes up for it.

"OMFG! This story is BORiNGS!"

Stop reading the spoilers? kthnx >.>;

Also anyone else notice only like 1% out of people who actually hit cap want it raised. How bout you actually get to 75 before you start complaining about it? :D Don't want to flame/sound rude... but I mean... you give me the impression the only reason you play this game is to drool over the people with UBER gear and be like them. Truth is, you can't... you know why? Because they don't idolize anyone... they have fun. Try it :D.

(Level 30 is just as fun as level 60... if you have a lot of friends ^^... in my case I seem to have hundreds >.> awkward when I say "Did I tell you I love you? no? Did I party with you? no? Are you or was in one of my LSes? no? Did I help me shout about Ibanez stealing aritomo's Dark Staff? bingo! now I remember you )

[Teknoman]

well one thing is the expansion hasnt even been out that long.
Seriously give it some time. Not all the rise of zilart items have been discovered yet, let alone NMs and NM drops. No one anywhere on any server is going to discover ALL the new stuff in the expansion in the span of 1 or so weeks...

[Bigokk McGock]

I appreciate those boring quests, sorry man. I appreciate that "useless" gear. I'm not playing this mafah for the endgame - if I wanted to play a game for endgame I'd be playing EQ or drooling over WoW.

I'm glad to hear that you're happy with the expansion because you don't care about end-game, but what about those 80% of us who do care?

I left EQ after 4 years because of the "flag" system...to come to a game that is a "flag" based system... I can't win for losing.

I was in an end-game guild. Sorry, I am addicted to uber equipment, Dynamis armor reminds me of Velious armor...I'm still waiting for the FFXI equivalent of VT armor. At least something of the same caliber, please?

I haven't had the inspiration to grind ever since I aquired Haubergeon at 59. For some people, MMORPGS need carrots hanging in front of you to keep you on the xp grind-mill. I ate the carrot and am looking for another one. EQ was very good at that.

Concerning the comments about the quests: Not everyone plays for the quests (aka flags). Most likely I'll be forced to quest to have access to more areas of the game, I can deal with that though.

Yes, the story is good but not all of us have the time or friends to get rank 10 plus do Z1-16 plus C1-999 or whatever. Those of us in small LS can't do the 18 man missions (and good luck standing in jueno for hours spamming for members). I prefer a small, tightly knit LS of people who help eachother out, rather than a large LS half full of level 60+ newbs, "d00dz0rz" and "moody drama queens".

In EQ, being in an uber guild is like a job, you show up on time x days a week from yPM-zAM and you have an equal chance as your peers to aquire "phat lewt".

Sorry, this wasn't meant to be a rant but I might as well get another 8 warning points while I'm at it. I am officially calling CoP a "waste of oxygen"...go ahead, give me the points ; ;

PS. /random is the dumbest idea ever. How they hell did that newb trend get started in FFXI end-game? Only newb guilds did it in EQ, every end-game guild uses a fair "DKP" (dragon kill points) system to divide the loot.

[ENWEH]

You were in an "end-game guild" and then left because of quests, but now you want a "tight-knit" linkshell that helps each other out? Wow, sounds like you went from Save-The-Whales to Nuke-Iraq in the span of 5 years playing MMORPGs.

Also, if you were able to consistantly show up for raids in EQ then you can consistantly show up for the nine hours it takes to do ZM1-13 and then the next 3 hours it takes to do ZM14-16. And rank 10 takes a maximum of 2 weeks to achieve, if you log at most 2 hours a day doing missions.

[tazirai]

Originally posted by Bigokk McGock
I'm glad to hear that you're happy with the expansion because you don't care about end-game, but what about those 80% of us who do care?

i seriously doubt 80% of the people are here for endgame when only a small percent actually get 75.

I could care less abotu endgame since I dont want FFX I to end.
Most JP players I know like loot and story but dont spend hours upon hours doing HNMs .
They evenly divide it. I knwo alot of NA's like that also.
The so called 80% that you speak of tend to leave after they get the phat lewt.
But to each his own, personally for me, I only play for story and normal NMs and item drops.
I could care less about the "BEST" since many consider me better than the average player on FFXI.
I just want to take part in a great story.
But some people want to capitalize on the drops. i dont fault them for it. I do think though that Lewt guys tend to make other players feel bad about not having the best gear.
That needs to stop. Be the best because you wat to not because someone thinks you should be just like them.

[Thoronas]

Does anyone even know what the new nm and hnm added in the expansion are yet? I would think those would make people like Bigokk salivate since its a chance for more uber mil+ gear.

I think it's a bit early to call CoP "a waste of oxygen". If after a month or two there isn't some new hnm that hnmls guilds bitch and whine about then maybe you could call CoP a waste. :angel:

I'm kinda pleased with what I've heard about CoP for the simple fact that unlike Zilaart I don't need to be lvl 60 to unlock the missions. Something for the more recreational players to experience is a good thing.

[Macht]

Looking at the FFXI Census and were the majority of players pile up at it usually key points were some of the more favored quests are at. Lv. 5, 10, 18, 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 55, 60, 65, 70.

The players actually at lv. 75 was something like 8% of all the players. You'd think if people are really that engrossed to be the best and just only do the end-game that percent would be higher.

I myself have been enjoying lv. 54 I know I'm 1 level away from Sidewider and I would love to have it but I'm enjoying savoring the moments just before that which is probably why I've been lv. 54 for something like 2 or 3 months now >.>

[tnt118]

Originally posted by kevinsal
An expansion without a new job or race was the biggest dissapointment for me. Let alone the same freaking cap.

Even though I hate EQ, at least they get decent Expansions.

While I understand, and to some extent agree, with this post, I hope everyone won't forget all the content that's been released *outside* offical expansions.

All nation missions ranks 7-10. 6 Dynamis zones. Equipments. Nation quests. Other items. The majority of the BCNM fights. I'm sure theres much more I don't recall off the top of my head, either.

I too was a little disappointed that CoP didn't feel like an "overhaul" of the game, but at the same time, I know the game will continue to expand, and stuff added in, that will make me want to continue to play. It just won't all be released in an offical expansion.

Judging from the missions screens I've seen so far, the CoP missions look more than worth the price of the game. I still feel that Zilart rivialed in size, scope, and pride in completion many of the stand-alone FF games. I expect CoP to top that easily.

[Bigokk McGock]

You were in an "end-game guild" and then left because of quests, but now you want a "tight-knit" linkshell that helps each other out? Wow, sounds like you went from Save-The-Whales to Nuke-Iraq in the span of 5 years playing MMORPGs.

Also, if you were able to consistantly show up for raids in EQ then you can consistantly show up for the nine hours it takes to do ZM1-13 and then the next 3 hours it takes to do ZM14-16. And rank 10 takes a maximum of 2 weeks to achieve, if you log at most 2 hours a day doing missions.

If this were baseball, you would have struck out, been benched AND sent to the minors all in one game ; ;

I hardly call back-flagging "questing". Anyone who has played EQ can attest to the "hug-a-cactus" joy known back-flagging.

Seriously, complete Rank 1-10, 80 times, then you will know what I've been through. I'm not even joking in the least.

As for a liking tight-knit LS of 8ish people (meaning 8 people on at once is like WOW!) = Nuking Iraq??...I think you missed your flight to the moon because that comment because it was WAY out there.

As for not having the time questing in FFXI that I had in EQ?
People's lives change. People graduate, people get jobs, people get married, people have children. Games < Life. You'll learn about it someday hopefully, life is a wonderful thing if you don't spend all of it at your keyboard^^.

Your time is a bit skewed on the quests though...try 3 hours of spamming and /tells to get enough people to start the quest, an hour to get to the area, another hour to wait for people who forgot food/gear/die/get lost/have to leave because of an unexpected issue, etc. After about 5 hours, a mission completed, yay!

These are the things those of you in large LS don't have to worry about. Congratulations, you win at FFXI?

[Alucath]

Originally posted by Bigokk McGock
If this were baseball, you would have struck out, been benched AND sent to the minors all in one game ; ;

I hardly call back-flagging "questing". Anyone who has played EQ can attest to the "hug-a-cactus" joy known back-flagging.

Seriously, complete Rank 1-10, 80 times, then you will know what I've been through. I'm not even joking in the least.

As for a liking tight-knit LS of 8ish people (meaning 8 people on at once is like WOW!) = Nuking Iraq??...I think you missed your flight to the moon because that comment because it was WAY out there.

As for not having the time questing in FFXI that I had in EQ?
People's lives change. People graduate, people get jobs, people get married, people have children. Games < Life. You'll learn about it someday hopefully, life is a wonderful thing if you don't spend all of it at your keyboard^^.

Your time is a bit skewed on the quests though...try 3 hours of spamming and /tells to get enough people to start the quest, an hour to get to the area, another hour to wait for people who forgot food/gear/die/get lost/have to leave because of an unexpected issue, etc. After about 5 hours, a mission completed, yay!

These are the things those of you in large LS don't have to worry about. Congratulations, you win at FFXI?

For someone who uses so many analogies, it seems odd you miss them when others use them. And for someone who started a rant thread on how bad CoP is, it's just lame to use "Games < Life" as an arguement to try and put down other people. You're the one who started the arguement. Almost as if this is a trolling thread in disguise >.<.

[Patchinko]

Rise of Zilart's only unique gear is all the Rare/Ex items that drop in the Zilart regions. That's the reason why most of the NMs in those areas drop Rare/Ex instead of simply Rare items.

Best guess is that most of the Promathia gear has yet to be implemented and will be put in with a future update that includes a lot of NMs that drop Rare/Ex after the kinks have been worked out of the regions.

I'm pretty sure there will be no sellable gear that is Promathia-only.

[Blood Red Poet]

And for someone who started a rant thread on how bad CoP is, it's just lame to use "Games < Life" as an arguement to try and put down other people. You're the one who started the arguement. Almost as if this is a trolling thread in disguise >.<.

My thoughts exactly lol...

If you want casul gaming, go play WoW . I heard that is what they are basing it on or whatever(sounds too 'weak' for my needs imo). Seriously tho, if you are complaining about a lackage of weapons/armors(which is not really true... since I mean... you dont know ANYTHING about it.. and a lot of JPNs only know little more than you) then you have not learned enough about this
game so you can turn back yet :D.

It has been said a billion times: no one has killed a single CoP HNM yet... hell... only a handful of NMs Id say... so WTF you talking about? What do you know, that I don't that will give you this crap.

Plus... if you play this game as a race... on day you will run out of a carrots... look back and say "Wow I missed so many things... why the hell did I just do that?".

Last... you sound kinda stupid saying "I WanTz L33t!" and "Life > Game" in the same freakin post >.>;.