What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

HOw can you tell what your latency is for lag?

Don't know, but keep in mind people mix up all kinds of 'lag' together. Most often, they just mean the game not performing well, so it's 'lagging'.

I think about 'lag' in three ways:

• Network latency:
  • How long does it take does the packet travel from user's machine to the server?
  • How long does it take the other way?
  
  
• "Server latency": time it takes from receiving a request from to finish executing it.
• "Client latency": time it takes from receiving info from server to complete acting on the info.

So, let's say let's say there are 50 other players near a player's character, all doing stuff. Server dutifully sends all that info to someone's ready-to-retire-yesterday computer, and the data get there fast. BUT, it takes the tired, old computer 10 seconds to finish digesting all that info and draw the screen.

That gives you 0.1 "frame per second" display rate, at best. That player would have what I call a "client latency" problem, but what's his complain?

"It's laggy."

Now, let's say a zone server is overloaded--too many people at location _____. The server is having a hard time keeping up, and is having trouble sending out "Here are the 50 people near you" message to the (implied) client request to update "Hey, what's around my character?"

Another user, with his $5000 desktop gaming monster, is displaying the game at a crisp 100+ frame per second. But, the sever is only sending updates about the stuff around him every 5 seconds. His complaint? Well, of course it would be:

"It's laggy."


In both cases, there were no problem caused by network latency--both were issues with computational load. But to the end user, it's all 'lag'.

[Mezlo]

Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

HOw can you tell what your latency is for lag?

[Firewind]

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Most of the people that say they are having lag are playing on machines that put out terrible FPS, or for some reason are playing at 30FPS.

[Malacite]

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I get ridiculous lag as well from time to time and I live in fucking Ottawa, practically next door to Montreal.


And aside from the bad job design (really dislike what they've done overall, having gotten higher up on most classes) right now the most disheartening thing of all is that it will take at the current rate of 300 tomes/week just shy of TWO YEARS to get a full set of AF 1.5 for all 9 jobs. That's just completely retarded, especially given that future content will have gear that eventually out classes it. It's a blatant, shitty stall tactic.

[Aeni]

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The game in general lately...

anyone else losing interest fast?

Nope, Just that they have had 2 maintenance alredy this week, and an emergency, which have disallowed me to enjoy the game (those were during my time) I play after 9pm, so I'm SOL.

And, also, I keep seeing a lot of players with lag issues. WHY? I'm here in the middle of the Pacific Ocean with 50ms latency, almost never any lag, and yet you got players who live within 500 miles of the data center in Quebec shedding massive tears. I can see EU players getting bad latency and lag spikes (All the more reason for SE to move the GOD DAMN EU PORTION OF THEIR DATACENTER TO LONDON OR PARIS) but US players complaining about that makes me highly suspect that their ISP, like Cumfast, are the culprits here. And no one, I mean NO ONE, wants to contact their ISPs for help. I wonder why...

[Firewind]

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Only FC member without a Relic so the only content I can do is Titan HM.

[DakAttack]

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Haven't logged in to complete AK run of the day for the past few days.

[Malacite]

Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

The game in general lately...

anyone else losing interest fast?

[Jarre]

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LAGG which for a tank is deadly difference to avoiding massive damage move and dying.

[Aeni]

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In AK group last night... MPK'd by two different healers who pulled a group, let us gain hate, and then disconnected. Who the fuck waits in the DF queue to do that? Only tanks get the insta-queue....

Morons who should have their accounts banned. And they probably won't care if they did get banned.

[Malacite]

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Yeah I had that happen in WP the other day with this moron PLD who kept trying to run through everything. Yes, you do need to stay mobile at points in that dungeon but this guy just ran through everything over & over without even stopping to flash. Then he'd die and get the rest of us killed.

[DakAttack]

Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

In AK group last night... MPK'd by two different healers who pulled a group, let us gain hate, and then disconnected. Who the fuck waits in the DF queue to do that? Only tanks get the insta-queue....

[Firewind]

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It also shows why cross server queueing needs to die in a fucking fire. If you get a genuine good group, and out of those 60+ attempts across the 15 group finder groups, 5 of the groups stick out as being geared and good, but were ruined by some idiot ragequitting or one idiot, usually a WHM, standing in stuff.

It always means that that promising group that was getting somewhere has to disband because of that one arsehole who is going to do the same thing after 15 mins anyway.

I actually have the stats noted down:

• 8 PLD Main Tanks under 5.4k HP (making Mountain Buster unsurvivable)
• 3 WAR Main Tanks under 7k HP (making Mountain Buster unsurvivable)
• 37 Undergeared DD (No primal weapon or gear to put them over 3.5k HP to make the Stomps in Phase 5 survivable)
• 35 First Deaths being the WHM not moving out of shit
• 15 wipes in total caused by Healers not cleansing someone that was broken out of the rock.
• 48 wipes caused by Healers not precasting
• Last one standing in 47 fights (Not counting wipes at the heart phase when more than one are standing or times where I was rocked and everyone ignored me)
• 8 deaths due to errors on my part
• 6 deaths caused by someone running at me during Plumes
• 1 Death caused by me forgetting to pause Steam Downloads
• 38 comments to the effect of "WTF I moved out of it!" by people that didn't move at all.
• 7 parties collapsing due to someone ragequitting after 1-2 wipes.
• 3 Fights, that's fights not parties, where we passed the Heart Phase
• 1 Fight where Heart Phase was passed without having to build the LB

[Malacite]

Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

News flash, the vast majority of gamers are trash.

[Firewind]

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61 attempts at the fight this week across 15 random parties ad only 3 so far have progressed past the heart phase and that was only because FC members queued with me to have a shot at a 3rd relic...

Been at Titan for 2 months now and it is literally the only content I can do since I need it to unlock Coil.