Somthing I have noticed about /BLM

[Kittyneko]

Re: Somthing I have noticed about /BLM

A bit off-topic; it seems to me that how longer this game exists, the more jobs are not getting party invites because of some reason.

[Murphie]

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Well, that happens with any MMO. As time goes by, parties develop more specific strategies. That focusing is bound to leave a few people out of the loop.

But I wouldn't say that there are really that many more jobs that don't get invites now than there used to be.

[Icemage]

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A bit off-topic; it seems to me that how longer this game exists, the more jobs are not getting party invites because of some reason.

Have to disagree with this.

I remember the days when no one would invite any DD aside from Thieves and Dragoons (because of yokodama and penta, respectively).

Or the days of fistburns in King Ranperre's Tomb, where if you weren't a Monk, Bard, White Mage, or Red Mage, you needn't apply.

Or the arrowburn parties in the Celestil Nexus, only there it was Rangers + Bards.

Or the BLM manaburn parties.

If anything, the current XP-worthy roster is noticeably more expansive than it used to be. It's only at the higher levels that things start breaking down, but there's now Campaign to fill in the gaps, so even less "efficient" jobs can still find something to do to gain XP while looking for a party.


Icemage

[Aksannyi]

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lol @ thinking you'll ever have a whm in the party with you. >.>

I leveled from 1-75 and I main healed (meaning no whm) less than a handful of times. I was adamant that I would not main heal and I got to 75 just fine.

[ItazuraNhomango]

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I'm the "I'll be flexible" RDM, enfeeble, refresh, haste, main heal, co-heal, co-nuke, whatever. I had WHMs in half of the parties to Lv.72 or so anyway; only at Lv.72-75 range did they disappear--but not completely.

I told one WHM in a Greater Colibri party that next time he invite me to the bird camp, he should bring his DD gear. (Figured he could do more damage on the front line than I can. heh.)

[Jei]

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Whm hammering the poor bird? : / wouldn't Rdm with joytoy do better damage?

[BurningPanther]

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Whm hammering the poor bird? : / wouldn't Rdm with joytoy do better damage?

Basically. Piercing weapons(fleuret, rapier, epeé, any dagger RDM can equip) > Colibri.

[Yellow Mage]

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(Figured he could do more damage on the front line than I can. heh.)

Not really: you got Daggers. And Arrows, technically, even from the back line. Oh, and if you're lucky enough to have a Joytoy . . .

I don't know how much the damage adjustment affects such a situation, but the point is you have Piercing. They have only Blunt.

Just 2 gil here.

EDIT: Jei and BP beat me.

[Jei]

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You don't need that much luck to get joytoy. You do, however, need some good friends.

[BurningPanther]

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EDIT: Jei and BP beat me.

Well, you thought to mention Archery, which I continually forget about(what with dismal skill, lack of Weapon Skills, and whatnot), and actually reminds me I should level it up sometime in the future.

I leveled from 1-75 and I main healed (meaning no whm) less than a handful of times. I was adamant that I would not main heal and I got to 75 just fine.

Keep in mind, folks like yourself and I made it to our 70s in the pre-ToAU era, a point in time when it really wasn't uncommon to see a RDM, WHM and BLM in the same party. I think eTicket was referring mostly to the exp trends today.

[Ameroth]

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You don't need that much luck to get joytoy apart from maybe fighting for claim. You do, however, need some good friends.

You actually don't need any luck at all to get a joytoy. But I won't disagree about the need for good friends.

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w for healing, but isn't that the damn WHM falt? Cant find one? Wait till you can find one, I am going to be /BLM because I like it better!

You might like it better, and it is, after all, you're choice what to sub; however it's the party leader's choice to replace you with a rdm that will sub whm if needed. There will be plenty of times when /blm is useful, and an equal amount (or more) of times when /whm is useful (or required).

You're not much use to a party if you're the only mage in the group and stuck with healing duty and you're focusing on nuking instead of healing, status curing, and refreshing. And believe you me, if you plan to play RDM past 41, you will find yourself as main heal in more than one party before 75 (unless you choose to leave the party, and again that's your choice).

[ItazuraNhomango]

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Oh, that was a party I tried DD RDM in, Joyeuse included. I wasn't impressed by my performance.

Granted, I have slightly better gear options now, but I was curious if the WHM can do better. Still am, actually, since WHM has higher base skill, Hexa Stike, and a decent selection of Haste gear. (Really should level dagger and get Opo-Opo Crown out of the way so I can unlock Evisceration or whatever that WS is called.)

Edit:

Not really: you got Daggers. And Arrows, technically, even from the back line. Oh, and if you're lucky enough to have a Joytoy . . .

I don't know how much the damage adjustment affects such a situation, but the point is you have Piercing. They have only Blunt.

Joyeuse is great for DoT, but base damage is quite low, so not so great for WS. Besides, for WS, it's counted as slashing.

I'd never bother to waste time shooting arrows at Colibri as a RDM. Well, maybe in a skill up party, but not in a merit party. ^_^;

[Kurb]

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If White Mages are not being used in parties, what are taking their place? I have heard people discuss having Red Mages and Paladins, are there any other jobs?

at high lvls depending on party set up a pld and red combo is feriece handy
I did this with 4 DD jobs. hate was tossed between all the DD's but cover and cure4 kept the red alive and all are refreshs meant are healing was minimal.I believe the RED was /WHM.But RED/BLM and BLM/RED work well in parties :D

[Jei]

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I wouldn't waste time shooting arrows in skill up PTs either xD Leveling up the actual Rng job is much easier and more fun.

For DD you'll want to use Rdm/nin holding dagger with high damage in main hand and use evisceration. Hold joytoy offhand for TP.

[ItazuraNhomango]

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Can't unlock Evisceration, yet, so lazy about skilling up Dagger. (Need to get Opo-Opo Crown quest out of the way.) Besides, Dual Wield really waters down Joyeuse's TP gain; I'd probably need a minimum of Blau Dolch to make the Dagger+Joyeuse combo worthwhile.

It'd be a pretty ridiculous investment for something ("DD" in merit party) I'd do once every three blue moons. Not that I didn't enjoy it, but I'm one of those perfectly happy to be in the back line RDM, and it's where I'm wanted 99% of the time anyway for merit party.