multi-hit ws nerf

[Izual]

"An issue regarding the accumulation of TP with weapon skills that consist of multiple strikes (Combo, Penta Thrust, etc.) will be corrected. "

I sincerely hope this isn't what I think it is, but I don't see what else it could be...it sounds like no more high tp return for multi-hits.

As much as it sucks for all current high-level melees, I feel even worse for the up-and-coming generation all looking forward to their big multi-hit weaponskills. Honestly, they wern't that great to begin with...now, they're gonna fucking blow.

[Kuai]

Thank the monks using 999 delay h2h weapons spamming asura fist all day

[MAK]

They might just be bringing it back to the way it use to be but chances are slim to none.

[Tidane]

Originally posted by Kuai
Thank the monks using 999 delay h2h weapons spamming asura fist all day

Heh...if they change it, they'll change it back...unless they make Multi-hit WS more powerful or something, because they only Multi that I've seen any good are H2H. Most often, Penta hits for 2 or so damage (lmao) and Guil, I have never seen on an XP mob.

[Synbios]

If Hexa's gonna get nerfed.. I'll have to level to 71 for Halo.. Nooooooooooooooooooooo... ; ;

[Deodorant]

Doesn't seem to affect me either way because, you know ... us rdm's use Fast Blade all the way to lvl 73 ... :sweat:

[FeralisCallidus]

No Spirits Within?

[DJplaeskool]

well, I've talked a couple people who have some pretty deep jp sources, and here's a new tenative multi-hit equation (not 100% definite):

old formula:
base TP (depending on weapon delay) x # of hits landed
example
Penta Thrust > 13 TP x 5 = 65 TP

change 1:
1 x base TP + 1 x # of hits landed
example
Penta Thrust > 1 x 13 + 1 x 5 = 18 TP

I really hope this isn't the case...
that's just too extreme a tp drop...
and for graple WS's we'll be walking away with, on average, under 15 TP per WS...even with musouashuraken...

change 2:
May use a steeper quadratic or exponentional equation to determine TP:delay ratio for multihits, instead of changing the multi-hit equation.
Example
Instead of getting 16 TP per hit for D999 knuckles, it's lowered to 8 or 9, still granting much tp for full hits, but preventing 無�阿修羅

Ashura > 16 x 8 = 128 TP > with successive 8 hits, 無�阿修羅
Ashura > 8 x 8 = 64 TP > Suffer with 999 delay to get the remaining TP

If any of these are the case, it may become a situation like /thf sub fuiuchi when they took it away from subs, but gave it back and changed the damage calculation 'cause it made it so worthless...

talk about...

[Lone Dragon]

I have an interesting theory....

A TP Cap.
Something to keep the total amount you can gain or the amount that can be gained in a single hit,
below a certain amount, say 20% (cut that in half fo H2H and AsF can only net 80%.)
DRKs and DRGs can keep their potentially high TP returns and no more brokeness.
That would screw over the Relic Knuckles + AsF thing.

[Zelld]

Originally posted by DJplaeskool
change 1:
1 x base TP + 1 x # of hits landed
example
Penta Thrust > 1 x 13 + 1 x 5 = 18 TP

I really hope this isn't the case...
that's just too extreme a tp drop...
and for graple WS's we'll be walking away with, on average, under 15 TP per WS...even with musouashuraken...

Just wanted to say, that according ot that formula...

1*13+1*5= 70

Unless you meant (1*13) + (1*5) ... in which case... I will shut up...

[ZQM]

Originally posted by Zelld


Just wanted to say, that according ot that formula...

1*13+1*5= 70

Unless you meant (1*13) + (1*5) ... in which case... I will shut up...

Multiplication before addition, so her equation is correct. Atleast I think so, it's been so many years since I've been in a math class dealing with basic equations.

[Kyoujin]

Yeah. Multiplication/Division first, then Addition/Subtraction. Left to Right.

[FeralisCallidus]

parenthesis and exponents before that. (roots are exponents)

[Tonkz]

"Just wanted to say, that according ot that formula...

1*13+1*5= 70

Unless you meant (1*13) + (1*5) ... in which case... I will shut up..."

ROFL that's too funny ...

[Shuketsu]

Why not skip the delay idea all together, and give set TP amounts to each weapon :sweat: I haven't played many classes aside from Dragoon, but.. set 1h Sword to 6 TP a swing, spear at 10, lance at 12, etc.. and if there are any weapons that have a delay far away from the norm, just give them a few TP more >_>