Galkas: What's the point?

[Griddlecake]

Elvaan's aren't even in the race for being the top dog at being a MNK. Theonly real competition that a Galka has for best MNK is a Mithra.

We have more Acc, the big reason why Elvaan's fall short in this category. We also have more VIT and INT. While you guys are wasting your money for Acc+ Equipment, I can go out and buy some counter/Strength up gear...

Don't challenge me on this one... Galkas make the better MNK

[Crug]

i have seen galkan discrimination first hand.
for some reason my linkshell has imposed a no galkan rule. oddly enough i am a elder member of the group =/
mostly becauls the leader of the ls (oddly enough a elvaan) says all galkans suck. when i question him about it he has no valid reason.
needless to say i have been shoping around for a new ls on pandemonium.

any way.

now i know i have not run in to the thick stuff with bst yet but as it is now i do good with it. 1 out of 6 times i will miss a charm on a em. i keep up on my +chr equip and i have no problem

[Ozymandis]

Originally posted by FeralisCallidus
Please exlpain to me how 7 more VIT makes Galka a ~Hands Down~ better PLD?

I never said it did.

And war is dependant mostly on DEX, VIT[to a lesser degree] and STR. HP is basically irrelevant, and Vitality is not as big of an issue as one may think (When you are comparing races that are within a stone's throw of each other in VIT).

HP is NOT irrelevant to tanking. If a high-offense enemy hits a crit + special, what then? There have been many fights where I as a Galka was in that situation and survived with 100 or less HP. Any other race would have been dead.

Edit: also, many mobs seem to have Double Attack. This is even more of a case for higher HP.

Elvaan have an edge in MP, CHR, and Mind. They have a small edge in STR, but Galka has more VIT over Elvaan than Elvaan has STR over Galka. Galka has the advantage in INT, DEX, AGI, and HP.


Either race is fine for melee, I don't think that's debatable. Galka has better across-the-board melee stats, so I think they're the best option as a melee. Which would make sense considering that they're the worst mages.

Also, Elvaan look effeminate. That's a big negative in being a melee


BTW, many Elvaan monks at the highest levels on Fairy wear +DEX stuff or ACC gear. Whereas most of the Humes, Mithra, and Galka go for STR up wherever they can. Might just be our server, though...

[Icemage]

PLD? I don't think so. They are garbage in MND and CHR [ For healing spells and Provoke] as well as abysmal (lowest in game) MP. These three deficiencies make them among the worse race choices for PLD. Oh, yeah, they have an entire like... 3 more VIT. ...Yay. Elvaan = Relatively same VIT; highest MND; more MP; high CHR; high STR. Overall, i'd think Elvaan to be a better PLD, non?

MND = meaningless to PLD. Healing skill completely eclipses MND as the primary factor for healing spells, so the Elvaan advantage here means zilch.

CHR = Provoke isn't even vaguely the only tool that PLD use for enmity. Shield Bash, Holy Circle, Sentinel, Defender, Warcry, Rampart, Flash, Cures. 'Nuff said.

STR = DEX is more important than STR for holding aggro for PLD. All the STR in the world won't help you if you don't hit...

More MP = So what? +MP gear, or even HP->MP gear is easy to get, and is only really necessary at the start of an XP chain or a big fight. This is what the /equip command is for, boys and girls. Besides, if you're not going out with some decent MP recovery (BRD and/or RDM) you're going to be hurting even if you're a Tarutaru PLD.

Elvaan have lower AGI, as well, which means they also take more critical hits.

Well played Galka PLD have WAY outshined the Elvaan PLD I've played with. They take hits better, take less damage, get hit less often for critical hits, and can survive special attacks/spells that would flatten any other race (which makes me happier as a WHM, personally speaking).

And if you think 7 VIT isn't that big a difference, just ask any Paladin you see who has a Gluttony Sword how much of a difference it made for them when they got it.


Icemage

[JexIntrepid]

oh, and Galka are by far the best Drks.

Their high VIT helps them take the hate whenever they aggro, and they could use Soul Eater much better than any other race.
And their STR is second best, so they hit the second hardest, have better acc than Elvaan so they'll miss less often.

[Purvy]

Well granted i am not as high a lvl as many of you are but i have had no troubles lvling any job with my Galka thus far. As far as the low MP of a Galka PLD, i just got my RSE gloves and it gave me a really nice boost in MP as will the other pieces when i get to the right lvls. I use 2 rings to boost my CHR and use boiled crab to increase my already whopping vitality even more. I have a static PT with a mithra RDM and taru BLM(all within 1k XP of each other). we generally try and pick up a couple melee and a WHM if available but for the majority of our lvls we did it without a WHM in the PT and without deaths. we are approaching lvl28 now and at lvl37 i may try a nin sub just to see how it all works out. But if you actually pay attention to what you are doing u can make any race work decently for any job you just need to equip the right gear to make up for your paticular weakness. 1 thing i would like to add is that when i was lvling WAR i noticed that many PLD's don't use all their assets to try and hold hate anyway. only a few times did i ever see a PLD use shield bash. Also to help hold hate i will cast a Cure 2 on myself Midway inbetween Vokes which i spam every 30 secs. Although it takes my usefulness in a skillchain out cause i need to rest inbetween fights i can generally hold hate. The biggest problems i have had is when my BLM cuts loose before i can get my 2nd voke in. Also since i heal myself alot i got a healing skill of like 65. i also have tried different experiments with different jobs and all have worked out ok, although i did get a lot of funny looks and tells when i was lvling my naked Galka thief to lvl15(just to see if i could do it)

[FeralisCallidus]

Elvaan's aren't even in the race for being the top dog at being a MNK. Theonly real competition that a Galka has for best MNK is a Mithra.

You're loony.

[Griddlecake]

...such harsh words. I'm hurt.

It's bad enough we Galkas had to prove you wrong. At least you can do is take it like the Elvaan you are and just accept that you're inferior to us... as WAR, MNK, PLD, and DRK

[FeralisCallidus]

My god.

You proved NOTHING. =)

[Megatron]

It's bad enough we Galkas had to prove you wrong. At least you can do is take it like the Elvaan you are and just accept that you're inferior to us... as WAR, MNK, PLD, and DRK

Galkas make the best Monks and War arguably but they def.. dont make the best darks and paladins.

anything with mana galka is no way superior.

whats a galka dark gonn do cast one drain spell?? one absorb spell cmon now.

not only main job mana but using a support job such a blm/whm/rdm or whatever you can have access to other spells and make your char. even more useful.. galka cannot effecivtly.

but no doubt galka is the best monks and maybe best wars although i think elvaan is about even in that category.

im sick of galkas acting like mana is no big deal... mana is so damn important in any job that features it.. galkas are in denial about this.

[JexIntrepid]

It IS a big deal. But mana pool can easily be increased with the right equipment, and post lvl 41 it really doesn't matter anymore, as you have a redmage or bard usually in pt to do refresh.

Unless your rdm sucks, as a Galka Drk, your mana will never be an issue. Even as pld, that shouldn't be an issue.

And as a Drk, Galka have better INT than Elvaan, which makes their spells land better. would you rather waste more mp trying to have drain land or just try it once, get it to land and lose more mp, which will be refreshed anyways?

Again, it's nothing personal, but i think for someone talkin' about how aweful and "loony" Galka are for pld, you're pretty full of it, FeralisCallidus


You're a fuckin' elvaan rng. By far the worst possible race for that job. If you disagree, you are a n00b. I don't care what lvl u are. You won't be Legolas.

no more comment.

[greysenn]

Actually, if you have a bard for Racc up, elf rangers shred stuff. I don't even know if the hit rate is as much of an issue even without a bard.

I know that I was definetly getting outdamaged shot per shot by one in BCNM40. Strength matters more than people want to think.

[Megatron]

And as a Drk, Galka have better INT than Elvaan, which makes their spells land better. would you rather waste more mp trying to have drain land or just try it once, get it to land and lose more mp, which will be refreshed anyways?

a little bit of +int isnt going to have that much of an effect... lower int but more mana is way important in my opinion.. i agree that it changes alot with redmage and bard later but not to the point where it is not an issue at all... that crap a galkcalls a mana pool is so gimped.. ok i agree if they have tons of money and have uber equipment but the elvaan with same equipment is gonna have awesome mana more hten galka.. so the one race can always outshine the galka.

and galkas big numbers in VIT/HP mean nothing as a paladin if you cant keep hate.. you gotta have a master of your mana with pally which is why i take hume as the prime choice.

the job is a balance of knight amd mage so what is better then a balanced race... include mithra in there also.

am i trying to say galkas cant be pallys or darks? no.. i am just debating the comment saying galkas are superior in these jobs.

[FeralisCallidus]

You're a fuckin' elvaan rng. By far the worst possible race for that job. If you disagree, you are a n00b. I don't care what lvl u are. You won't be Legolas.

YOU, my friend, are a newbie. You are talking to someone who has at least broken the second Level Limit, and corroberate (sp?) with half a dozen lv75 Japanese Rangers. It has been established that elvaan is the worst Ranger in terms of ACCURACY, and there is more than enough +ACC equipment to make up for that. Furthermore, Prelude and Frost>>Monster easily overshadow the minute difference there is in Agility between races, even at level 75. Don't open your mouth if you are just going to spew shallow garbage.

/end rant

[JexIntrepid]

Originally posted by FeralisCallidus


YOU, my friend, are a newbie. You are talking to someone who has at least broken the second Level Limit, and corroberate (sp?) with half a dozen lv75 Japanese Rangers. It has been established that elvaan is the worst Ranger in terms of ACCURACY, and there is more than enough +ACC equipment to make up for that. Furthermore, Prelude and Frost>>Monster easily overshadow the minute difference there is in Agility between races, even at level 75. Don't open your mouth if you are just going to spew shallow garbage.

/end rant

Awesome, i knew you would reply with a comment involving how enough +ACC equipment could make up for it. And well? Galka have the same advantage to use some +MP equipment, which will easily make them have decent MP. And then... have a Rdm in your party for refresh? Is that so hard? don't think so.
Maybe if you have an incompetent rdm or brd.

To be honest, i still think Galka make the best Drks cuz of higher INT and better VIT. With both of those combined, and since Drks usually draw aggro quite often, they don't die in a second after pulling aggro. the Drk Soul Eater (best) ability revolves around having better HP.

I really dont think Galka are the BEST plds but they're definitely up to par with Elvaan with +MP equipment, the same way, sir, you are saying that your Elvaan rng is up to par with other races with +ACC equipment.

I rest my case.