Vrtra = defeated

[Les]

sorry but i just have to reply to seed soldiers comment.

maybe because japanese players are somewhat more humble? rather than filling a bbs with 10 screenshots of their victory, which is basically bragging they took one screenshot of the HNM, i think they were probably more relieaved and happy that they beat it, first thing that comes to mind is NOT "let me take 100 screenshots to brag about".


i don't doubt that screenshot one bit.

[MrADC]

Probably don't seen many screens for that dragon fight since they were most likely focused on fighting. Why chance messing up a dangerous battle to snap screenshots?

[gix]

Don't know where you get your information, but there aren't such lines on gilgamesh waiting for genbu. The top LS's have yet to kill Vrtra. There are a lot of JP HNM LS on gilgamesh that's about it.

[Blood Red Poet]

Right now, the only reason to kill them is for fun..

Hmm and get some of the best armor in the game ? (That w/ fun is the reason people go HNMing isnt it?)

Anyway, NO one knows all the dragons drops. This is the first reported killing of Vrtra. And as we know it might take you like 20 times to kill one HNM to get that super rare drop. And these dragons are like x5 times more greedy. So why say we need to repair the drops when we havn't even seen probably half of them. I would say 'make them drop more stuff' if anything. But that is just me .

Btw, it is REAL. Don't make yourself look dumb >< it is real, no doubt about it. And... servers doesn't give +stats to HNM LSes, so why does it matter if they are not your server?

[TheMidg]

Originally posted by MrADC
Probably don't seen many screens for that dragon fight since they were most likely focused on fighting. Why chance messing up a dangerous battle to snap screenshots?

As said before it looks like that pictures on on PS2 and taking a picture on PS2 version takes a long time :sweat:

[Demetrios]

Hmm and get some of the best armor in the game ? (That w/ fun is the reason people go HNMing isnt it?)

Anyway, NO one knows all the dragons drops. This is the first reported killing of Vrtra. And as we know it might take you like 20 times to kill one HNM to get that super rare drop. And these dragons are like x5 times more greedy. So why say we need to repair the drops when we havn't even seen probably half of them. I would say 'make them drop more stuff' if anything. But that is just me .

Please check these following links:

http://mysterytour.web.infoseek.co.j...914/bougu.html

http://mysterytour.web.infoseek.co.j...0914/buki.html

Both of links have been around since the patch which added the dragons came out. All drops from the dragons to this date are on this these lists, however, no NM has been assigned to any of the items. So far the only new item that I have yet to hear drop from one of the dragons is the Mecurial Sword, which I'm going to assume comes from Vrtra due to that Tiamat drops Herald Gaiters + Kote, and Jorg drops the JSE Body ore and the Mecurial pole.

Killing these dragons is just to say that you can do it. You will spend upwards to 2+ hours and a lot of death to get items that are useful only in EXP parties or to show off in town. Most Sky/Ground God HNMLS probably don't go hunt Simurgh often, but it drops an item that is basically identical to the one that Tiamat drops. For the dragons to be really useful, I believe that each should have to drop a Wyrmal, Neptunal, Koenig, Adaman, or Dryadic body (not Dalmatica since it already has two HNMs which it drops from.) Perhaps they could introduce a system where like Zenith, each other Cursed Item set has a second HNM it drops off of, and the 3 dragons could act as a 2nd source of rare body abjurations. Just please make Koenig Body from Tiamat or Jorg-_-;.

[Serif]

Originally posted by SeeD Soldier
I'm sorry to be mr rain cloud hear but I doubt Vrtra has been defeated. Currently on Ragnarok (which is probably one of the biggest HNM servers, there is no such thing as an unclaimed HNM in Ragnarok) the LS Mastermind which is basically the best HNM LS on Ragnarok (when cap was 70 they were the first to kill most of the HNM that people thought unbeatable) holds the record of fighting Vrtra for about 5 minutes and getting him down about 2% hp with only 98% hp to go till he massacured them. I have never heard of anyone lasting more then 5 minutes against him and being hit by him personally (hit me for 800 dmg and then again about 2 secs later) I know he hurts. Not to mention he is surronded by at least 10 T-VT aggro mobs to lvl 75s, he summons NM skeletons, has a huge regen hp rate, and also all the regular deadly dragon abilities (Tiamats Spike Flail usually kills everyone who tries to defeat him.... I don't wanna imagine how powerful Vrtra's is). Also if someone miracolously did defeate Vrtra wouldn't they want to take more then one PS2 screenshot, come on if anyone actually defeated him probably everyone who did it would take a few screenshots of the death and items, but no some LS someone beat the undefeatable and took one low resolution PS2 screenshot.

Actually his HP Regen Rate when we fought him, couldn't even notice anything. We fought him for around ehrrr 10-20 minutes. Got him down to where he had 95% health. Was formulating a way to beat him, but then WoW come out and people lost interest. He is not that hard if you have designated people to take out the EXP mobs. Also most JPs are modest and humble abotu their doings. They are going to be like most people, OMG WE KILL VRTA WE PWNJI all other HNM LS!!!!! Also, Spike Flail is easily enough to avoid. If you know the strat.

It is simple, they killed it. Now go suck on Mastermind's tits some more. And level up a class that are actually useful on HNM :D

[Marijuana]

Serif starts casting Fag's Prelude on Serif.

Serif gains the effect of Fag.

[Corrado]

Originally posted by Blood Red Poet
Hmm and get some of the best armor in the game ? (That w/ fun is the reason people go HNMing isnt it?)

Anyway, NO one knows all the dragons drops. This is the first reported killing of Vrtra. And as we know it might take you like 20 times to kill one HNM to get that super rare drop. And these dragons are like x5 times more greedy. So why say we need to repair the drops when we havn't even seen probably half of them. I would say 'make them drop more stuff' if anything. But that is just me .

Stop posting stupid things. You're only level 60 or something and it shows. Come back when you have some experiance in these things, which you quite obviously don't.

Dragon drops are junk.

[Koroco]

Originally posted by SeeD Soldier
I'm sorry to be mr rain cloud hear but I doubt Vrtra has been defeated. Currently on Ragnarok (which is probably one of the biggest HNM servers, there is no such thing as an unclaimed HNM in Ragnarok) the LS Mastermind which is basically the best HNM LS on Ragnarok (when cap was 70 they were the first to kill most of the HNM that people thought unbeatable) holds the record of fighting Vrtra for about 5 minutes and getting him down about 2% hp with only 98% hp to go till he massacured them. I have never heard of anyone lasting more then 5 minutes against him and being hit by him personally (hit me for 800 dmg and then again about 2 secs later) I know he hurts. Not to mention he is surronded by at least 10 T-VT aggro mobs to lvl 75s, he summons NM skeletons, has a huge regen hp rate, and also all the regular deadly dragon abilities (Tiamats Spike Flail usually kills everyone who tries to defeat him.... I don't wanna imagine how powerful Vrtra's is). Also if someone miracolously did defeate Vrtra wouldn't they want to take more then one PS2 screenshot, come on if anyone actually defeated him probably everyone who did it would take a few screenshots of the death and items, but no some LS someone beat the undefeatable and took one low resolution PS2 screenshot.

I am sorry if you think Ragnarok is the biggest HNM LS from any server which it definetely isn't. That screenshot is legitmate. I don't know why you complain because the biggest HNM is deafeasted on a server which isn't Ragnarok

[SeeD Soldier]

I only quoted Ragnarok becuase its one of the top Servers, I wasn't trying to be elitest or anything (frankly I hate Ragnarok) I know its not the best but its hardly bottom of the barrel. I still 100% believe he hasn't been defeated and I won't be swayed by one PS2 screenshot (well there is 3 but the other 2 just show people dieng and a close up of mages casting spells and you can't even make out whats arouns them). All I see if people saying "it could happen" and no one actually who knows someone who defeated or even themselves defeated Vrtra. Just saying "well I took it down 10%" or "well this site lists his drops" proves he has been killed. Come on if he has been beaten quote a server, a linkshell, a person, or a screenshots of something... like maybe um drops. I bet all you people probably believed the shots of Genbu dropping Shining Cloth and Suzaku dropping Venemous Claw.

[ClydeArrowny]

Don't know where you get your information, but there aren't such lines on gilgamesh waiting for genbu. The top LS's have yet to kill Vrtra. There are a lot of JP HNM LS on gilgamesh that's about it.

Meh, guess I mistook Gilgamesh for some other server. There is a server however that has horrible HNM crowdedness.

[Les]

gotten a venomous claw suzaku before, but only once.

=)

[Seph Leonhart]

Originally posted by SeeD Soldier
I only quoted Ragnarok becuase its one of the top Servers, I wasn't trying to be elitest or anything (frankly I hate Ragnarok) I know its not the best but its hardly bottom of the barrel. I still 100% believe he hasn't been defeated and I won't be swayed by one PS2 screenshot (well there is 3 but the other 2 just show people dieng and a close up of mages casting spells and you can't even make out whats arouns them). All I see if people saying "it could happen" and no one actually who knows someone who defeated or even themselves defeated Vrtra. Just saying "well I took it down 10%" or "well this site lists his drops" proves he has been killed. Come on if he has been beaten quote a server, a linkshell, a person, or a screenshots of something... like maybe um drops. I bet all you people probably believed the shots of Genbu dropping Shining Cloth and Suzaku dropping Venemous Claw.

I think you're just trolling. We've given you the server it was defeated on. We've given you the drop list. We've given you an LS name. We've given you player names(in the screenshots). And now I'm about to give you an AH listing of the Reviler's helm. Tried to get a screenshot of the title but Pino had Kirin Captivator when I checked him, and asking him to change isn't an option; he's Japanese.

[ClydeArrowny]

I bet all you people probably believed the shots of Genbu dropping Shining Cloth and Suzaku dropping Venemous Claw.

Oh, darklighter; Suzaku /does/ drop venomous claw. If you dont believe me and want to ask someone else from your server, ask russta or mcclane.