[GM]Dave's feelings on Manthras

[Aksannyi]

Re: [GM]Dave's feelings on Manthras

Oh I hate that card, "You should be flattered!"

Give me a break. To all the males who don't get it, you try being a female in a game riddled with virgin males willing to stick their dick in anything with tits and a hole and see how you like being propositioned every thirty seconds.

Not much fun at all.

[Brielle]

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I completely agree with that, it really should not matter if someone is male or female when playing online games. My problem was when I tried talking over a ventrilo server, it was a bit hard to mask my gender after that point.

It my situation, I removed myself from the issue and let someone else take over. Most of my guild were male and did not understand why it bothered me, assuming I should find it flattering. To me, I am just as capable as any male player at making currency in the game, acquiring gear, finding my way around the world, fighting monsters, etc.

[Kittyneko]

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I learned to not care for those gender issues.. It's never good either way. I get called dude, man, babe, hun among others. I never make a point out of it, aslong as it stays appropriate. I do tell the truth when asked by friends, when I really think my answer is not going to do any good, I just ignore it. It shouldn't matter anyway, right? I can hardly think of a game situation in which it matters for me whether someone thinks i'm a man or a woman.

[Bluecat]

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When people ask me if I am a girl or a guy I just say, "I am whatever you want me to be, if I am a girl I am a girl, if I am a guy I am a guy." It makes them wander more, but its also fun to keep them guessing xD.

[Nuriko]

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I play a Mithra, and I remember somebody who said they hoped that I was really a girl...

My response: "I hope so too."

[TheGrandMom]

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It's called natural curiosity.

[Jei]

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I don't think it's about intrusion Feba. It's just a casual talk. No the person doesn't have to answer but people just ask about it all the time without really thinking anything about it.

[Feba]

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One reason is that some conversations on vent just aren't for younger ears. I'm sure people don't want some psycho mother screaming over vent over something their child heard.

It is the parent's job to watch what their children are up to. If a kid honestly tells you their age, they've probably already failed to do that. Either way, you can't be sure at all, if a parent gets bitchy tell them that they should be keeping an eye on what their little snowflake is doing.

And the point I was making is that after knowing someone for a while sometimes you get suspicious of things they've said like their age/sex.

And again, if they don't want to tell you how they are in reality, what business do you have to intrude? What difference does it make to you if that Elvaan MNK is a 15 year old girl or a 38 year old man, if they don't want to talk about their lives?

Vent lurking I can understand, but that's a separate issue.

Then you have this collective group who decide it is okay to try and verbally molest anyone with the potential for being a woman/girl.

This is why they invented the blacklist and kick.

Great way to keep the riffraff out of the guild, too.


Quite honestly, I don't see why you feel like you need to trouble yourself on the off chance that you're going to take a gift from some asshole who will later try to take advantage of it. Take the gifts, and if they try to use that as an excuse to harass them later, blacklist the dumbasses. Hell, if they get too bad before you bl them, call a GM for sexual harassment, too.

[Brielle]

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That was a wonderful excerpt from his blog, it made me giggle.

On the topic of girls and gaming..

When I was playing World of Warcraft, my husband and I were both raid leaders for a guild there. When the guild was first starting out, we just typed out commands and everything worked out fine. Of course, the guild got larger and it became difficult to control raid members with text, so we decided to get a ventrilo server to use instead.

The story begins the first time I speak on the server, it was as if someone had opened a flood gate. The comments, the gifts sent to me, the offerings of help on a daily basis. It all became ridiculous, to the point where I stopped leading raids and muting my microphone because of the harassment.

I find that many men/boys who play online games can be perfect gentlemen, reciprocating any assistance between the mutual parties (even if of the opposite sex). Then you have this collective group who decide it is okay to try and verbally molest anyone with the potential for being a woman/girl. It is so true that a rotten apple ruins the bunch, there is this paranoia involved. Telera, I share the same feelings when someone offers me anything when I am playing. Even at work, I am weary when a male co-worker offers to help me. It is truly sad that we have to interact this way.

[Kailea]

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many guys are pigs....sorry about that ladies -.- but anyway, I love it when guy hits on me.. because the I get to show them the "I'm a guy card" and they freak ;p

I, myself don't like taking items from people, so far I have only accepted a gift from one person, another Mithra who I have been talking to for a long time. I don't like the general group I am placed in as a guy playing a female character, I don't lie or flirt to get items or gil, and hate the ones that do -.-

[Telera]

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These things also can be annoying for those of us who can keep it in our pants; since female players get to the point where turn down gifts and such because of these people.

This = true.

As a 'girl gamer' I find myself almost instantly suspicious of any gift or overt kindness done toward me by anyone. For one, I don't want people to ever get the impression that I'm after anyone's 'rarz'. I am not after any 'rarz'. And I don't flirt with people in games, being happily spoken for in reality. But I also don't want to feel like I owe someone, either, and I generally do, even if what's been given is a gift.

I've always felt odd about taking things from people in the real world, or in games. But more so in games, because I'm often afraid it's going to come back to bite me in the ass, with me gaining a guy tagging on, hounding me about me 'owing' him somehow for what he gave me. Or worse still, me somehow giving him the wrong impression and him thinking that I like him. That would be bad. I don't like to hurt people. Usually... >.>;

It's actually to the point that I'm wary of even talking too much to 'random' guys I come across in games, if only because I have been harassed in rather disgusting ways in the past, and it not only pisses me off, it sometimes kind of scared me. Which is irrational, yes, but it did all the same.

[Murphie]

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Exactly. Those are irrelevant to an MMO; those juicy details only need to be shared inside the Murphie Fan Club.

Only 49.95 a month gets you access to all of the juicy Murphie details you crave!

I've never felt the need to "verify" the stories people tell me in MMOs. I just take things with a grain of salt.

[TheGrandMom]

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Why is this an issue?

One reason is that some conversations on vent just aren't for younger ears. I'm sure people don't want some psycho mother screaming over vent over something their child heard. And the point I was making is that after knowing someone for a while sometimes you get suspicious of things they've said like their age/sex. Getting on a chat program sometimes can help verify them. Also I just do not like lurkers on Vent/TS so sometimes I'll offer to get them a headset so they can fully participate. It's particularly annoying when they want to respond to a vent conversation and the only venue they have is ls chat. Then people in the ls are going WTF!? and you end up explaining over and over "It's vent chat" "It's vent chat" "It's vent chat"....

[Feba]

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What is not relevant is what gender I am, my age, where I work, what my favorite color is, or what kind of relationship I am in.

Exactly. Those are irrelevant to an MMO; those juicy details only need to be shared inside the Murphie Fan Club.

[Murphie]

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I don't see why anyone I play a game with is entitled to any personal details about me or my life. Relevant details are what kind of player I am, and whether I do what needs to be done at an LS event. What is not relevant is what gender I am, my age, where I work, what my favorite color is, or what kind of relationship I am in. I may choose to share those details, but at no point are you entitled to them.