New Aht Urghan Videos And the new Job

[Blood Red Poet]

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I think South is coming out next, and/or North will be next.

FFXI's expansions are optional and connect how you want. You can have CoP -> main story -> RoZ, main story -> CoP -> RoZ, ect instead of the main story -> RoZ -> CoP(which seems most canon). There was a quest released that concludes RoZ and CoP together and didn't hint at the order of things. SE does makes hickups however, how Fernir is shown in a dead state in CoP to Windurstians who completed the story before hand. Anyway, its likely ToUA will have a quest at the end of its release that works with Tenzen at the end of CoP.

PS. There is more than one country in the Far East.

[Darkhound]

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Thanks everyone for their information. I am eager to do that Quest that finishes RoZ and CoP. Yet, there is something that confuses me, hope somebody here can clarify it for me please!

I was checking my missions log on RoZ and it said something of tihs sort "And so ends another episode in the neverending tale of Van'diel bla bla bla...." Which makes me belive that im DONE.... on CoP... on the other side, I did everyting that is avaialble and it sitll says i am on the "Dawn" or whatever mission!!!

IMO, the RoZ ending, was weak.... CoP's ending was amazing, especially with that song... omg.. i want wait for more?

Now, some of you mention of a new quest.... that ends both RoZ and CoP, I am at work so my access to other sites is limited. Can somebody be kind enough to give me so information on this, and how it ties up.

Thank you very much,
DH

[klvino]

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Thanks everyone for their information. I am eager to do that Quest that finishes RoZ and CoP. Yet, there is something that confuses me, hope somebody here can clarify it for me please!

I was checking my missions log on RoZ and it said something of tihs sort "And so ends another episode in the neverending tale of Van'diel bla bla bla...." Which makes me belive that im DONE.... on CoP... on the other side, I did everyting that is avaialble and it sitll says i am on the "Dawn" or whatever mission!!!

IMO, the RoZ ending, was weak.... CoP's ending was amazing, especially with that song... omg.. i want wait for more?

Now, some of you mention of a new quest.... that ends both RoZ and CoP, I am at work so my access to other sites is limited. Can somebody be kind enough to give me so information on this, and how it ties up.

Thank you very much,
DH

http://promathia.runtimerepairs.com/index.html

[tazirai]

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RoZ ending isnt an ending, the True Ending is the final quest/mission that cloes out both Storylines.

[Darkhound]

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Thanks for the link on CoP im going to go read it now!

As for that quest... do you guys refere to "Apocalypse Nigh?

[Altae]

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Blue Mage
Acquisition of Spells

Can only get new abilities with Blue Mage as main
Must Defeat enemy before ability can be learned
Must be able to get XP from a mob to learn a spell from it
Can't learn it if you die
Must be within a certain distance of the monster

This part kinda concerns me..... I can already imagine how many PTs can get annoyed from lost exp chains, or whatever, simply because the Blue Mage will think that they need to land a finishing hit to their target.

The idea is probably that it wouldn't matter if the Blue Mage finished the monster off or not, but there will be those idiots who think so. Although, a minor inconveinience by the way certain players think&play, I'm sure there is a greater scale of annoynace this can provide. I just haven't thought of it yet. (Like God-like monsters killing your entire alliance so the Blue Mage can learn some ability?)

[Kafeen]

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There's no point where it suggests you need the killing blow.

You must get exp from it and you can't die during the fight. As long as you're in the allience that killed the mob, there's nothing to even suggest you need to be engaged in combat.

[Sanim]

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I don't think that you can't die, I understand it as you can't be dead when the mobs dies. But who knows...

[TheGrandMom]

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I believe that they inferred you could not die during battle nor be dead after the battle was won. If you did either, you would not learn the ability. You just simply could not die.

[Sanim]

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I believe that they inferred you could not die during battle nor be dead after the battle was won. If you did either, you would not learn the ability. You just simply could not die.

I see. I wasn't sure but if you say so, I'll believe you

In that case, I hope that BLU is an expensive/rare-ex (not for Gilbuyers) job and so for experienced players.. Partying in Dunes with a BLU that is more interested in getting "X" ability than in getting exp is going to be painful :x Or maybe, a new kind of parties is going to appear in the same way as "Skill up" parties.

[Tirrock]

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Huh. That'd be kind of fun, I'd think. A blue mage skill gaining party. Get a WHM/BLM for teleports/escape and such, and have a bunch of BLU going all over the world fighting specific types of monsters to learn their abilities.

[Karinya]

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The part quoted by Tazirai says "Can't learn it if you die"...

However, I'm not sure how well this is distinguished from "Can't learn it if you are dead", which could imply that you can die, get raised/RR and learn it.

In ordinary real-world situations, "having died at some time in the past" and "being dead right now in the present" are pretty well equivalent, so I don't know how well different languages can distinguish between them (particularly in ordinary phrasing as opposed to the unusually explicit phrases I used).

The original source of the information may not have been that precise in the first place (or may even have been from someone who didn't think of this question or didn't know the answer to it), and in addition it was translated by someone who may or may not have been aware of the implications of that kind of nuance, so I don't think we can put much confidence on an interpretation of specific word choice.

On top of that, TAU is still in development and info leaked during development may not represent the release version, even if it was accurate at the time.


I don't think there's any question about which way SE *should* go with this, though. Having the requirement that the BLU can't die at all during the battle gives them a strong incentive to stay away from the battle until the end, spend more time healing/stoneskinning themselves than fighting the mob, etc; the system should be designed to align their interests as closely as possible with the party's. (Although I suppose it really only comes up if there are blue magics that can only be learned from NMs - Meteor, etc. Otherwise it shouldn't be that hard for the BLU to survive the vast majority of battles, and if they die to one mob, pull another to learn from.)

Furthermore there's the problem of defining what "died during the battle" means, when people can enter/leave the party/alliance fighting a given mob... "Are you dead right now?" is a very straightforward question and trivially easy to code, like "Are you in the party/alliance with claim on the dying mob?" and "Are you at least level X?".

[tazirai]

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I don't think there's any question about which way SE *should* go with this, though. Having the requirement that the BLU can't die at all during the battle gives them a strong incentive to stay away from the battle until the end, spend more time healing/stoneskinning themselves than fighting the mob, etc; the system should be designed to align their interests as closely as possible with the party's. (Although I suppose it really only comes up if there are blue magics that can only be learned from NMs - Meteor, etc. Otherwise it shouldn't be that hard for the BLU to survive the vast majority of battles, and if they die to one mob, pull another to learn from.)

Im taking part of your Qoute, because this is what I feared will happen to Blue Mages. They are Easily Combat Casters IE, front liners engaged in battle more so than a RDM is. But I really see Players(NA mostly, not to offend) stickign Blue mages in the "Mage" slot.

Thats what scares me is that its already pegged as "Healer". Persay

[WishMaster3K]

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There's also the fact that none of the shown expansion content resembles anything even close to being japanese or chinese, yet many things in the game which state they come from the 'far east' are.

I agree. In terms of visualizing this- the main FFXI continents (Ie: Quon) would be Europe, and the land in ToAU would be the middle east (India, Pakistan, etc etc).

The design of everything looks very Arabian-derived to me, so I agree with Ziero on that.

Edit:
Who cares how they fair? It means less meleeing RDMs, aren't you excited about that?!?!?! I know I sure as hell am. I hope BLU can use Joyeuse so I have an excuse to level a melee job past 37.

[Zempten]

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I think there is a set amount of points for learning. Meaning you can only take those points to learn a certain amount of monster's abilities. Basically I don't think you can learn ALL mob's abilities.

However, I'm very interested in all the possibilities of Blue Mage. It seems that they are going to be able to play all 3 job types in the game, which would be tank and DD (healer seems to be pointless with all the curing monster JA they could copy).

Tank:
Secretion
Crab's defense boost, Crawler's defense boost, . . . etc
Crab's stoneskin
beetle's evasion boost
Leviathan's Spring Water (I wonder if they can copy Avatar's 2hr . . . )
The rabbit one where they eat a carrot and gain HP
Dhamel's where they cure themselves

DD:
Jet Stream
Sickle Slash
Stomping
Frog Kick
1000 needles
Cursed Sphere
(Of course AE JA will be a little dangerous to pull off)
Vertical Slash or is Throat Stab? (The ones from the tonberries)


You know what would be really interesting? If a BLU went into the Ark Angel's fight and copies all their 2hrs . . . . . . hm . . . . the possibilities.

Edit: As far as PTing . . . for some reason I'm seeing a lot of BLU PTs in the future . . . seriously . . . . . 6 BLU Sickle Slash/1000 needles/whatever, someone's hurt? Spring Water, Rabbit Carrot thingy, or Dhamel's Healing Breeze, rinse and repeat?

It's pity I won't play BLU for some time. COR's AF is just so damn appealing . . . just like RDMs,not as cool as RDM's hat though ^^ I'm a sucker for AF lol