LIVE BETA VIDEO!!!!

[Kailea]

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Pooky was banned after SE told BG and another site to take the streams down off their sites



and no Icemage, its not a part of the agreement that i have to report NDA breaks like Pooky, I chose to

a few pics are one thing, a little bit of text is another, but streaming live Alpha testing is utterly stupid, and does alot of harm to the game.

I already saw many comments by viewers of that stream

"game looks like crap"
"wow clone" (we can of course omit this one)
"interface sucks"
"grind fest"


and a bunch of other things that are just based off an unfinished product, that should not have been seen by non-testers in the first place.

Its sad that I get called so many things and poked at, for doing the right thing, but that's life.

[TheGrandMom]

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Here is my take on this...

I've beta tested a LOT of games. I don't openly talk about it nor do I post pics. I would never consider doing a live stream. As far as others doing it, that is their, choice and I do not feel that they are doing it maliciously. It is their choice to make and their ass on the line. Would I report anyone doing any of that? Only if it was causing harm; as if they were altering pics in a negative manner or posting nasty negative things. But people breaking the NDA, for the most part, are only doing it to help out their fellow gaming fanatics. What I do take issue with is when people do decide to report others and they go around advertising that they did. Exactly what purpose does this serve? If you see someone shoplift something, do you report it and then stand there and yell "Someone just broke the law and I just reported them!!"? I also agree with Icemage that the NDA doesn't demand you report others that are in violation. Never, in all my years of testing, have I ever seen that.

As far as these streams, pics, and posts harming the game, that's bullshit. For every person saying that it looks like shit or something negative, there are 50 happy gamers getting very excited and thinking of saving their pennies to buy it. And did you ever consider that the Negative Nancys that are saying shit are only doing so because they are jealous that they can't play or just to cause a stir with the people that are excited?

I won't take anything down unless requested to do so by the powers that be. If for some reason that offends anyone then there are other websites on the internet to visit. Also if I have offended anyone oh well that's life. We can't all agree on everything because, if we did, life would be pretty damn boring!

[Icemage]

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(off-the-record)

Ok, kids, play nice.

- I haven't watched the stream, or tried to - I've been staying away from most of the FF14 coverage personally other than double checking the threads on this forum.

- If you're a tester, you agreed to an NDA, but I've never seen an NDA that requires you to report other breaches of NDA, so I call BS on that reasoning. I don't personally approve of NDA breaches as a whole, but it's not my place to play judge and jury on those that don't care.

- This site isn't owned or or officially affiliated with Square-Enix; it's a fan site, and so long as we're not the ones hosting the video or promoting it, I sincerely doubt they'll care whether or not we discuss things like this. I'm sure they're horrified that someone is breaking the NDA, but that's their burden to bear to figure out who it is and deal with them as they wish.


Icemage

[Ufgt]

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HAHAHAHAHAH Buzz Killington.

Quick, call the NDA police... oh wait, he's already here.

[Cryxen]

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And that people will judge graphics from live feeds, as opposed to the much more available official trailers.

[Solymir]

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i also saw asshat after asshat yelling in chat log, dumb asses will be dumb asses no matter if finished product or not.

[DakAttack]

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and this is what is happening right now, I have seen many people in the chat on the video, making their opinions about the game, based of the stream.

*looks at a pic of FFXIV* "oh that looks pretty"

*looks at a video" "the hell is all this crap going on?"

key difference in pics and video.

It's a shame opinions are forever.

[Kailea]

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But you're a hypocrite... you just admitted it. It's NOT ok to put pics and text when there's an NDA in effect. But it happens. A video is no more serious TO YOU than those pics. To the person streaming the video it is, but he really isn't your concern is he? Just don't watch it.

It's simple as hell.

The NDA is there to stop uninformed people from making uninformed opinions about the game.

and this is what is happening right now, I have seen many people in the chat on the video, making their opinions about the game, based of the stream.

*looks at a pic of FFXIV* "oh that looks pretty"

*looks at a video" "the hell is all this crap going on?"

key difference in pics and video.

[Cryxen]

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Almost everyones names appear to be alliterations.

Stupid SE and their unreasonable demand for surnames.

Stupid buzz-killers and their complaints about people seeing what they get to play.

[Durahansolo]

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I'm LMAO at these emotes. All Lalafel party up until the Hyur walked up.

[Gman]

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it has nothign to do with that, its simple as hell...


If anyone that worked for a company where they started a project, that had an NDA to it, if they leaked it, they could get fired, or even sued.

Just because its a game does not mean that the NDA is meaningless. Now I will admit, yea a pic here and there, or a little text, will happen and is not that big of a deal, but putting something like this up? is out right ridiculous.

But you're a hypocrite... you just admitted it. It's NOT ok to put pics and text when there's an NDA in effect. But it happens. A video is no more serious TO YOU than those pics. To the person streaming the video it is, but he really isn't your concern is he? Just don't watch it.

It's simple as hell.

[Cryxen]

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Only people interested in the game are really going to be looking at leaked video.

The NDA is there to stop uninformed people from making uninformed opinions about the game.

That's why i have no problem with people streaming the game, only people who care are going to take notice.

[Spazz]

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If anyone that worked for a company where they started a project, that had an NDA to it, if they leaked it, they could get fired, or even sued.

Took the words outta my mouth . . . and THAT is my stand. If you were in my position, you would feel the same way.

But you arent... and you never will be...

[Solymir]

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I'd love to, but I'm in Sky right now farming Diorites. Let me get back to you.

[Kailea]

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But why are you bothered by it? Are you one of those people who feels special and doens't want anyone else to be able to see this stuff? Hope not, or I'd lose respect for you.

it has nothign to do with that, its simple as hell...


If anyone that worked for a company where they started a project, that had an NDA to it, if they leaked it, they could get fired, or even sued.

Just because its a game does not mean that the NDA is meaningless. Now I will admit, yea a pic here and there, or a little text, will happen and is not that big of a deal, but putting something like this up? is out right ridiculous.