Paladins Attack Power

[Jei]

PLD and WAR got a little different role in parties.

WAR is mainly attacker. their 2 handed weapons are quite powerful (especcially axe, both 1h and 2h).
So in parties it is really your choice to sub something that boost attacking ability, or sub whm for some once in a while healing.
But as a warrior, people want to you safe TP up for renkei. They won't be happy for you to sit down to heal MP.

PLD is mainly damage reciever. later on at higher level PLD normally won't participate in renkei so much but instead PT give them a chance to sit down to heal MP. so casting heal magics between fight is not a big deal like WAR.

[Varo]

Hmm, so it sounds to me like a Paladin is God at early levels but when you become stronger, like say above level 50 then he's worthless. I probably wouldn't like that. I want a useful character throughout the entire game, even if it means I can't solo very well. How does a Dark Knight fit into all this?

Thanks for the replies guys. Your really helping me decide.

[Deli]

Originally posted by Varo
Hmm, so it sounds to me like a Paladin is God at early levels but when you become stronger, like say above level 50 then he's worthless. I probably wouldn't like that. I want a useful character throughout the entire game, even if it means I can't solo very well. How does a Dark Knight fit into all this?

I think u got the wrong idea that PLD is worthless. PLD main focus is to keep the monster on him ALL of the TIME eg. BCNM fights, PT, summon fights. And Lv 61 ~ 65, PLD is almost a must.

If u want a high attack job. Either Dragon Knight, Samurai. Ranger, Thf or Dark knight. If u go for dark knight, be prepare to died a lot.

If u want to solo a lot, be a BST/WEM, can solo all the way to 65.
If u want a job that is useful throughout the lvl range, be a bard, white or black mage.

[Awntawn]

Originally posted by Buttermilk
However, once you reach Lv60+, where every job gets specialized to their strengths, PLD's attack power is PATHETICALLY WEAK.

So is DRK's, apparently :sweat: Only problem is, we don't have another job, so you see why we're makeshift mages now? :mad:

[Jei]

PLD attack power is not weak. PLD is the best 1 hand swordsman. It's just that PLD's main focus in PT is not dealing damage but to recieve damage instead.

DRK RNG THF ... they sure do tons of damage. but without PLD protecting them, they would drop dead in a few hits.

[Awntawn]

Jei, is drk's damage in later levels really that significant? My ?æ”y’B (xua, skye XD) tell me it's worth jack compared to the blm, and that it's so insignificant that you're PT's just fine without it... :mad:

I've told to myself that maybe it's because most DRK still uses level 47 scythe even when they're level 60 because after that, the sheer amount of digits in the prices of the stronger ones is very intimidating. :sweat: Or am I just lying to myself

And to stay on topic, here's to sum it up: I don't consider a PLD to be a threat to my damage, but it certainly isn't nothing. You just won't ever be really impressed with it, that's all. On the other hand, if you use defensive/sentinal, you'll probably have contributed a millimeter. But it doesn't matter, damage is not your duty.

And um, if a "good pld" is determined by how well they get hate, and I get too much because of my aggressive playing style that the PLD usually can't pull it off me (many, MANY of my parties ; ), does that make them bad PLD, or me a bad DRK? ><

[dbeeo]

Originally posted by Awntawn
And um, if a "good pld" is determined by how well they get hate, and I get too much because of my aggressive playing style that the PLD usually can't pull it off me (many, MANY of my parties ; ), does that make them bad PLD, or me a bad DRK? ><

this means, you are a good dark pally

[Bousch]

Originally posted by Awntawn
And um, if a "good pld" is determined by how well they get hate, and I get too much because of my aggressive playing style that the PLD usually can't pull it off me (many, MANY of my parties ; ), does that make them bad PLD, or me a bad DRK? ><

Some people would consider you the bad player Awntawn. IMO you just do you job TOOOOOOOOOO well

If I was the paladin I would step it up another notch and work harder usually by spaming my bigger cures (anything to generate the hate). Maybe this paladin wasn't that good cause i've never ran into another melee class that has been able to keep the mob on them the whole duration of the fight YET.

[Jei]

i think DRK is pretty powerful. But nyway the real power of fighters lay on renkei damage
as long as you can connect your WS to others to make the right effect for the enemy.

A good DRK, is the DRK that knows when to run behind the PLD
A good PLD is the PLD that knows when to protect which members

[Kosh]

Well, if a PLD's primary duty is to keep the monster attacking him, than is there any excuse for a paladin NOT having warrior as a sub? I say this because wouldn't you say it's almost their duty to have the taunt command? Or is the TAUNT command not so great?

[Bousch]

Originally posted by Kosh
Well, if a PLD's primary duty is to keep the monster attacking him, than is there any excuse for a paladin NOT having warrior as a sub? I say this because wouldn't you say it's almost their duty to have the taunt command? Or is the TAUNT command not so great?

Healing can be a form of taunt, just about every spell except maybe for status spells generate some form of hate or agro. Im not saying TAUNT isn't effective don't get me wrong, its awesome. For me its just not as effective cause of my starting race, so I utilize the xtra MP I have with my WhM sub job to get the job done as well become a pretty decent back up healing when need be. With the other races this my differ. If I was an Elvaan I would probably have warrior as my sub.

[Varo]

Geez, it sounds like every proffesion is lopsided. It's too bad you can't make a combination that can deal the damage AND take the damage. Oh well, I stand before a fork now.:dead:

[Kosh]

They designed it like that on purpose to have you work as a diverse team. They made it so a team of Paladins or a team of dark knights would not be as desirable as a team of a DRK, PAL, BLM, WHM, SUM, DRG. Everquest was the same way. Everybody said "X" class was the best but everyone knew that you couldn't last with an entire party of the same class, so there really wasn't a "best" class. I think the same can be said about FFXI.

[Varo]

Well, i've pretty much only used to Ragnarok Online. If your a swordsman in that game, you can pretty much solo. Easily. However, I could get used to this Dark Knight though. I'd just have to run like hell if I get attacked (not sure if I like that idea).

[Lavian]

You can't really run u.u;; Without magic it's hard to escape from a mob, I swear they run faster then we do ;.; ... FFXI is a party game, just get in a party, and pick what role you want. Do you want to heal, cast fireballs, do alot of damage on the creature, or protect everyone else by taking all the damage.

Me I like the last one ^^ Being a meat shield helps raise your defensive skills, only way to lvl them really ^^ Raising weapon skills is done by attacking, does not matter how much damage you do to them...