Raging fists.

[kaelael]

Whats all the talk about it. maybe i'm using it wrong or something the most damage i've done with it vs an IT mob is around 100-275 with beserk and boost. the only mob that raging does some nice damage is ease prays 400-600 other then that its nothing. in my mind from all the post i've read raging was supose to do up to 500-700 damage to IT mobs. i've seen thf ditching out 400-500 damage with viper bite and plus a 100-300 when it chain. i was so happy the second i got it then i used it, it only did 75+ damage with out besserk or boost. some one explain.
:confused:
my stat str: 53 +12 dex 44 +6 attack 196

[Redlimit]

The key to doing a powerful Raging Fists isn't really in increasing your attack power, but rather making sure as many of the 5 hits land as possible. Each hit has a chance to hit or miss just like a regular attack with one hand.

So, make sure to use Focus. Accuracy and DEX boosting equipment helps as well. Have a BRD use an accuracy up song....

I think you will find that with even just Focus on you will do more damage with a Raging Fists than if you just used Berserk.

More Hits = More Damage = More TP Back

[Rico]

Also recomened to get the "Life Belt"

[Lone Dragon]

Um...Thieves are SUPPOSED to do that big damage with fuidama and viper bite, get used to it.

Until the dragoons get penta, Raging fists is one of the more powerful non-Sneaked WSs (probably THE most, but I'm not diving into that pool.)

[Mithrael]

Yeah, as recommended, Accuracy+ all the way. Though more often than I care to remember, i'd be fighting crawlers and launch Raging Fists to end a renkei... and the crawler would cacoon *cry*

Suddenly, even though all 5 hits landed, raging would do 70-100 damage. nothing you can do about it unless someone pre-dispels the crawler before you fire.

[Atis]

As a monk you will never see the absolute huge numbers like a thf using sneak+ws or a drk using guillotine or Crossreaper. Monks get their dmg through dps, which is the highest in the game at higher levels save a ranger.

[Seishi]

When fighting in CN, let the THF end the renkei. You can use "Tanken" WS (3rd h2h WS) follow by Viper Bite is great against Crawlers. As for Raging Fists, if you are a MNK at lv37+, try to talk to your PT of going to skeletons area such as Eldieme, or Behemoth Dome or Gustave. You will rock there.

[Lone Dragon]

Compression and Scission can not chain,
so One Inch Punch > Viper Bite is impossible (Gravitation comes from Detonation > Compression.)
Backand Blow > Viper Bite (Detonation > Scission), however,
IS possible (Monks and Thieves get those WSs at the same time),
but if I remember correctly, Crawlers are strong to earth, so the chain isn't that great.
Not that it really matters (damage is still high),
but going Transfixion > Scission to create Distortion would be much better,
because it's a lvl 2 (higher damage) and is part Ice (Crawler Weakness)
I'm sorta taking down Monks,
but it's not like they were that well thought of in the first place,
and most PTs have a Dragoon or Sam, so it's not that far a walk.

Monks get Raging Fists at lvl 41,
so the exp in the necro wouldn't be very good unless you take the I-10 entrance.

And yes, crawlers seem to cacoon at the worst times. ~_~;

[bside]

i think Seishi was trying to mean One Inch Puch>transfixion ws like Double Thrust>Viper Bite, to end w/ Distortion. he just skipped the transfixion part, i guess.

at any rate, once mnk learns Raging Fists, u might wanna consider to stay out of renkei, and let others do it, while u go for Raging Fists every once u have 100 TP. having One Inch Punch at the start sure will add more damage to renkei at the end, but considering the fact that it'll be a difference of 15% (60% against 75%) at the most, and that turns to be damage of 75 supposing Viper Bite does 500 damage, and also because mnk normally reaches 100% TP faster, staying out of renkei w/ solo Raging Fists all the way will probably end up w/ more damage. One Inch Punch isn't strong, either.

remember, there's no need for any of us to stick to Distortion renkei when we do crawlers, especially if u have a brd. w/ Threnody, the renkei damage won't be that low. and if ur party lacks thf, finishing renkei w/ Raging Fists should be one of the options to consider.

EDIT: btw, if u wanna hear more about the "60% against 75%" thing, post so here. unless someone else can point to the info in english.

[Lone Dragon]

Can't say I'm not curious.

Go on please. :x

[Seishi]

oh yea, my bad. I meant to say One Inch Punch>Double Thrust/Power Slash>Viper Bite.
But most PT prefer MNK to solo his/her WS with Raging Fists since MNK gets TP fast and can do a WS and gain TP half way before other attackers/thf can do renkei.

[Tsunare]

on the topic of Raging Fists... my monk is lv 36, I gain 1-2 lv when I party so I'm expecting that before too much more EXPing I'll be 41ish...

As Hume I'm wondering which equipment I should get to make sure I can land Raging Fists hits w/o going overboard?

I was looking at Jujitsu Gi (accuracy), Jujitsu Sitabaki (dex), +DEX rings, Emperor Hairpin, Custom Gloves (3str, 3dex if i recall correctly, i have these already), and I think I saw some accuracy earrings....

Problem being, the price tag for all that is several hundred thousand gil. I could camp VE for hairpin, but he's always camped by at least 1-2 people when i check (I try not to be rude and butt in on someone already camping, habit from other games).

I'm told a group of 40s can take the NM for the Gi/Pants (more worried about the Gi, the pants were like 8k on AH, tunic like 70-80k).

I'm working on goldsmithing and may hit the skill required to fashion my own dex rings and such around the time I get to 41, but wouldn't count on it.

So, I'm wondering if all that equipment is necessary, or if I can skip some of it? Also, does which class I sub matter a whole lot in getting the most damage out of it? I switch between /war and /thf depending on what the group is doing.

Life belt is level 50, correct? I think there was some reason I didn't considor it too seriously in the near future >.>

anyway, thanks for the time.

[Seishi]

I've always heard about the Jujitsu Gi, what lvl is it and what stats? how much? As for the glove instead of the custom RSE (STR+3, DEX+3), I would prefer the glove drop my Deggi in Oz. Lv34 ATK+20 /drool. I hunt that glove 3 days and finally drop, now equiping it on my SAM57, NIN42...will be on MNK25 soon. T-T

I got mix up with those belt, one is lv42 ATK+10, the other is Lv48 Accuracy+10.:sweat:

[Tsunare]

Jujitsu Gi is +3 or 4 Accuracy, on Gilgamesh in Jeuno the price history ranges from 70-80k for it. It drops off a NM in Davoi (I am pretty sure), but I don't know much more than that

I'll need to look into that other Glove, +20 atk sounds nice^^

EDIT: the Jujitsu Gi is level 40 to equip. MNK/NIN/SAM

[Aneyeisuponyou]

I use kote +20 atk, fuma +3%haste, purple belt ( thinking of switching to life when I log on), jujitsu slacks +some dex and jujitsu gi +4 acc. With those few items Raging fists does alot of damage... Not to brag but I keep party melee damage on, and dispite people telling me early on that Mnk was a subpar job, I find my Mnk out damaging almost every melee in the party. Sure Viper Bite does more dmg per a WS but lately I've been grouping with alot of Sam's and I'll WS with their Kegero (sp) their fire based WS and I WS about 2 X per a Thf 1 X and 2 Raging fists > 1 viper bite + average hit is higher. Thf might outdamage you WS vs WS but they hit like a whm outside of sneak. Can't expect to be better then everyone or everyone would be a Mnk.^^