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  • Me, Serket Breaker

    Woot!

    I recently joined a high level LS and they've started HNMs on Bahamut server. Last night I arrived too late to fight Simurgh (drops the +12% movement boots) but made it to the Serket event. There were 15 of us filling the basement of Garlaige, along with at least 20-30 other people from other LS all waiting for the scorpion king himself to spawn. Mashing my macro for nearly an hour, and I suddenly targetted Serket and almost jumped out of my seat. I was too far away for my macro and I figured we'd lose it to the others. But I ran towards him and spammed charm, and somehow I still got the claim before the other LS. A nearby whm in my LS hit it with Dia at around the same time, so we're not sure who actually got the claim, but Serket did run up and whack me first for 350 damage. Then we engaged Serket with a dual ninja / dual thief team front and back to staple hate, while a pile of mages sat back and alternated casting and resting, with our bard doing her rounds. I called Courier Carrie in and send her in to fight, but 20 seconds into the fight when Serket unleashed a special that did 731 damage to me, I decided that I probably didn't want to get involved in the melee. The battle takes a long time, and the bats and beetles that fill the basement were spawning and attacking our alliance, so I released Carrie and started doing circuits of the battleground, charming all the mobs and moving them to a safe distance to release.

    My HNM LS was exstatic, they'd never had a bst to deal with all the MANY adds of a 30 minute long battle, and instead had to devote time, mp and manpower to kill off the beetles and bats. I was glowing with pride at their comments at how much it helped having a bst to pull the adds off all our mages.

    The happy ending being of course, that Serket went down, I got my HNM title, and he dropped the 1.6M serket ring. Go go beastmaster!

    Serket today, Dynamis tomorrow (well, maybe someday).

  • #2
    wooo good job man. Glad to hear of those stories.

    The sad news from my lv 75 bst friend currently doing dynamis is that bst are not terribly useful in it whatsoever.

    His LS won't let him use pets at all because pets can go out of control very easily due to an AOE and go attack the last thing that smacked it. Not to mention the also random Sic AOE's.

    Since they are fighing 6-12 things at any one time, Sleepga is an absolute must. Having a rampaging crab going around and waking everything up is bad business so he's basically been religated to a sub par warrior without a pet. The dragoon at least gets to keep his pet.

    Pet pulling doesn't work in dynamis so he tells me and there's nothing to charm so it feels much like bst got jacked.

    Almost makes us feel like we're leeching but with 64 slots to fill, I guess a bst can go and still contribute something.

    Bst/nin is much weaker than a war/nin. In fact, bst/anything won't be able to contribute much if the bst/pet part is pretty much useless. He's thinking of subbing thf to just steal dynamis bucks. It feels more useful to him than being half assed melee.

    This was 2nd hand info btw and I'd LOVE to hear someone else with different experiences but as of late, I feel that maybe I should lv up smn instead.
    75/bst, 60/smn, 51/rdm, 46/whm, 40/blm, 37/nin, 37/thf, 37/war, 32/sam, 25/brd, 10/pld, 7/mnk

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    • #3
      The great thing about BST in dynamis is you can get your AF2/Relic really easy.

      In a typical Dynamis run, there'll be 5-10 of the "main" mages (whm, blm, rdm), 5-10 PLDs, but only 1-2 BSTs, if any. In my dynamis LS, I joined at the same time as my BST friend. About 2 weeks later he had 4 AF2 pieces, while I still only have one -_-;

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      • #4
        Originally posted by sudo


        The sad news from my lv 75 bst friend currently doing dynamis is that bst are not terribly useful in it whatsoever.

        His LS won't let him use pets at all because pets can go out of control very easily due to an AOE and go attack the last thing that smacked it. Not to mention the also random Sic AOE's.

        Since they are fighing 6-12 things at any one time, Sleepga is an absolute must. Having a rampaging crab going around and waking everything up is bad business so he's basically been religated to a sub par warrior without a pet. The dragoon at least gets to keep his pet.

        Pet pulling doesn't work in dynamis so he tells me and there's nothing to charm so it feels much like bst got jacked.

        Almost makes us feel like we're leeching but with 64 slots to fill, I guess a bst can go and still contribute something.

        Bst/nin is much weaker than a war/nin. In fact, bst/anything won't be able to contribute much if the bst/pet part is pretty much useless. He's thinking of subbing thf to just steal dynamis bucks. It feels more useful to him than being half assed melee.

        That's how I feel pretty much 100%. I want to be able to contribute more, know that I am helping. But it isn't really the case. :-/ Can never really replace a proper meleer, but subbing /war or /nin isn't so bad.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ForumWhore
          The great thing about BST in dynamis is you can get your AF2/Relic really easy.

          In a typical Dynamis run, there'll be 5-10 of the "main" mages (whm, blm, rdm), 5-10 PLDs, but only 1-2 BSTs, if any. In my dynamis LS, I joined at the same time as my BST friend. About 2 weeks later he had 4 AF2 pieces, while I still only have one -_-;
          This makes me cry. A lot. I don't have any. :\

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          • #6
            Seriously, I'm very pessamistic about the things I have to look forward to 60+. When I hit 60, I want to get into a good High-Level LS, but what do I really have to offer? That's why I'm going to lvl all my other jobs to 37, which is easier said than done, and also raise my crafting skills. However, that still doesn't change the fact that we're gimped end-game. Why S-E doesn't fix this is beyond me.

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            • #7
              You can get into any HNM or Dynamis LS you want to as long as they are decent and civil human beings. If you're a nice guy they should invite you. You CAN contribute, but it just won't be as much as other classes. Has anyone checked to see if we have any pets that don't have AOE attacks? Does amigo sabotender do AOEs (I can't remember off hand). I figure you could still use a pet as long as you promise not to use sic, and if you do there better not be multiple mobs around (sic on the last one in the group). I still think BST is great even if I don't do much in HNM battles. In some of them it's not like the other melees do anything either besides sit there and look pretty while getting hit in the face. Oh, and remember, we're not Dragoons so we do contribute

              Congratulations on getting Serket by the way. Charm is just the coolest aggroer.
              BST / WHM / BRD
              Status: Duo
              Current Leveling Spot: Boyadah Tree
              Current XP/HR: 2.5-3k (unparsed)
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              • #8
                BSTs are great for dynamis if you know how to use them - pulling. No you cannot split mobs, but having the pet do the pulling work is extremely valuable.

                Some reasons why:
                You don't lose a tank / other melee job to this activity (and no offense to bsts but the net affect is that you are probably better off pulling compared to other jobs)
                Carrie has a bunch of hp, and you can summon another one easily if she dies. This gives more time to sleep mobs /handle stuff.
                For suicide pulling, carrie + the bst gives you about 3500 hp to play around with before the suicide pull goes back to home. If anyone is unfamiliar with how this works, you can train around stuff in dynamis and pull other enemies off the train, and as long as you grab them and pull them far enough not to get aggro before the train person dies (the bst) the enemies come seperately. Also for suicide pulling, sending carrie in first then running away gives you like a guaranteed 8-10 second buffer before you die, giving extra time to pull enemies off (and without using a 2hr)
                Likewise sending carrie in first helps you to see if a pull will be to much to handle... you can suicide if it looks bad.
                Running around a train (statues / extra enemies) works better with carrie because it gives you the large hp buffer.

                In Bastok / Windurst this works really well, and it also works in sandoria/jeuno once some areas are clear. You can lose a lot of exp this way but if you coordinate it well I think it makes dynamis runs much smoother.

                I think BSTs aren't used for pulling mainly because there are often very few of them... and with very few bsts many dynamis LSs don't use them for this function. However it's very useful (my LS had cleared dynamis - sandoria with 29 people... with around 50 minutes to spare with the megaboss dead)
                Still trying to play way too much...
                60 BRD, 75 BST, 37 WHM, 15 THF, 16 BLM
                BCNM40 over 100 wins ><
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                • #9
                  I'm pretty sure Courels don't have area attacks, just Blaster and the silencing one, and I think they've added jugs for Courels recently (according to MysteryTour), but I have no clue on how to synth them.

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                  • #10
                    thanks starrealms for that note. I'm looking forward to be a sucidide taru XD

                    *gulp* does getting exp work any easier t at 75 to make up for all this dying you got scheduled for me?


                    Oh and to clearify things, it's not about pet sic AOE. It's more about other enemies AOE's damaging the pet.

                    Mob #5 damages carrier with AOE, blm sleeps mobs #5-10, crab was origionally fighting mob #1, but after the AOE, carrier goes insane and goes off to wack mob #5 w/o killing mob #1.

                    This of course wakes up mob #5 who probably will hit carrier once and then go off to wack the blm who slept him thus ending the blm's short but eventful life. blm blames bst for loosing control of pet and frankly carrier in this situation really has gone out of control since it wants revenge for that AOE hit and not much we can do about it.

                    Blm > Bst so no more bst pet use is what it came down to.
                    75/bst, 60/smn, 51/rdm, 46/whm, 40/blm, 37/nin, 37/thf, 37/war, 32/sam, 25/brd, 10/pld, 7/mnk

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                    • #11
                      I'm thinking of going BST/SMN so I can spam group Blink. I gotta do something for the team ^^

                      And my best bet is that Dynamis will never be full with 64 members going in. Any extra people are welcomed, as long as you don't have a crummy reputation.

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                      • #12
                        ya I know bst still get to go but mostly act like a gimped melee compared to the other jobs out there since we get no pet.

                        even the drg/whm can do more to help the pt.... shiver...


                        hehe you copying me jaby? I had that bst/smn idea first dang it. I've been using that as my job description for a long ass time now XD
                        75/bst, 60/smn, 51/rdm, 46/whm, 40/blm, 37/nin, 37/thf, 37/war, 32/sam, 25/brd, 10/pld, 7/mnk

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                        • #13
                          Here is an idea for BST that IMO would make us 100x more useful in Dynamis(and that SE could do with a little work). BTW, this was also done to the creature handler class in SWG a few months after release:

                          Keep the BST pet attacking whatever mob the BST used the fight command on. DO NOT let the pet attack any other mob unless the BST says so.

                          Please feel free to steal this idea all you want... I bet it has already been posted somewhere already.
                          BST / WHM / BRD
                          Status: Duo
                          Current Leveling Spot: Boyadah Tree
                          Current XP/HR: 2.5-3k (unparsed)
                          Alchemy:94 Woodworking: 60 Cooking: 60 Smithing:34 Goldsmithing:24 Fishing:34

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                          • #14
                            I wonder if Heel makes your pet forget about what damage it's taken.

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                            • #15
                              Yes, yes it does.

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