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  • Explain to me how Hume is not statistically the worst race.

    Out of all the advantages Hume have, I can only think of 2.
    1. They look good.
    2. They have high charisma.

    I chose Hume for reason number 1, but it still pisses me off that Hume are the second worst race for almost every class. High charisma is only useful for... what? two classes?

    Hume's claim is that they're an all-around balanced class that can play any class decently. Lies! In how many cases are Hume better than Mithra? Mithra have just about equal to or higher stats in every area except charisma. What?!? Why...?!?!

    Let's look at some of the popular race/class choices.

    Taru win hands down as any mage. Next in line are Elvaan if the class is RDM, WHM, or SMN. Higher MND is probably more valuable than the slight advantage Hume and Mithra gain through MP. Mithra and Hume would be next in line because they are just above dead even... except Mithra have higher AGI so they can dodge more attacks thrown at them. Then Galka is naturally last.

    Now let's look at tanks. Galka usually always win this. Paladins may be considered an exception because Elvaan can win because of the high MND, higher MP, and overall pretty decent defense/life. If Galka is first, Elvaan is next in line. After that you get Mithra because of high AGI, then Hume, then Taru.

    Melee Damage dealers? Elvaan, Galka, and Mithra all take the crown. Higher STR and DEX beat Hume in every regard. Lets face it, hitting a lot and hitting for a lot of damage is just naturally better than hitting an average amount for an average amount of damage.

    If you exclude the 2 or 3 classes Hume are good in, you're left with a race that gets that awesome last place every time.

    Can someone please share some redeeming qualties about them?

    -Kronikle
    Ayreon (RETIRED)
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  • #2
    Hume is balanced, you err on some of your judgements...

    Taru do make the best black mages and summoners due to their magic pool, Humes and Mithra tie for second because of the next highest intelligence and mp, Galka and Elvaan are both equally bad because they have low mp and int.

    Whm is a good job for Taru, but they have lower mind than the Elvaan. Elvaan however dont have the mp. Humes find themselves in the middle while Glaka (low mp) and Mithra (low mind) are the bottom races here.

    Rdm is a job most any race can do, so not even gonna cover it.

    Warrior depends clearly on what you want to focus on, Defense goes to Galka, Strength to Elvaan. Humes again are in the middle while Mithra have to count on evasion and accuracy to save them as warriors, otherwise they get shredded, and Taru just dont have the hp.

    Melee damage dealers are clearly Elvaan for their strength and mithra for their accuracy (dex and agility in the case of thf), Humes (again) in the middle, while Galkan dont have the strength of the elvaan nor the accuracy of the mithra, and Taru are physically weak as well.

    Galkan are physically tough, but not accurate or strong and definitely not magically enabled.

    Elvaan are Strong and a little less durable than Galka, they also have excellent mind and charisma, but they have the second worst mp growth, and are very inaccurate swingers.

    Tarutaru have insane mp growth, excellent int, and decent accuracy, but cant take physical punishment nor deal out the physical punishment.

    Mithra are very accurate, equal in all terms of int and mp growth as humes, but horrid mind and charisma. They also the second worse physically defensive and strong of the races.

    Humes are exactly what they are designed to be, good at every job, BUT NOT THE BEST!! They have no physical weak points, nor do they excel at any job more than any specialized race.

    Humes are not the worst stat wise, they are the most balanced to cover any job.

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    • #3
      Also, humes make the best paladin. Hands down.

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      • #4
        ... in your opinion.
        Dead: Nidhogg, Aspi, King Behemoth, Fafnir, Suzaku, Genbu, Byakko, Seriyu, Kirin, Jormungand, Tiamat, and Vrtra

        Next up: Ouryu, Dynamis Lord?

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        • #5
          Well fucking duh, you moron. You swear like me saying that=you're opinon. Oh, but this is just all my opinon, in case you didn't know.

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          • #6
            Galkas have statistically just about equal dex as hume and higher strength. Melee wise, Galka outdo Humes, easily.

            Magic wise, Hume and Mithra would tie since their stats for magic is about the same, but Mithra have an extra AGI. Magic users don't need AGI but who would you choose? 2 people with the exact same stats, except 1 of them has much higher agility. Oh and Mithra have about the same MND as Hume.

            Humes are not good at every job, they're just not the very worst.

            -Kronikle
            Ayreon (RETIRED)
            Server: Gilgamesh Rank 7
            60 MNK, 30 WAR, 26 BRD, 24 SMN, 22 DRK, 15 THF, 12 WHM, 7 BST, 5 NIN, 3 SAM, 2 DRG, 2 PLD
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            • #7
              Mithra have the worst mind in the game, Hume are above them.

              But you also have to remember since Humes are jacks of all jobs, but masters of none, they are designed for players who want to experience a variety of jobs. If you know exactly what job you want to be, pick the race that best suits it (i.e. Mithra Thief, Taru Black Mage, Galkan Monk etc...)

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              • #8
                Humes make equally good plds along with mithra and elvaans; their balanced stats along with their decent MP pools allows them to keep hate while still been a decent melee.

                If you play long enough; and want to experience a variety of jobs, then playing with hume means that you'll be disadvantaged in non.

                I've taken paladin upto 62 and am now going through whm and blm (bringing them to 37) to make subs as well as planning to play as some kind of damage dealing melee to a pretty high lvl (probably dark)... of course I could start different characters, but quests that I've already completed present a significant time investment.

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                • #9
                  If you dont like Hume, don't be one.

                  Unlike other races, we're never a gimp because of race/job combination.
                  Kuno's super cool stats!
                  Server - Bahamut | Nationality - San d'Orian | Rank - 9 | Jobs - 75 BLM/74 SMN

                  Crafts-
                  Fishing 100+ - Woodworking 80 - Cooking 35
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                  • #10
                    Kimba and Nodoka hit the nail on the head. While hume aren't always the best choice for a specific class, you can play any class without a detriment as them. Try being taken seriously as a taru war or galka blm. Not gonna happen. Hume can do anything decently well though.

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                    • #11
                      some people might see a taru warrior, and say no way. and not invite them to party.

                      same thing with a galka blm.

                      as a hume you can play any job and i doubt that would ever happen.


                      Sometimes i wish i was a taru for better mp converts as rdm. but i think i farm better as a hume.

                      I think for the most part though, im happy as a hume.

                      | 75 rdm | 57 war | 58 blm | 37 thf | 37 whm | 37 nin | 37 drk | 18 mnk |

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                      • #12
                        If you were to factor in each of the downs, as well as the ups, you'd see that Humes have no downs. You can't compare one stat to a stat of one race, and then another stat to the stat of another race.

                        As you level you can get equips to raise stats, so he who has the best stats is he who afford them.

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                        • #13
                          Besides for the absolute extremes (Galka SMN, WHM or Taru PLD, they work, but not really), how "good" that any race is at any job, is NOT based on your stats.

                          It isn't. Stats only make it easier. The skill of the player is what counts. Sure, Taru BLM may have a ton of MP, but guess what? It doesn't do them any good to use too much of it because then they go splat. Humes are middle of the road. If you are a good player, then Hume keeps every door open for you.

                          If you are looking for versatility, you want to be a Hume. Mithra is an excellent choice as well... they can even tank! (Blink tank that is )

                          Believe it or not, Squenix did an excellent job balancing out the races. I second guessed them myself until I started playing.

                          One thing you have to remember, chances are even if you get to 70+ with one job, you will wind up wanting to start up another. If you go Hume, you can't go wrong.

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                          • #14
                            Just cause I keep hearing about mithra having terrible MND - it really doesn't matter. My cures are always capped, which seems to be the real benefit of MND, to not mention there is a ton of MND gear out there for pretty cheap. So yeah, us mithra are awesome at everything! :spin:
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                            • #15
                              Django subbed whm and cured for around 31 with Cure. Plain 'ole cure. Sometimes for 32, but rarely. I had always thought the cap was 30.

                              He is human.

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