EQ sucks compaired to FFXI

[JohnDragon]

I was at my friends house the day after i got my ps2 game and he said that EQ was better. YA WRIGHT it sukes i was playing it the game looks like mud it just sucks i ran out of his house like that and logged on asap. I pushed that game out of my mind for good.


PS: I was trying to deside wat game to play FFXI or EQ im so glad i piked FFXI.

[Chaotixx0]

you are very wise grasshoppa

[Tukka]

I was at my friends house the day after i got my ps2 game and he said that EQ was better. YA WRIGHT it sukes i was playing it the game looks like mud it just sucks i ran out of his house like that and logged on asap. I pushed that game out of my mind for good.

Right, because you can really get the essence of a MMO in a single play session...

At the moment I prefer Final Fantasy XI. I think it has a lot more potential than EverQuest... it has more charm and style and some interesting elements of gameplay, along with better graphics in general.

There are some things I prefer about EverQuest... a lot. Final Fantasy XI has some glaring flaws that often makes playing it a simply frustrating experience.

It breaks down like this... Final Fantasy XI has more "Wow, that's cool" moments for me, but it also has a lot more "Arrrgh! I hate this game!" moments. A lot of those frustrating elements have me seriously contemplating quitting FF11 after only about two months of play.

Then again, I quit playing EQ after only two months (though that was back when the game was in what I think was a much more primitive state than it is now) only to eventually come back and play for years.

I guess what I'm saying is, Final Fantasy XI is great for such a young game, but there is enormous room for improvement and I'm hoping it will continue to improve. Final Fantasy XI is definitely a better game than EverQuest was a launch (even putting aside graphics), but EQ has been been refined and improved in many ways over the years... but you can only improve something so much before you have to scrap it and start over to make it any better.

[Thoronas]

Young game? It's been out in Japan for almost 2 years. :sweat:

[Tukka]

Yep, young game. 2 years isn't that long a time. EverQuest is something like 5 years old now, and it's come a long way in the past 3 years.

Plus, some of the game's problems that I allude to have as much to do with the player community as the game itself. The North American player community of FF11 is much less experienced than the player community of EQ, so in that respect the game is "younger" too, to a great degree.

[Grizzlebeard]

Re: EQ sucks compaired to FFXI

Originally posted by JohnDragon
PS: I was trying to deside wat game to play FFXI or EQ im so glad i piked FFXI.

Anyone who's punctuation, spelling and composition is so jaw-droppingly impressive surely merits the highest credibility as a games reviewer.

The biggest problem I think most new players would have starting EQ now is it is indeed a five year old game, it celebrated its anniversary recently. As such, it is essentially a high level game now and the majority of the people playing it are 50+. Max level in game is 65th and most of the people I know are there now or pretty close. Most people at the earlier levels in EQ now are shameless twinks and I think SOE lost sight of low end game content because they were forced to cater more and more to the people at the other end of the level range. I can't comment on endgame content in FFXI because I'm not there yet, however, EQ has very good high end content. The only problem is, after you essentially beat each expansion the requirements to do so in future ones just become more and more tedious and key camping and flagging (and backflagging and more backflagging and yet more backflagging /weep) take a great chunk of the fun out the game. Ultimately it becomes a gear quest for most and some few people still get a kick out of beating a boss mob as well. It's the nature of the beast though, MMORPGS are designed to make the playerbase want to pump as much of their time in as possible and if you're not up to that then you will quit in short order.

Graphically, FFXI beats EQ hands down. Dynamically EQ positively makes FFXI look like a kid's game though. Additionally, I really miss my UI skins from EQ because the one text window, kitsch spell icons and inability to go into windows mode are really starting to wear thin.

[Masaharu]

My 2 cents...

Two biggest problems I personally have with FFXI - gil has too much impact on the game, and lack of high end content. At the very least in EQ, once you hit level 65 you can raid high level mobs to advance your character. There's a huge difference between a level 65 character in NToV gear and PoTime gear.

In FFXI, such accomplishments are diminished because the majority of gear out there can be sold at AH, so essentially you can buy your way to the top. We're starting to see some more high end content to differentiate between level 75 characters, but until more content is added, you're basically left with gil determining your character.

Right now, from playing FFXI the goal for me is to grind to 75, farm gil, and such. Killing HNMs is only a method to earn more gil. The only equipment that really sets characters apart are the Uncursed armors and to a lesser extent, relic armors. It gets dull after a while, especially when there isn't too much at end game to motivate you.

That being said, FFXI does get a lot right - I love the search comments and colours because you can immediately tell who's already in a PT, who the leader is, and so on. You can also cycle through targets; EQ doesn't have either of these features creating some minor annoyances.

[Thoronas]

After reading some high level players journals (coughRusstacough) I have noticed there is a fair bit of armour I just wasn't aware of because it's non-tradeable meaning it can't be sold at AH. I don't hear much about this gear and I imagine not many other NA payers know about it either but in a lot of cases it's quite good.

My friend is a lvl 62 blm and he has a shaman's cloak which I gotta say is better then the blm af armour. It's rare/ex so you don't see it at the AH but it kicks ass. There is a lot of equipment out there and too many NA players assume they know it all because they read some databases that are half complete. I was like that and am still quite ignorant but I like finding out about new gear and know there is lots more of it to discover. As well as a great story and other things.

This game is very, very deep and has a lot you can discover in it. Most people discover not even 50% and assume they know it all because it's the same 50% everyone else always rags on about. But there is much more. :spin:

[kainzero]

i heard EQ had a really good community which would be a definite plus.

as opposed to FFXI... which is filled with lots of NA/JP hate and racism, crappy PTs almost everywhere you go, everyone always whining about the other person when they're not even that good themselves and stuff.

i've probably met like, 3-4 new people that were really cool.

oh well, i'm LS-less now...

oh yeah. I don't think EQ had retarded level cap quests =P

[sagitta85]

Originally posted by kainzero
i heard EQ had a really good community which would be a definite plus.

as opposed to FFXI... which is filled with lots of NA/JP hate and racism, crappy PTs almost everywhere you go, everyone always whining about the other person when they're not even that good themselves and stuff.

i've probably met like, 3-4 new people that were really cool.

oh well, i'm LS-less now...

oh yeah. I don't think EQ had retarded level cap quests =P

Must be a bad server.

I met many people that were friendly and helpful, NA and JP alike. Rarely I will have a bad time with someone, but thats the way it is.

If your nice to them, they'll be nice to you.

[dragoon]

There is a qoute about what people like in genral

"to each there own"

[thebizzy]

Yes, EQ uses very very old technology and should've died long ago,but the community keeps it alive. FFXI is really new and should be much higher than EQ, if it hasn't already. Sony was looking to shut down EQ servers, but it would lose too many subscribers so they're trying to consolidate them soon to convert ppl to EQ2

[Sylvanis]

i'll probably get hammered for this but oh well. eq in it's prime is a lot better then ffxi will ever be in my opinion. a lot of it has to do with the community. i just don't like the ffxi community, no offense to y'all. there are just way too many rotten eggs in the pack sort of speak. if/when i move to wow, i'm sure wow will have a worst community then this one

gms are incredibly leniant in this game too. one time i saw two people having an argument via shout. oh sure they could have taken it to tells but no. i'm sure like half the zone petitioned them but their shoutings continued. i'm not even sure if they were warned for that stuff either. other then spamming, these shouts were incredibly vulgar and it shouldn't have been tolerated.

this game has a hard time weeding out the noobs (again, no offensive). it takes a long time for people to figure out how to play their classes correctly. at around level 50 or so, that is when a lot of the noobs are weeded out (either quit or learn how to play correclty). i just refuse to believe there are blms at level 50 that just simply go down the list of their spells getting a ton of aggro.

and although this has been beaten to death with a stick, i believe og eq had more mobs then ffxi+zilart. if not, eq+kunark has more mobs then ffxi+zilart.

i could go on and go on but i'll stop there.

simply put, i'm having trouble logging on this game now. the game lost it's charm on me. i dun think it'll be long before i cancel my account sadly.

[thebizzy]

Yes, EQ in its prime is better than any other MMORPG can get pretty much since only dedicated players were playing, but with this new decade, people are turning to MMORPGs for entertainment. FFXI community is different from EQ by far. FFXI is mostly kids , compared to the EQ of mostly 30+. You can pretty much tell the difference by the horrible spelling, bad grammar, massive cursing in FFXI. FFXI doesn't compare to EQ and is much simpler to play, which is one of the reasons i play it. EQ took too much effort to me, but the community was better than any i've been in.

personalyl, they should not be compared. EQ ruled the first generation of MMORPGs and enough should be said. Comparing EQ to FFXI is like comparing Final fantasy 1 with final fantasy 10.

[hogarth]

Surely FFXI, is in the first stages still, though its been out 2 years i think because of th major new releases such as the recent PS2 release in the US it causes a small tremor and things need to settle again.

Havin not received my HDD yet i cant comment on the community but, i agree because of its aim to younger console gamers then you cant keep comparing it to EQ.

This is Square's first real MMORPG they need are help to build the community and keep the game a great place, from reading the comments above i think people want it to be more like EQ with high end graphics. This wont happen this is a FF game and thats the way it should stay.

The mentions of people causing problems i cant comment on too much but im sure these must be isolated cases which such a huge community.

Im also sure, this is a guess that about 1/3 of the community dont even post on this great forum and to be fair theres probably some great players out there we have yet to meet.