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    I know another topic was closed, but I want to get the names of anyone interested in a new link shell. I think one side has a valid point to make, and I don't see why it's not fair for the people who agree with a new LS to make a new one. Also, come up with some names and colors you would like to see used. If you don't want to be part of this, fine; but we don't want to hear it here.

    So, this forum will be ONLY for people who agree with this, and that's completely valid. So, no flaming. If you want to be apart of this, lets organize it and do it right. Here's a post i made awhile ago in the old thread, but it never made it up b/c it was closed before I could send it:

    I'm totally with you on this Seymour.
    When I first started out on FFXI last year, the best part of it was meeting people and playing with people who shared my interests. I remember meeting Abknight in Windurst after running there from SandOria. It's things like that that we'll remember 5 years from now. I don't remember what quests I did, or who I waved ambiguously to as I ran back to the city. What I will remember are the people I met, and the fun I had with them.

    Basically, I think it's totally rational to have an LS for importers. With me, I have a hard time playing the game because of class, and I would love to be able to sign on and ask some fellow importers if they'd like to PT with me. Also, it can sometimes get lonely playing by yourself. Laugh, but we all know it's true. One of the beauties of Final Fantasy XI is the cooperation and the small community that is built around the game. We all remember how hard it was when we first started out, and the LS would be a huge service to newcomers. But, even more than that, it's a service to us players who have put in tons of hours to get to our level 60. We want to share the moment with our friends, and it's totally acceptable to make an LS where we can do that. No one should sit back and say, "well, that's just like NG" because it shouldn't be BASED off of NG. NG failed; learn from their mistakes. Many people have matured in the world of FFXI, and the game isn't so new to them. It's very likely that they'll stay away from spamming the chat b/c they know it's not appropiate. Also, if you don't want to be a part of it, then fine. However, there are tons of people who would love to join this. FFXI is a social game, and in order to be social you need to have people to socialize with. Many of us don't have the time or resources to meet tons of great players and befriend them. It sometimes helps to have someone in the middle.

    I, for one, would love to be a part of this new LS and would love to see someone like PiNG make it and establish it as THE import LS. Maybe even name it "The Importer's Haven"? Something like that. Many of us will be on our own smaller LS's, but it'd be a huge help to have one basic one join us all in the huge community that we call Vana Diel. If you don't agree with it, fine. You didn't like NG? Fine. Instead of complaining about the past, however, we should look at why it was a problem and how we can fix it. Simply complaining and not offering any suggestions is counterproductive and should be posted in a different thread. Seymour didn't ask what was wrong with NG, nor should he have to hear about it. This thread is meant to look at a problem and solve it, not ramble on and cry about the problem but offer no solutions. I think Seymour has the right idea with this all and I hope that it will go forward in a way that it benefits all importers. Thank you, Seymour, for addressing a problem that is in the minds of many players.

    ~Ethos

  • #2
    We all knew that when NeoG broke, Elite made Legion. People just thought "oh, Legion is just NeoG all over again" but if you actually had the patience to go on there, you would notice that all the "annoying newbies" have grown up now and have as much sense as me now (hehe, don?ft know if that?fs a good thing or not). God knows how many people have joined Ragnarok ever since NeoG broke. I wouldn't mind meeting these new people and boosting up my 2 hour tutorials again (sorry Terianstar, I think you are too high level to be issued one of my tutorials now :sweat: )

    Im in on the LS idea. This LS shouldn?ft be about certain members, it should be about all importers. Yeah we know some people don't want in and that is their choice but there is nothing wrong with a large importer LS. The LS should be like a second ffxionline forum. I don't see the harm in that in any way. Sure some people can't stand each other. I know, I can't stand a few people myself. I don't see why people think a new import LS would be NeoG all over again. For some reason, Ragnarok server just got like 100 new importers in like 3 months and that was sorta a little insane. Before we would get 3-4 new people EVERYday on NeoG. Guess what? It's not like that anymore. We get like 1 new member every few weeks now probably.

    We don't have a giant mass of spamish newbies anymore to ruin any new LS. Just think of the new people. Practically the only LS's they can get on are really private ones with small amounts of people. These small amounts of people may not be enough for them. These people might not know some advanced Japanese questions they ask. And I don?ft even possibly seeing an importer PT unless we had an import LS. When NeoG was around, there was importer PT's ALL the time. Now I haven?ft seen once in months. We know it would probably be even easier to make more importer PT's as well since we have even more members than we did before.

    Most new people come onto this game to play with English speaking people, not to go to a LS with 6 people with levels completely different from each other and just be stuck with Japanese PTs forever. You can?ft just get a new member on here and just stick him with the same 5-6 people or so forever. They need to meet new people and I don?ft see how that is possible without an all importer LS. Sure, those 5-6 might be perfect for them. It's worked with RoD and Interiatic so far.

    If someone makes the LS like me or Ethos, it?fs probably not going to work. We need a higher leader to take charge like Ping. Why not make a LS on ffxi like a second ffxionline.com forum? Moderators can be LS runners, that is fine. I find that fair. The problem that most people see with a new importer LS is just a big spamish infesto but it?fs not about being on a LS, it?fs about information, new members, friends, a community. Sure, I think the new LS could be controlled pretty well with the moderators we have now. People won?ft be able to say any of their stupid opinions anymore because some of the great moderator leaders we have now on this forum will just rat them out anyway and make them look like stupid white crackers anyway and make them quit. Some of them are very good at what they do. Pure proof from this forum. I wish they were on NeoG when we started to get a lot of new members.
    Maybe we would still have NeoG today. Who knows?c.

    Who cares if people hate each other, this isn?ft about you, it?fs about everyone. As people like to point out from time to time, it?fs just a video game. If you hate someone you?fve never met in real life. That is really lame. It?fs like Internet dating with someone you?fve never seen once in your life. You don?ft put hateful emotions to people who just type to you. As far as you know, that big bad bitch might just be some little middle school white boy cracker who weighs 60 pounds, wears big glasses, and has no friends and wears tighty whitey and still gets tucked into his bed by mommy every night.

    Ok, off topic again?cIm for the new LS. We need you for once Ping. I?fve only seen you twice ever since ive had this game. You brought A LOT of people into this game and it would be very pleasant if we could get everyone in this forum together in the game.~

    For my ideas the leader should be Ping. Just cause Ping is the leader, doesn't mean he has to devote his time at all to this LS. It's just that no one will probably take it serious if he isn?ft the one that made it. Just call the LS "ffxionline" and have what ever color. I don't know, the color scheme here seems to be a baby blue or a white so I wouldn't mind.

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    • #3
      Yeah, I agree Seymour.

      So, what do you all think of FFXIOnline as the name of the shell? I don't mind it at all


      I was just talking to Gatts (abknight) in game and he suggested naming the LS "HappyFunRainbowFriends"

      I think it has a nice ring to it...haha

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      • #4
        THIS IS NOT A FLAME THIS IS NOT A FLAME THIS IS NOT A FLAME THIS IS NOT A FLAME THIS IS NOT A FLAME

        I just wanted to point out to you this is a public forum. You really have no right decreeing any one thread "BOYZ ONLY" or something equally exclusive.

        If you post something on this board it is public domain. I fully endorse flame-free threads (hell, that last one was flame free until people started RUNNING AT THE MOUTH) but if you're really interested in making some new hi-powa ls without a whisper of dissent, please take it to the street !
        Kirie

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        • #5
          Ping may have brought some of you into this game, but he owes you NOTHING.

          Putting this on his shoulders is ridiculously as unfair as creating an "US ONLY" thread.

          If you want to create an LS, just do it on your own!

          Who cares if people hate each other, this isn?ft about you, it?fs about everyone. As people like to point out from time to time, it?fs just a video game. If you hate someone you?fve never met in real life. That is really lame. It?fs like Internet dating with someone you?fve never seen once in your life. You don?ft put hateful emotions to people who just type to you. As far as you know, that big bad bitch might just be some little middle school white boy cracker who weighs 60 pounds, wears big glasses, and has no friends and wears tighty whitey and still gets tucked into his bed by mommy every night.
          Who are you talking to?

          Isn't this a thread for people who agree with you?

          Then why are you writing this trife NOT-TARGETTED TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR BUT THOSE WHO DISAGREE bullshit.

          BTW you think *I* hate you still because I disagree? Well I must somehow be that egotistical model, as you may think. Ask your good friend Ceis if he thinks that.
          RageOfDark & Rinoa.Nu

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          • #6
            yaya!

            lol this is really pretty funny, Well, here goes.

            I was cleaning the cat litter box, ( LOL go figure ) and I was thinking on the topic of Seymour starting an LS. I was like "Hmm...maybe it should be called FFXIOnline or something..." Then I read Ethos post, where he had the exact same name as I came up with, lol, just felt like posting that.


            On another note...

            Seymoure / Ethos, I fully support your idea, and will do WHATEVER I can do to help, please dont hesitate to ask for my help to turn this dream into reality. ^^ Cant wait!!!


            ~Soniti


            Bastok: Rank 6 ?

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            • #7
              Re: New Importer Link Shell

              [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ethos
              So, this forum will be ONLY for people who agree with this, and that's completely valid. So, no flaming. If you want to be apart of this, lets organize it and do it right. Here's a post i made awhile ago in the old thread, but it never made it up b/c it was closed before I could send it:

              Hey Sheila and Kirie I have an idea, maybe you should start to listen for once instead of putting in your two senses about everything you disagree on. I even put some rules on my last thread as well but of course you two didn't listen again. This topic wasn?ft made for your opinions to disagree on. If you really care so much about the problem with RoD and the whole issue we had with the last post then just PM me about it. Don't ruin this thread. So far everyone is agreeing so far except you too (gee, I wonder if that was going to happen or not)

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              • #8
                Haha, you can't make people not go to a thread, retard.
                Squirming through cuts in a throat
                cut it...cut it...

                Cedric - WHM63/ PLD52/ MNK43/ BLM31/ WAR27/ THF16/ BST13/ SMN10/ RDM05/ RNG05/ DRK05

                Archaon - THF35/ WHM34/ RDM32/ BLM17/ MNK14/ NIN10/ BST10/ RNG06/ WAR05

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                • #9
                  I think their point is that you can't just start a thread saying "No one is allowed to disagree" on a public board and expect everyone to comply.

                  [edit] lmao, what Cedric said.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Re: New Importer Link Shell

                    Originally posted by Seymour
                    maybe you should start to listen for once [/B]
                    I read it loud and clear, you wanted to put an indirect flame towards anyone who disagreed, without letting them reply back.
                    RageOfDark & Rinoa.Nu

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kirie
                      THIS IS NOT A FLAME THIS IS NOT A FLAME THIS IS NOT A FLAME THIS IS NOT A FLAME THIS IS NOT A FLAME

                      I just wanted to point out to you this is a public forum. You really have no right decreeing any one thread "BOYZ ONLY" or something equally exclusive.

                      If you post something on this board it is public domain. I fully endorse flame-free threads (hell, that last one was flame free until people started RUNNING AT THE MOUTH) but if you're really interested in making some new hi-powa ls without a whisper of dissent, please take it to the street !
                      You cannot make rules for a public forum.

                      You are a poster.

                      Not a moderator.

                      Not an admin.

                      You're free to make thread after thread about whatever you want.

                      But you cannot stop other people from posting in it, even if they have things to say you don't agree with.

                      I will again, quote from a previous post:

                      You know, I fail to see how RoD has... ANYTHING to do with this. Actually, wait, lemme think.

                      It has nothing to do with this!

                      Just because I happen to be on the same linkshell you're on ingame doesn't mean I'm going to pussyfoot about things. (Oh no, here comes the brigade going, WHAT A BITCH!) I prefer to-the-point honesty. There's no need for all this frivolous shit. A linkshell is a group of people who happen to be in near-contant communication with you ingame. I, personally, don't know you from Adam. Hell, I haven't even played recently, so I haven't even seen you on the ls.

                      I really wish you would stop bring up RoD, period, because this isn't the issue. If you want to make a stink, take it up with me as ME, not the linkshell I'm in.
                      Kirie

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                      • #12
                        Just PM me pls. Don?ft ruin this thread.

                        EDIT: You all did make a good point actually, this is a public forum and you should post what ever you want. If you wanted to disagree then you got your chance on your last thread. Ethos just wanted to see who did agree. Stop repeated the course of history, you know it won?ft end in a good way so why go there?

                        EDIT2: When I refer to RoD I refer to you 2, no one else on that LS.

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                        • #13
                          lol. Is it just me or does Kirie and Sheila REALLY have some attitude?

                          Ethos clearly announces that this is only for people interested in this, and you still have to voice your hostile comments.

                          What "moderators" you are.....

                          Grow up and learn some proper manners - (i.e. be nice to fellow players, say goodbye when leaving PT, and don't look down on people if they are "unskilled" in this game than you are).

                          With your expertise in this game, you could be much more enjoyable and resourceful members of our importer community if you just RELAXED a little and learn to have fun.
                          Buttermilk - Lv70RNG (2003.3 ~ 2004.3)
                          Shaia - Lv61PLD (2002.6 ~ 2003.3)
                          - R.I.P. -

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                          • #14
                            No, you're not the only one who feels like that at all. Moderators are here to keep the peace, not disturb it. You're allowed to have opinions like everyone else, but you should try a great deal harder to communicate those opinions in a diplomatic way.
                            RDM70 | BLM37 | WHM18 | BST12

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                            • #15
                              No, it's not just you. Tee hee.

                              We have horrible attitude problems and should be sent to boot camp for troubled teens.

                              What qualities would you like better in a moderator?

                              Someone who grins and goes "you crazy kids~~~?"

                              I'm not allowed to have my own opinion because I'm a moderator?

                              I don't shut threads that aren't out of hand because I don't agree with the opinions therein. I don't abuse my power. I don't do anything I shouldn't. Being an effective moderator doesn't mean you have to simper and kowtow to everyone else. "Dimplomacy," is an option. I choose my own form. It may be blunt and you may think I'm a really big bitch. I know who I am. I call it like I see it.
                              Kirie

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