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  • Gilseller Solution

    Last night (Thursday night) I saw the same gilsellers farming the same goobbues in Zitah, while listening to reports of gilsellers camping NMs all over the place. After hearing that a gilseller was holding ownership of the morion worm to drive the AH price up on the tathlum, I lost my temper a bit. I called a GM immediately, even though everyone said they would just tell me there was nothing they can do about it and I would be banned if I called them more than once. I was contacted by a GM, who, after I told him how fed up I was, informed me that he plays FFXI on a different server and was also really irritated about the gilseller situation. His suggestion to me, which makes a whole lot of sense, was to bypass
    the GMs. They don't hold the power in the game. He suggested we use the POL support system and get EVERYONE we know to send emails complaining about how the gilsellers ruin the game. Think of it as a petition. He said the POL support emails actually go to SE, whereas the GM calls end at the GMs. If we get enough people to send these emails, maybe they will take notice. PLEASE send an email, preferably one every day (even if it's just a copy of the same email each day) to let them know how much we hate these gilsellers. Things you can include in the email:

    *Driving AH prices up so noone can afford the gear they need
    *MPKing people with their pulls to ensure they can claim the NMs
    *Holding ownership of NMs to keep others from getting the item
    *Preventing other people from farming items to afford gear they will ACTUALLY USE
    *Include any personal stories you can think of (hell, make one up, if you wish) on how these gilsellers ruin the game for you and your friends

    You might even want to remind them that World of Warcraft is about to go gold, as well as mentioning the recent release of Everquest 2. If SE believes the gilsellers will cause them to lose more accounts than they are paying for, SE will be forced to do something. Afterall, MONEY is the problem for us, so let's show them that it could turn into THEIR problem, too!

    The email support can be found after logging in to POL and selecting Final Fantasy XI. Go into "Service and Support", select Support, then "E-mail support". It will ask you what category you want the email classified as. I suggest putting it in as a "Problem report" to get it some much needed attention. TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS!

  • #2
    Reposting same reply to same post from allakhazam.

    I've had my share of dealing with gilsellers, its not so much the people who PLAY the game and sell gil that make me mad, its the ones who will camp the same thing 24/7 and will do anything they can to keep it that way for them.
    Examples..
    I've noticed lsfallenangel and some other ls newb camping Goobues by Boyahde entrance for couple days 'straight', i'm sure if you do a /sea all ls, you'll see some the same 1-3 people still doing there.
    Also, Logitech's gil seller LS that camps Amemit 24/7, I've known a couple people who used to farm Amemit as their only income, its now ruined.
    Morion worm has also been claimed for a few hours so no one else has claimed, and I've noticed some person named 'Chinesegirl' that has been in Korroloka everytime i've searched and the last few times I've leveled jobs there.
    Phantom worm isn't so often as camped, but once they roll in they like to MPK people who farm fairly and steal the worm if it goes gold, and they like to steal the Devil Manta from people who spend hours trying to fish it up for the drop.

    Out of the people on Ragnarok logged in, I'm sure 5-10+% are gilsellers.

    Make SE do something about these losers.
    Complaint email sent.

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    • #3
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      • #4
        this suggestion/solution can apply to all servers, not just ragnarok ^^

        i hope that se replies or takes action to this... "disease" that has infected every single server.

        finally, please don't b*tch about it possibly not working, stuff about "leave the gilsellers alone", and making the same replies that people say whenever there is a gilseller topic.

        imo, this is a ray of hope that we all need right now and those of us who like ffxi hope that it actually works.
        observe the splendor of ping pong balls!

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        • #5
          Bit tired now, but tomorrow i'll be on this fo sho. We seriously have to try and do somthing, it's already goten out of control, and it's not like it's just on our server. Thanks for the heads up on this, i'll work on spreading the word as well.

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          • #6
            Atm the only thing pissing me off is the price of Archer's Rings. A few days they were about 700k. NOW they are already 800k. Wtf? I was happy when I bought mine for 450k but thats really bs.
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            • #7
              Ochi's Kote is 750k+ Now...was 300k ish a few months ago

              Let's MPK!
              RDM75| DRG75

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              • #8
                I'll help...Xyph send me a POL msg if your doing this...I'll train a whole zone..dont really care anymore.
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                • #9
                  I checked the AH one day ago and there were 55 Amemet skins for sale.. I've never seen that many for sale.

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                  • #10
                    Every time I camp a NM or try to make some form of profit in this game, I get pissed off and talk to a GM at some point. Examples in the last little while.

                    - Goobue Farming
                    - Kote Mob
                    - People I know getting MPK'd by Logitech and co. (And friends getting temp-ban for doing it back..wtf?)

                    And last but not least the whore of all NM's Argus. Yes, I know its camped to hell and has *always* been hard to get claim, but an event that happened the other day, REALLY pissed me off, to the point of literally harassing a GM for being so ignorant and stupid.
                    What happened at Argus was - Me and a friend were camping it, no turbo-controller bullshit, no bots, no BS, just legit trying to claim it. Anyways, Argus pops shortly after we arrive, ok fair enough...But wait, why is the person (name Rofma) who claimed running into a wall, and turning around in circles..The guy who claimed its bot went out of whack, he was running around into walls constantly and Argus never went un-claimed from him (Which is the biggest piss off in the world, why can someone hold claim on a mob and NOT be doing anything?) he provoked it every so often when it tried to move away too, while still running into a wall. About an hour later Argus killed him, and JUST as he was going to come unclaimed, this bastard botter named Buda/Kullhorn ran to it and haxed the shit out of it claiming before it even changed colors.

                    People I hate who are Botters/Gil sellers who should be killed irl.

                    Clan #1.
                    Vivianky, Rasalasa, Vamieok, Villok and a bunch of other retards who I forget the name of. These guys are in the same party 24/7 and used to farm Goobues literally every single day nonstop and ruined farming there for a long time. Someone I know actually made friends with one of them, and he admitted him and his friends sell gil and he lives in a 3rd world country or something.

                    Clan #2.
                    Hpc & Logitech with Empire crew...Nuff said.

                    Clan #3.
                    Desay, Cslfjalfjgurl,Yamade...... These guys camp Kote 24/7 and train and try to MPK or piss people off constantly.

                    Botting Bastards -

                    Buda/Kullhorn/Lubu (All the same person)
                    Rofma,and practically everyone at Argus or any other NM.

                    Basically this is just a big ass rant, but also some information about who these people are. Also, I see people cry and complain about Nozokimi and Pasco almost all the time though, which is starting to piss me off. "NON SELLING TELEPORTERS ONRY PLZ", come on, there's worse things on the server than 2 people who actually *Serve a purpose* and help people by teleporting, no matter what they are doing with the money they make. People should give them a break imo. Really, if you ever need a teleport who can you depend on to be there? Nozo and Pasco are always there =/ . These people should be the least of our worries. I dont necessarily agree with what they are doing, but I think we should try to put a stop to people listed above, first and foremost.

                    /end rant

                    sent complaint thing.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Marijuana
                      Buda/Kullhorn

                      Buda???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Isn't that the guy that camped Deggi for some few months and only got one drop and almost every pop claim. I had quite a few convos with this guy. He lives in Hong Kong with a T3 connection if I remember correctly. I camped with him a bunch of times.....He said he doesn't bot..uses a controller and does F8 then voke macro. Just FYI..>.>
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by John Doe III
                        Buda???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Isn't that the guy that camped Deggi for some few months and only got one drop and almost every pop claim. I had quite a few convos with this guy. He lives in Hong Kong with a T3 connection if I remember correctly. I camped with him a bunch of times.....He said he doesn't bot..uses a controller and does F8 then voke macro. Just FYI..>.>
                        One of the gil sellers with high level jobs (I think he's the one holding the whip) is called Lubu. The other day in our LS Meph was telling us how his friend Lubu recently got two Peacock Charms and how they used to camp Mededge together back in the day. We let him know gently that Lubu is indeed a head gil seller, possibly one of the owners sponging off of his workers labour. True story!
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                        • #13
                          NO ITS NOT...


                          ok maybe it is. Lubu and Buda are the same person. He fucking -sucked- at MDP, but hes gotten 2 peacock charms, dunno wtf is up with that. He actually levels on Lubu as well hes like mnk64 war55.

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                          • #14
                            I can confirm all of this. Iv known Buda since he was a low level dragoon, and we were friends. Then he disapeared for a looong time, and apparently started leveling other characters (Kullhorn/Lubu) and started talking to me recently. Zandria, he told me that as well when I saw him at Deggi, but...The other day I WITNESSED his bot, and I can confirm 100% that he does.

                            He has the bot that Provokes at like 30times/second, automatically has set things to do in battle, like WS at 100%, and also right after the mob is dead it executes /logout. Saw this like 2 days ago, also tried talking to him while I was there and no reply.

                            O yeah, hes made about roughly 20 Million off Argus in the last little while, hes there every spawn with 2 characters. Unless he is an octopus, or some type of freak of nature with 4 arms (Like say..Goro) he could not possibly control 2 characters at the same time like he does.

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                            • #15
                              Ragnarok sucks
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