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  • AA EV... impossible without gravity marathon?

    Title says it... This fight is so fucking disgusting it invoked nightmares about various strange things. Back to the point... I'm told the strategy to do this is to gravity marathon, which I personally don't see the practicality in. First off, she's not "hard" in the usual sense... her normal attacks are weak, her defense isn't that high (contrary to the popular belief, 75's can knock her HP down quite easily), etc... There is one and only one thing that makes this fight hard, and that's The Spirits Within.

    I'm sorry, but anything that does a 3240 non-physical reduceable, non-blinkable, non-elemental, 100% hit death move is just fucking gay. Also, apparently her spirits is, unlike that of PCs, not dependent on her HP, as it still did over 3000 to us with only 1/5 of her HP remaining. I'm led to believe that this fight is purely based on luck, and that if she uses spirits on you, you lose, and if not, you win.

    First of all, I see marathoning for things like king behemoth who hit too hard on a regular basis for you to tank, or with those monster WS's that require charging times that you can run away from and cancel out.... which does NOT work with WS's that trigger the second you're within striking range. When gravity wear's off, there's got to be a split second before it's recast, and in terms of monsters in pursuit in a BC, that's usually enough time for them to close in the distance and perform one action. Considering it has auto-meditate TP and probably has 300% TP saved up by then, there's no doubt that she's gonna try to fire off that death wave the second gravity wears off... Thereby killing off your tank and sending your boss fight on the path to hell. Given you're lucky, she won't spirits you again until after your tank recovers from weakness. Given you're not, you all DC from the BC, reraise, and try again.

    It's arguable that she WS's less often because she won't be able to come in contact that much. However, marathoning makes the fight a lot longer, thereby giving her much more time to use more WS's... so I'd say in the end it evens out.

    Gravity or not, it seems to me that luck is the determining factor in this fight... Given you can marathon and kill her extremely quickly with a setup of PLD RDM BLM BLM RNG BRD... how gay is that? What's the fucking point if you can only do this with certain jobs?

    All ranting aside, has anyone ever done it without gravity marathon before? The group I went with doesn't have a RDM, and being all at the same "incomplete stage" of this mission, I'd like to do it again with the same group (PLD DRK SAM BLM WHM BRD) so that no one is left out... I suppose I could always just do that marathon shit with a different setup, but personally I feel that running behind something like a fag and banging it in the ass is the gayest thing in the world.
    DRK75 / THF37 / WAR37 / RDM60 / BLM31 / PLD11

    ohnoez

  • #2
    Lol.. I hope Im not the only one that feels square has made certain things in this game too limited in the amount of ways you can do them? Bcnm`s (40`s specifically) for example... it is impossible to win without a brd or 4-5 bsts.

    I`ve only completed up to ZM4, but Ive been looking ahead to what we have to do, and when me and my friend learned that one of the AA`s had spirits within, we we like ............................ I dont see how else you could safely beat it without a gravity marathon, but even then it`s not that safe.. Ive heard of it being done before though, so dont give up Awn.

    What really scares me is the new quest that you have to fight all 5 AA`s at once :sweat:

    Btw Awn, a little off topic but.. I recently acquired enough money to afford haubergeon, as well as an amemet mantle.. but which do you think is better, the amemet or behemoth mantle?

    Finished with lvling bst to 40 crap, now onward to 75 XD
    ガラス張り

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    • #3
      Offtopic.
      DRKs need ACC so go with Amemit.
      Ontopic.
      Since they added resistance its harder to marathon stuff now so its probably harder doing that now. Seems like its based on luck as you say unless if you go with 1 tank 1 brd and the rest are dmg dealers that nuke thru the battle

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      • #4
        Er, Amemit mantle is Str+1, Attack+10, Ranged attack+10

        Behemoth mantle is Hp+20, Attack+5

        Neither give Acc+ :sweat:


        *Edit* Btw Awn, you said nothing can reduce the damage from spirits within, is that including invincible? I know it would be kinda useless since she would use it instantly at a random time, but if you do do the gravity marathon and your pld is quick enough, he can activate it before the AA gets within reach after gravity wears off..just a thought
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        • #5
          im guessing u will still get hit by spirits with invincible on... invincible doesnt negate everything... unless they changed it in a patch...

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          • #6
            How to beat AAEV without getting killed for IDIOTS:

            1. Use bind or gravity constantly
            2. Frontliner takes target, others NUKE with magic, avatar attack etc.
            3. If the target taker is good enough, Spirit Within will fail
            to execute due to range.
            4. Repeat 1 until EV is defeated.

            Reccomended PT: PLD, NIN, BLM, BLM, SMN, RDM or BRD

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            • #7
              So What you're saying, as I gather, is that yes, it's impossible ;P
              Gatts - PLD75/WAR37
              and you call your self a canadian

              PiNG broke my sig and all I got was this T-shirt.

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              • #8
                Re: AA EV... impossible without gravity marathon?

                Originally posted by Awntawn
                First off, she's not "hard" in the usual sense... her normal attacks are weak, her defense isn't that high
                Believe it or not, all AA's attack power were toned down in a previous patch.

                But yes, it is impossible :p And of course, you can also have your whm and blm level a rdm subjob to be able to use gravity

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                • #9
                  what about the AA alliance battle ><
                  RageOfDark & Rinoa.Nu

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                  • #10
                    For the alliance battle, you need not one, not two, not three...

                    but 4 people who can use gravity

                    But then, all the rest of the alliance can bomb out each AA dynamis style. :sweat:

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                    • #11
                      Believe it or not, her WS's got cancelled quite a few times when sam was marathoning(even without gravity) but got hit with spirits cus he stopped for cure. I say try the re-raise method and fight from luck then on :sweat: if we go without a rdm again..

                      Also ikarus wing is pretty useless for a second rennkei till ur fuidama re-charges.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Xuande
                        So What you're saying, as I gather, is that yes, it's impossible ;P
                        time to level rdm sub eh D:/
                        DRK75 / THF37 / WAR37 / RDM60 / BLM31 / PLD11

                        ohnoez

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                        • #13
                          time to level rdm sub eh D:/

                          Nah xuande doesnt need RDM sub, just sub RDM yourself and eat a pie....you know like usual :D

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Roaddog



                            Nah xuande doesnt need RDM sub, just sub RDM yourself and eat a pie....you know like usual :D
                            at least i didn't buy my account

                            PWWWNED
                            DRK75 / THF37 / WAR37 / RDM60 / BLM31 / PLD11

                            ohnoez

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                            • #15
                              We challenged the AA alliance battle for twice and both failed. I think at least 3 players who could use Utusemi 2 is necessary. ><;

                              Gonna gain some exp for my Bard or she's gonna delevel on the next death. :p

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