PlayStation Network Accounts Compromised, Personal Information Stolen

[Raydeus]

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This is all very lulz worthy but still... I'm going to have to take some precautions considering I was playing DCUO very recently. Supposedly no credit card info was taken fom SOE, but you never know.


Then again this is precisely why I only use a debit card with minimum funds on it to pay for stuff online.

[jenova_9]

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can't you pay DC Universe Online with PSN Cards besides debit/credit cards? I don't think debit cards are safe online (though that is the only other way people without credit cards could play FFXI on PS2/PC/360.)

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwn4R_GexLM]YouTube - PS3 - It Only Does Identity Theft[/ame]

[jenova_9]

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What the ... what the hell do upcoming releases have to do with Sony's network security?

Well if they don't fix this stuff by the time the DLC is scheduled to release, then people will have to wait longer to get them.

It sounds like PSN Store won't be up for weeks, so it seems like 5pb and Red DLC release will be pushed back, it's unknown if it will release the same day PSN Store is finally up, or rescheduled.

But they will surely have PSN Store up before Alice Madness Returns release and the prequel DLC that is planned to be available same day. They have all of May to fix PSN before June.

But ya, PSN Store can't go up until PSN itself is secure and up first.

[Neverslip]

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So out of touch... /facepalm

[Kailea]

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I always liked to laugh at Sony for random things they do..... but this? Oh man, I think I broke my laugh box, I can't laugh anymore.......

All I can say is that Sony's lazy BS finally caught up with them.

[Firewind]

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Well I've had no phone call from my bank so I think my card details are fine. Shame I can't log in to change my bloody password though.

[jenova_9]

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I read the PSN passwords are hashed anyway, there's virtually no way the hackers will be able to find out passwords.

Read this:

"Hashing is a one way encryption method, meaning that once hashed, a value cannot be restored back to its actual value (unless the hashing can be reverse engineered, which in most cases, is impossible).

What generally happens is that passwords are hashed before being stored. When you log into a website, the password that you try and enter with is also hashed, and the two hashed values are compared, not the two string values.

Long story short, what this means is that the Hackers do not know what your actual password is, which is good news for those that are using the same email/password combination in other applications."

[Raydeus]

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can't you pay DC Universe Online with PSN Cards besides debit/credit cards? I don't think debit cards are safe online (though that is the only other way people without credit cards could play FFXI on PS2/PC/360.)

Try buying those where I live. <_<;

[jenova_9]

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reassuring news! Analyst On PSN Issue: No Long-Term Ill Effect On Sony - PS3 News

[Aeni]

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oh please, nothing is going to happen.... move along

I even had people come in a trade in their PS3s today...people are overreacting and being pretty stupid in general.

You obviously do not understand the gravity of the situation. I think I posted another thread regarding stolen personal information. In any event, the person that successfully swiped the information has probably already sold it on a black market exchange and they fetch for huge prices. What do people do with it?

A while back, about 11 years ago, I worked at a boutique as an inventory controller. There was an incident in which a Taiwanese couple posing as wealthy tourists tried to purchase over $25,000 worth of goods. Unfortunately for them we were already alerted by the police and the FBI to be suspicious of large transactions and to carefully look at the credit cards that were given to us. That was then. Nowadays, con artists have better access to the same technology that the banks use to generate credit cards and have been successful at not just duplicating these but using real life information, such as the ones stolen from PSN, to launder money and rip off merchants around the world.

[Etra]

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You obviously do not understand the gravity of the situation. I think I posted another thread regarding stolen personal information. In any event, the person that successfully swiped the information has probably already sold it on a black market exchange and they fetch for huge prices. What do people do with it?

A while back, about 11 years ago, I worked at a boutique as an inventory controller. There was an incident in which a Taiwanese couple posing as wealthy tourists tried to purchase over $25,000 worth of goods. Unfortunately for them we were already alerted by the police and the FBI to be suspicious of large transactions and to carefully look at the credit cards that were given to us. That was then. Nowadays, con artists have better access to the same technology that the banks use to generate credit cards and have been successful at not just duplicating these but using real life information, such as the ones stolen from PSN, to launder money and rip off merchants around the world.

It's nice to see someone else who knows about what those working in the Loss Prevention and Fraud department of banks have to deal with.

[Malacite]

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This is some fairly serious shit.

The personal info alone that they got a hold of is more than enough to steal your identity. It's one of the worst things that can happen to someone, as they can pretty much take away your whole life. I've seen a lot of people battling this shit in the courts and you would not believe what an absolutely horrendous nightmare it is.

[jenova_9]

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This is some fairly serious shit.

The personal info alone that they got a hold of is more than enough to steal your identity. It's one of the worst things that can happen to someone, as they can pretty much take away your whole life. I've seen a lot of people battling this shit in the courts and you would not believe what an absolutely horrendous nightmare it is.

but can't they only steal identity if people put their real information on their PSN account, mew? (I haven't heard anyone that does that. Usually people just have to put A for first name, A for last name, 123 for address and the rest is made up too.)

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Reports on Sony server security lack accuracy (Update)- Destructoid

While some of the story got slashed here, the gist is there are sources that now say that Sony had software running in association with PSN and The Station that was badly out of date, they had been advised to update and didn't update either because they didn't want to spend the money or were just that oblivious to the importance of doing so.

So they didn't update their networks, got hacked and didn't inform customers that their info may have been stolen for at least a week until they were "sure" that's what happened - instead of telling customers right away that's exactly what may have happened, just to let them know. Also, they refused to appear before a US congressional subcommittee on the matter, which means now people will be getting subpeonas.

This kicks the whole "Identity theft happens every day, big deal" argument in the nads pretty hard. Hacking attempts happen every day, sure, but updating your shit and telling your customers that their personal information may have been compromise is something that should always happen with big companies like this.

As social media and gaming networks continue to grow and evolve, there need to be some ground rules laid out for companies that run these networks to protect the user/consumer. Australia seems to already be considering legislation in light of the PSN incident, along with some of Facebooks prior issues. Its high time for other governments to look into doing so as well, so long as it doesn't stifle the emergence of future media evolutions.

I mean, we're not far off from faster internet speeds, TB-sized SD cards and cloud-computing becoming commonplace. We're moving away from the laptops to tablets, requiring connections anywhere at anytime. This stuff isn't going away.

Additionally, they really do need to look into revising privacy law because some of this social media and smartphones in particular are more invasive than they need to be.