Just setup my ps3...... if you guys want my user id

[Thoris]

Re: Just setup my ps3...... if you guys want my user id

Ok i might get flamed, but as a Manager at GameStop i can attest that the xbox is a POS. I get alot of compliants and calls that there system is breaking and what not. The xbox 360 as of now has a 56% defective rate.

Also the xbox is alot more money then ps3..

here is a break down of the Prices.

----Item--------------------------------------Xbox elite-----------------------Ps3

1. System it self-----------------------------450.00--------------------------499.99
2. Network adapter------------------------100.00---------------------------Free
3. Online gaming----------------------------50+ a year---------------------Its not MS/Free
4. Rechargeable controller----------------21.57 each---------------------Free
5. Hd Drive-----------------------------------160.00--------------------------BlueRay/Built in
6. Hassle of Red rings----------------------!!!!!!---------------------------- Rings what?

Total 780.00 +Tax 499.99+ tax

There are more exclusive titles for ps3 then there for Xbox. Also because of the BlueRay Player Devil may cry, Grand Theft Auto will have more content on ps3 Ver then Xbox.

[Icemage]

Re: Just setup my ps3...... if you guys want my user id

The 360 has a much better library, and is at a more reasonable price. The Wii's library might not be all there yet, but it is at least as good as the PS3's, and the Wii is obviously the cheapest console of this gen.

The 360's problem isn't the software, it's the hardware. Too many 360 owners I know stare nervously at their console every time they stick a new game in, wondering if this will be the one that bricks it.

As for the Wii, while it has a few truly amazing games, a lot of what's getting released is just... garbage, much more so than the PS3.

There are 211 Wii games listed on Metacritic right now.
Metacritic - 211 Wii games

Of those, only 10 have a composite score of 80 or above (4.7%!).
Metacritic - 10 Wii games with a 80%+ composite score

There are 208 PS3 games listed on Metacritic right now.
Metacritic - 208 PS3 games

Of those 34 games with an 80+ Metacritic composite average or better (16.3%).
Metacritic - 34 PS3 games with 80%+ composite score

What was that again about the Wii's software library being "at least as good as the PS3's"? It sure doesn't look like it to me, and my game library count (17 PS3 games versus 6 Wii games) seems to agree.


Icemage

[Feba]

Re: Just setup my ps3...... if you guys want my user id

2. Network adapter for what? Last I checked, it has a built in ethernet port. If you're talking about wireless internet, that's not really good for online gaming anyway, and ethernet cable is cheap.
4. Sony is giving out free controllers? Wait, what? Controllers cost money. 360 controllers, Sixaxis, and Wiimotes all have completely different technology inside them. Comparing them on terms of price alone doesn't really make sense.
5. Both of which are formats most people have hardly any use for. The HD viewer is purely there for the movie buffs that will actually use it, instead of forcing it down everyone's throats.

You have some good points, but when your logic is so poor that I am defending Microsoft you probably need to rethink your posts some.

[Pai Pai Master]

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That comparison is extremely subjective, Thoris. I find the PS3 to be a far better value but what dictates that is not the same for everyone.

And not to fuel this, but unless you like shit like Carnival Games (which most Wii owners obviously do, so once again this is simply subjectively speaking), the Wii's library really is not better than the PS3's. It has a few fantastic games, and a lot of very, very poor ones, which goes for every console, but with the Wii the bad severely outweighs the good. Even you yourself, Feba, have said there's not much else you'd want on Wii that's out right now other than what you have...while 360 and PS3 owners are scrambling to purchase all the AA+ games out right now.

The 360's library in my opinion is not miles ahead either; both have a great selection of games to play. But if "excellent content" doesn't justify a console's price, I guess library isn't important at all.

And though it is different for everyone, Icemage, my library consists of a 16:4 ratio. ; ; I really just want Brawl, then I swear I'll stop bitching about the Wii's severe lack of hardcore games. Anything after that will be icing on top of a delicious cake.

[Feba]

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Too many 360 owners I know stare nervously at their console every time they stick a new game in, wondering if this will be the one that bricks it.

agreed. Had a friend who preordered halo, was super excited about it, until he went to put in the disc and realized it could brick his console. Was very worried about it for way too long.

As for the Wii's library, I'm talking about A- Exclusives. There is no reason to buy a console for games you can get elsewhere, and B- Great games.

While the Wii's library is obviously more full of crud, the PS3's list isn't so great when you single out the games that are Just Another Yearly Installment, or not exclusive to the console.

From the Wii's library, we've got:

Super Mario Galaxy
Super Paper Mario
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Metroid Prime 3
Wii Sports (might not be a full game, but the excellence and uniqueness of the controls definitely makes it definitely worth a purchase, if it weren't already a pack in for us)

And that's not commenting on the fact that motion controls and IR tracking make almost all games on the Wii truly owned by the system, even if they are cross platform. Also not including RE4, which although it is unique to the Wii in this generation, is also on PS2 and GC. Although honestly the Wii version is still an extremely beautiful game, and still fun. Or any of the games that are only really possible on Wii, such as Trauma Center or Warioware, but might not appeal to everyone.

Now the PS3, without the non-exclusives (and downloadable games)

Uncharted
Rachet & Clank
Resistance
Warhawk

While they might be good games, there isn't much 'new' to it, and Rachet & Clank is the closest thing it has to a 'killer app' to it, whereas the Wii library has at least three (Wii Sports, TP, and SMG), and many creative games (Super Paper Mario I shouldn't need to explain, SMG has very unique physics, various games' motion controls, etc.)

[Pai Pai Master]

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Just outta curiosity, why are downloadable games forfeit from your comparison? Also, you missed FolkLore and MotorStorm.

That's entirely your opinion but there are an extremely comparable number of exclusives available now for PS3 and Wii. Is there much "new" to Twilight Princess and Super Paper Mario compared to the likes of Ratchet & Clank, Resistance, Uncharted, and Warhawk? Sony and Nintendo's first party titles rely on vastly different philosophies. Comparing them in such a way is very, very insignificant rather than comparing them by quality, which both publishers' titles have in spades.

[jwalton]

Re: Just setup my ps3...... if you guys want my user id

The xbox 360 as of now has a 56% defective rate.

[Feba]

Re: Just setup my ps3...... if you guys want my user id

But if "excellent content" doesn't justify a console's price, I guess library isn't important at all.

Library is important. It does not justify price, however. Nintendo could charge $600 for Wiis and people would still eat them up (See ebay and CL for proof), that does not mean it would be a reasonable pricetag. Unless a system comes with content at no additional charge, I'm not buying that excuse.

By that logic, Sony would be charging more for PS2s than PS3s.

Even you yourself, Feba, have said there's not much else you'd want on Wii that's out right now other than what you have...

If I said that directly, it was bad wording, if not you're misquoting me, either way it's a misunderstanding. There's only one Wii game out now that I don't have that I really want, LEGO Star Wars, but there are about a dozen games out there I'd want if I had the money. I will agree about a lack of 'hardcore' games, but that is not a lack of good or fun ones.

while 360 and PS3 owners are scrambling to purchase all the AA+ games out right now.

Which is unfortunate, but mostly due to the Wii's lack of raw power. Even though it's capable of beautiful games, it is not capable of the pure processing power required for many of the games hitting 360 and PS3. However, I doubt this will be much of a problem as the Wii continues to sell out and developers switch their focus, though.
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Just outta curiosity, why are downloadable games forfeit from your comparison?

If we're going to start counting them, the VC is clearly going to win.

Is there much "new" to Twilight Princess and Super Paper Mario compared to the likes of Ratchet & Clank, Resistance, Uncharted, and Warhawk?

Have you ever played Super Paper Mario?

As for Twilight Princess, it is mostly more of the same, but even it had some new elements (iron boots + magnetic ceilings, for example)

Sony and Nintendo's first party titles rely on vastly different philosophies. Comparing them in such a way is very, very insignificant rather than comparing them by quality, which both publishers' titles have in spades.

I have no doubt that Sony's titles are very high quality, however if I want to play high quality games, a PS2 is much cheaper. Right now, even though they might be good, there's not enough reason for me to buy a PS3 at $600 when I could get a PS2 and a library of very high quality games for the same price. Quality does not sell consoles. Looking better is a good start, but the difference between a last gen system and a current gen system in terms of graphics is much smaller than it's ever been before. It had been "square" to "vaguely humanoid blocks"; "decent looking sprite" to "blocky 3D character"; now the difference is "Very good looking model" to "Even better looking model". It would be stupid to say that current gen titles don't look better than old ones, but it would also be stupid to say that last gen didn't have some titles that are still extremely beautiful (Re4 again, Shadow of the Collusus, GOW2, old Rachet and Clank games), and if you're just going for looks, the difference between last gen and now is not worth hundreds of dollars.

[Thoris]

Re: Just setup my ps3...... if you guys want my user id

2. Network adapter for what? Last I checked, it has a built in ethernet port. If you're talking about wireless internet, that's not really good for online gaming anyway, and ethernet cable is cheap.
4. Sony is giving out free controllers? Wait, what? Controllers cost money. 360 controllers, Sixaxis, and Wiimotes all have completely different technology inside them. Comparing them on terms of price alone doesn't really make sense.
5. Both of which are formats most people have hardly any use for. The HD viewer is purely there for the movie buffs that will actually use it, instead of forcing it down everyone's throats.

You have some good points, but when your logic is so poor that I am defending Microsoft you probably need to rethink your posts some.

LoL i am trying to tell you that the ps3 is a better deal then Xbox.

To have the xbox controller equal to ps3 controler ( rechargeable, wireless) will cost you 21 more then a ps3

[jwalton]

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The fact that he's disagreeing with you pretty much means that your attempt at a one-size-fits-all analysis doesn't work. Trying to break down why oranges are better than apples or vice versa by using a bunch of arbitrary numbers and anecdotal evidence won't sway opinions. Consumers can figure it out for themselves.

[Pai Pai Master]

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Okay let me rephrase, why are original downloadable titles forfeit?

And I don't mean visual quality, Feba. Whether you've played them or not, these games are absurdly fun, just like Nintendo's first-party offerings on Wii.

[Thoris]

Re: Just setup my ps3...... if you guys want my user id

What is funny is most of Stupid/blind Americans ( i am a American to but sometimes i wish i was not) see a low number so they think the xbox is a better bargain. They don't look at the bigger picture, Hence why i let the customers know about the Defective rate of xbox 360 Verses the ps3 defective rate. I also give them a total cost of each system to make them on equal playing field.



Also Feba

I play games online fine with Wifi i do not get any lag or D/cs.
I was just stating the Difference from xbox to ps3 in cost and what you get per dollar.
I also Think the Wii is a Gamecube 1.5 with a new controller. I would never own one because the games do not interest me.


Also ps3 controller is 49.99 and its Rechargeable and wireless
Xbox 360 controller is wireless, if you want to be Rechargeable it will cost you 74.57 for the controller and charge kit.

[Pai Pai Master]

Re: Just setup my ps3...... if you guys want my user id

The 360 is a better bargain. The PS3 is good for those who are willing to spend the extra money involved. The 360's selling better in the US for a reason. Both are worth buying but the 360 has a lower price point and a very strong library, coupled with a few killer apps.

[jwalton]

Re: Just setup my ps3...... if you guys want my user id

What is funny is most of Stupid/blind Americans ( i am a American to but sometimes i wish i was not) see a low number so they think the xbox is a better bargain. They don't look at the bigger picture

What bigger picture? Maybe they picked the 360 for their kid because they want Halo 3 or Naruto. Maybe the parents who picked up a PS3 did so because their kid wants to play Uncharted or Resistance. Maybe the parents who grabbed a Wii have a kid who wants to play Mario Galaxy or Metroid Prime 3. Who the hell are you to judge other people based on their purchase of a gaming console?

By the way, feel free to share how you came to the conclusion that the 360 has a 56% failure rate. It should be precious.

[Mr.Trilby]

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Whoever said GTA will have more content on the PS3 is sadly mistaken. Rockstar have announced exclusive content for the 360 which the PS3 won't be getting. And who needs a network adapter? Not me . PS3 is still a ridiculous price. Do your research

And the ps3 doesn't have more exclusives. To date 360 has around 30 titles, PS3 has around 15. If that.

Flamed? Nah, just stating facts

Having to admit PS3 will , in the next year, probbaly vastly out sell the x box though.