Birth control pills...for men?

[Nuriko]

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I'm glad someone finally noticed.

I noticed, I just didn't think much of either one of them...

[Feba]

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I'm glad someone finally noticed.

[eticket109]

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Really, not to mention there's no justice sweeter than what only a vasectomy can provide.

so much win there lol

[Murphie]

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Yeah sorry Muphie, probably not quite the same (UK here) but it's only recently that they started cracking down on Child Support more and it's still far from perfect.

Well, I'm sorry that the UK sucks at enforcing child support.

Blame Feba for bringing up child support in the first place.

Rain Blade - I know you didn't. But there were other posters in the thread who were.

[Rain_Blade]

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FYI for anyone, I never recommended not using a condom, so people who have taken Health classes should already (or at least have SOME knowledge) know of what they're already in for when it comes to STDs. I do understand even few people haven't taken it though. Just posting some news.

[Omni]

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I think this shouldnt be used for your typical hooking up contraception like you would with condoms.

however, if you have been with someone for a decent amount of time and you've both have been checked out and cleared, this could be a nice convenience.

I know in the past, getting my gf to take the pill was tough or even out of the question. We've both been checked out so the main issue was just not wanting to get her pregnant.

[Malacite]

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@. @ who knows, maybe some day we'll all be free of worrying about this crap.

I mean for crap sake, we've broken the secret to creating life! You gonna tell me we can wipe out a few diseases?


... *runs home to turn on his PS3 and Folding @ Home*

[Jarre]

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Yes unfortunately up my end of the coluntry there are too many girls around her age (22) that are like that, would rather sit at home and bleed off teh stae and other people than do a honest days work.

[Kuro]

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That can be aranged *loads kitty cannon*

[Aksannyi]

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Your friend's ex woman is a BITCH. And I don't use that word lightly. She should die.

[Jarre]

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I know where you coming from saren, our country is full of them..

My mate went through it real bad..

He met this girl who after a year going steady moved into the hosue he morgaged. about 3 months down the line she stopped taking the pill, she'd take it in front of him, and just keep it in her mouth then spit it out when he wasn't looking. it wasn't until 4 months down the line when she started to get a noticable bump that he got her to go to the docs. She knew she was pregnant, it was part of the plan. He accepted this thinking something must have happened as the pill is not 100% guarenteed. A month later she became very eratic, mood swings etc. and my mate was now thinking should he be in this relationship. He decided not as she became very violent towards him. He ended it and she went home. 3 weeks past , then he received a letter from her solicitor filing for half of his house. In the Uk if a partner (doesn't have to be married) lives in teh same hosue and contributes money to bills, food or the mortgage then if they have lived there doing this for over 6 months they are entitled to half the house.

As she was pregnant and put on a sob story in court my mate lost the case, and had to sell the house and give her half the money. He i also not alowed to see the kid (now 2) as she said he wouldn't be a suitable father and social services agreed (due to teh tension between them now) He still has to pay £200 a month maintenance to her for the kid as well as he lost £46k ($89k) on the house, he hs already made 1 attempt at suicide and until he got his own place crashed at my pad for 2 months.

all this because he didn't like wearing a condom and trusted she'd take the pill. so a male pill to me is an excellent idea and one I would take up on. The reality is from teh true story is you can never trust anyone, so if there is an option to to be extra safe i.e. with a male pill and/or a condom then take it.

My friend is in court again trying to turnover the maintenance issue as he has not ever seen his son and is not given access so hes arguing when she did this purposley why he should have to pay for her trick. I am a character witness for him next week for the first day of the hearing.

As saren said there are a lot of pretty F'd up women here in this country, us blokes have to be weary of and take precautions.

Here endeth the lesson.

[Illuen]

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Men don't now. It's called a vasectomy. Get one, motherfuckers!

This makes me want to post the vasectomy song. Oh, what the hell
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0eeAJ7koVE[/YOUTUBE]

My point is that now men have more means of protecting themselves than they previously had, and now have even less of an excuse (not that they had one before) for not being protected. That said, any man who won't wear a condom because he doesn't like how it feels is a dumbass. I guarantee you that sex with a condom is better than the lack of sex you'd be having without one. Also, while some people like myself hate the thought of having children, some guys do want them someday, and they shouldn't have to punish themselves by getting a vasectomy just because they cannot trust their mate to be reliable with birth control.

Hell, hand out the pills for free on college campuses then. Much, much fewer unwanted kids, and it slows the spread of STDs while we're at it.

I think that birth control, like sex education, should be plentiful and free for all who need it. In the end, though, it is up to the people involved to be responsible enough to protect themselves, or be prepared to live with the consequences, be it an abortion and the aftermath of one, having a baby and putting it up for adoption, or keeping the kid and raising it. If you are not ready to deal with any (or indeed all) of those then you should be using a condom, or stick to beating off.

[Saren]

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Well, it's pay that or end up in jail. Or raise the child yourself, and that's not exactly free.

Yeah sorry Muphie, probably not quite the same (UK here) but it's only recently that they started cracking down on Child Support more and it's still far from perfect.

Not to be overly personal but my father managed to make my mother homeless and then wait another 6 years before the government got involved to make him pay any child support.

Always condoms, always, but a male pill would be nice. Not all women can take the pill successfully and it still has the odd fun problem like that whole paracetamol turning the effect off in some women.

Not to mention that it gives men more control over whether or not they want children which, especially given how batshit insane some women are, can only be a good thing.

[Jarre]

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id have them, i never use any condoms or anything which is really stupid, i have sex about 3 times a week, and i have never used a condom ina bout a year, and my gf has not been pregnant once, obviously i pull out ...
im kind of intrested in these pills unless there is weird side effects, like i get boobs or somthing haha

Thats how STD's are transmitted, you may think yourself clean and her but that is not always reality.

On the male pill thing this has been aroudnf or a while with the pharmacutical companies trying to balance the responsibility. If both male and female take the pill then thats double safety.

I would prefer a pill option, the other involves a needle in the bollocks (ok guys stop squirming now!) yeah, thats another method thats availiable now.... F that!

But being a responsible adult, I would advise you wear a jonny anyway you can get more sensitive ones that don't block out the feeling for us guys and you protect yourself from STD's especially if your out at night on the game and pull ome random chick to have a one nighter with. In teh Uk adults between the age of 18-25, 38% tested (out of 100,000) had a STD of some sort.

You also have to think the thicker johnys may help reduce the sensation on teh guy preventing premature ejaculation that especially the not so experienced will suffer from, so it saves embarrasement and makes them last longer.
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My husband and I weren't on the pill ... and he used to pull out ... we have two kids ...
I think if women and men could commit to getting on the pill together it would be like double protection and it would be easier for them to stick with it.

I will quote Billy connolly if i may. "There isn't a heard of horses that could pull my arse in the oposite direction when i'm about to orgasm"
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Some STDs can still be transferred even with a condom as well. Mainly this is just about a way to prevent unwanted births.

The difference between 100% transfer without and 1% transfere with, you are much safer being suited up.
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No one ever said the condom was 100% effective. But hello, you don't just stop using it because it's uncomfortable. That's how you get syphilis.
Are people really that misinformed?

Unfortunately yes and No. some are ill informed, others just think "They know best"
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Hell, hand out the pills for free on college campuses then. Much, much fewer unwanted kids, and it slows the spread of STDs while we're at it.

To try and prevent this in the Uk, the students union are handing out free boxes of condoms at universities to freshers in a bid to prevent the "early itch" also we have free family plannign clinics where you can get discounted or free (depending on means tested situation) pills and condoms from your doctors.

[Murphie]

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I'm not sure I know what point you're trying to make there. At this hour I have no idea if you're being earnest, sarcastic, or trying to make some obtuse point. Of course, with only eight words, I'm not exactly working with much.