9/11 Rememberance

[neighbortaru]

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well, I lived through the whole chaos and mess 5 years ago and nearly lost my wife to it. I had intended to stop by the site on the way home from work yesterday to spend a moment to remember and reflect, but when I got there, there were throngs of people, police, a news van, etc. so I said to hell with it and just did my thing from across the street.

personally, i'm a bit bummed that the media has turned the whole thing into a spectacle and politicians into a platform.

[Murphie]

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personally, i'm a bit bummed that the media has turned the whole thing into a spectacle and politicians into a platform.

Kind of how I feel about it as well.

[Hantz]

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To be fair, everyone handles this sort of thing in different ways. Personally, I'm not a fan of big public demonstrations of my grief. The more private, the better.

Word.

I think the news here in Dallas was just more focused on all the new shootings and murders of the day to fit much 9/11 reflection in. I just kind of found it odd that there wasn't something organized going on nearly statewide. I mean, TX is huge, you know? I figured some town somewhere would have like a minute of silence or something. That's all.

[Skoal]

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I agree with Neighbortaru. My gf kept asking why I didn't watch some movie on the history channel or another station. I know what happened that day and I watched it all happen on TV. Not much bothers me but that was a very disturbing day and I lost alot of faith in humankind. Its hard to relive something like that.

[Aeni]

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I think it's especially important to all Americans, really. My city may have done something, but I really don't know.

Well, it's a personal thing for me and I wasn't saying it should be or was less important for anyone else. If you had a sibling or loved one that was connected with the events somehow or someway, you'd feel differently on a personal level than on a empathetic level.

Yes, it's a very sensitive issue, no matter how anyone looks at it. However, I just wanted to see (curiousity) what other parts of the nation did. I'm not a big fan of mass organized affairs, however, I do feel that sometimes grieving with others helps more than just grieving alone.

In a sense, there's a shared connection that otherwise would not be there.

[Jarre]

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well, I lived through the whole chaos and mess 5 years ago and nearly lost my wife to it. I had intended to stop by the site on the way home from work yesterday to spend a moment to remember and reflect, but when I got there, there were throngs of people, police, a news van, etc. so I said to hell with it and just did my thing from across the street.

personally, i'm a bit bummed that the media has turned the whole thing into a spectacle and politicians into a platform.

The same thing happened here in the Uk with 7/7, the media companies make a mint from peoples tradegdies, the governements use it to support their contravercial plans.

I watched a harrowing documentary on the firefighters filmed by a probie there, my own link is that over 300 brothers died in the tower trying to rescue people, at the station we lowered the flag to half mast on the 11th and held a minutes silence. The fire forum i also frequent closed for the day as a mark of respect.

My only gripe with this forum is that 9/11 although was the biggest terroist attack so far it seems to steam roller over the other tragic attacks on other countries as irrelivent i.e. 7/7 here in the Uk in london, the Madrid train bombs, egypt bombs etc. these our all forgotten but are just as significant and trageic. I was apalled when i posted a thread on the first aniversary of 7/7 to have no one even post anything to it as though no one cared, this attack was by the same organisation and wanted to cause the same mass of tradegdy and loss and they did cause alot of tragedy. there are people on this thread from other countries other than the US giving their support and rememberence all I ask is that you think of other peoples countries as well who are involved in this war on terror who have suffered from attacks, it just seems to me so tunnel vision rowards one event.

[Theyaden]

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My only gripe with this forum is that 9/11 although was the biggest terroist attack so far it seems to steam roller over the other tragic attacks on other countries as irrelivent i.e. 7/7 here in the Uk in london, the Madrid train bombs, egypt bombs etc. these our all forgotten but are just as significant and trageic. I was apalled when i posted a thread on the first aniversary of 7/7 to have no one even post anything to it as though no one cared, this attack was by the same organisation and wanted to cause the same mass of tradegdy and loss and they did cause alot of tragedy. there are people on this thread from other countries other than the US giving their support and rememberence all I ask is that you think of other peoples countries as well who are involved in this war on terror who have suffered from attacks, it just seems to me so tunnel vision rowards one event.

The reason Sept 11 gets so much attention often pushing other tragedies aside is it the first incident of this scale that shocked the world and then made it it tremble (Few believed it could happen). People of multiple cultures died with those towers and the world had been shown a danger from groups everyone had discounted as major threats. The London bombing, Madrid bombing, and Egypt bombings all occured after we had already been shocked into the realization that nowhere was completely safe. It was the loss of feeling secure that made 9/11 so significant and while I feel sympathy for all other travesties 9/11 is the one that shocked me leaving me a little numb to all catastrophies afterward. If it is any consolation however I do consider those that bombed those other places just as much my enemy as those who struck NY.

Regarding memories of 911
I was asleep when the planes hit when I turned on the tv re-runs of the strike were on tv. After staring at the screen for an unknown amount of time I called my National Guard office to ask if we were to report to the armory and was told he didn't know but they would call if needed. I found the next 3 days I spent most of my time staring at tv repeats of the plane hitting the building. It was like being in a trance feeling numb. A friend told me much later about his being in army basic training when it occured. You don't get outside news in Ft. Lenordwood during basic so all they knew was that the drill sargents were acting odd that day. Actions ranging from one punching the walls to another that was crying. The one crying would of personally unsettled me more.

[Jarre]

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Thankyou for not flaming Theyaden, I have to defend the rights of my fellow countrymen to get some recognition for the tradgedy we suffered so you can see the point fo my post that this is global and not effecting one country and we shoudl remember all eveywhere. Politions should not use it as a soap box to push their demands and media companies should ahev their hands cut off with the amount of money and rewards they received from televising these.

I am appaled about the film being made on it, the victims families ahve enough to comprehend with without having a film glutonising the incident and making a film company alot of money. At the very least profits should go to the relevant help funds, but in this world I doubt that will happen.

[Spicykitty]

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- California did some charity concerts here and there and some other things that I'm not quite sure about. My family has lit a candle every year since 9/11 and we let it burn the whole day. Only until we go to be do we say a prayer and then blow it out.

- I too can recall that sad day. I was still in High School and my mother had just woke me up to get ready for school. As I sat at the kitchen table eatting my bowl of cereal the TV posted a "Breaking NEWS" bulletin. At first I didn't understand what was going on. My brain was still a little foggy and still waking up. Then I saw plane number 2 hit. I was just about to put a spoonful of cereal into my mouth when it happened. I froze and just stared at the horror. It felt like a nightmare, something that coudn't be happening. I wanted myself to wake up but I already was and this was really happening. After a few minutes when I relized this was all true my hand let go of the spoon and it splattered milk and cereal all over me and the table. It made me and my mother jump. She looked at me and said, "Your not going to school." I couldn't blame her... I didn't want to go either.

- I started to think of my friend who had just moved to that area of New York and I began to worry. Luckly, he and his dad had left the area to find a safer place to stay. My friends brother and a neighbor of mine are both in Iraq as we speak. I only hope that they both return home safely.

[Guren]

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Agreed. I just wanted to point out that it's not especially important to just one person.

not true. It isnt important to all of humanity. Some people in this world just dont care... including some americans..

I lived in new york when it happen but it was miles away. Hit me hard

[Raydeus]

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not true. It isnt important to all of humanity. Some people in this world just dont care... including some americans..

I feel bad for the victims and their families but I say you are right, it might've been something very shocking for US citizens but stuff like that has happened many times before around the world.

The same way US citizens don't feel particularly sad about events that happened in other parts of the world you can't really expect for the rest of the world to consider it so important. (And later on some of us were actually more worried about which country was going to be the next that was gonna get "freed" in the fight against terror.)


In my case I still remember when I saw it on CNN (I used to watch it on cable every morning before going to work), I saw the news right after the first plane hit one of the towers, and then the 2nd, I got to work 2 hours late because of that.

And I just couldn't believe it for the first 2 days, it was just too surreal. I had to get a couple of friends from the US telling me on the phone it was really true the towers were gone to actually believe it.

[Murphie]

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not true. It isnt important to all of humanity. Some people in this world just dont care... including some americans..

I lived in new york when it happen but it was miles away. Hit me hard

I'm not sure what about your opinion on this makes my statement untrue.

There are a lot of apathetic people in this word, definitely. But this stuff didn't happen to them. I can guarantee you that if it did, they'd change their tune right quick.

[711rocks]

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My uncle Chris died on 9/11 and I went to a memorial service which my family goes to every year.

[711rocks]

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Sorry for the double post the edit thing kept freezing on me.

I've seen Loose Change and it is fantastic. It's true, it really is and that pisses me off quite a bit. (and it damn well should)

For those of you (Probably and sadly I bet there's a lot of you) who have never heard or seen this film, Loose Change is a documentary about 9/11 filled with FACTS from alternate sources of information. (Alternate sources meaning non corporation controlled media, What up FOX News? Watch good news shows like Democracy Now! on the Free Speech television network.)

The film leads one to believe about conspiracies surrounding 9/11, but it's not BS at all. All they do is present you real facts that you will never get to hear on TV, but it's all true. You need to draw your own conclusions.

You know how movies have a warning about copyright laws at the start? This one starts with a warning about how viewing, owning, or distributing this information is illegal under the Patriot Act, but it is stuff people NEED to know.

http://www.loosechange911.com/
Your government is lying to you, America.
Go. Learn. Spread the word. Tell anyone and everyone.

[neighbortaru]

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actually "Loose Change" ain't exactly telling ya the truth either...
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/