New Computer Configuration

[nanatsu]

It's been a long time since I built a computer but I decided I want to try to do so, since my current system is getting on in years. I have a list of components and I was wondering if anyone could tell me if they fit well together or not. And if not, any suggestions for a good system that will run ffxi but isn't too expensive?

LOGISYS Computer PS575XBK ATX12V 575W PCI-E Power Supply

Acer AL1716 Fbd Black 17" 5ms LCD Monitor

HIS Hightech H385F256NP Radeon HD 3850 256MB

Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX All Solid Capacitor Intel Motherboard

Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 Conroe 2.33GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor

Sony NEC Optiarc Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE

[Mhurron]

Re: New Computer Configuration

The Acer monitors are alright, but there are nicer ones if you can afford it.

[Kailea]

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Not every one would agree with me on this.... but if your going to use Radeon, us an AMD processor, if your stuck on Intel, then change the video card to Nvidia. I know that sounds silly, but they work alittle better in pairs.

Other then that everything else sounds good, and nice motherboard.

[nanatsu]

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The Acer monitors are alright, but there are nicer ones if you can afford it.

Wish I could but I haven't seen one that fits within my budget that was what I wanted. Especially not looking to get any widescreen monitors if I can help it.

Not every one would agree with me on this.... but if your going to use Radeon, us an AMD processor, if your stuck on Intel, then change the video card to Nvidia. I know that sounds silly, but they work alittle better in pairs.

tbh I'm not a fan of AMD or Nvidia but I can deal with an Nvidia card if I have to, so I'll look into it. Thanks very much for the responses ^^

[Feba]

Re: New Computer Configuration

tbh

Stop right there.

Never listen to anything Kailea says about computers. Ever.

Ok, thread can continue.

[Effedup]

Re: New Computer Configuration

Honestly, pretty much any computer that you are building with parts that are available today is going to run FFXI just fine. I started playing FFXI on a 1.3 GHz AMD with 512 MB of RAM and a pretty crappy 128 meg video card and it ran just fine.

As far as what you have picked out hardware wise, it looks fine to me. Personally, I prefer Samsung monitors and Asus motherboards, but thats just a preference I've formed over the years with my various builds. You didn't specifically say what the clock speed is on your RAM (DDR2 covers a big range)...your board supports up to DDR2 1066, so make sure to get that or at the very least DDR2 800.

Other than that, it looks good. It'll run FFXI no problems at all...

You didn't specify, but if you are going to be running Vista the process to install FFXI is a little trickier than it is on XP. Here's the link that shows you how to do it.

Good luck to you!

[Kailea]

Re: New Computer Configuration

Stop right there.

Never listen to anything Kailea says about computers. Ever.

Ok, thread can continue.

seriously get off my back, had enough of you in the other thread, I know my way around computers....or I would not have a job anymore........
like I said you don't have to agree with me, but its true, at least with AMD and Radeon

Nanatsu, you don't have to pair them, the difference is not all that noticeable, just a suggestion.

[nanatsu]

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Well honestly I ended up deciding I just didn't want an Nvidia card and wanted to roll with what I had chosen. I did make sure that the ram I selected was DDR2 1066 even. But since I built my last computer without knowing a great deal about them I have a question about my power supply. Is 575W enough for what I'm trying to put in here? Also do I need to worry about extra fans or anything? I don't want it overheating.

[Mhurron]

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but its true, at least with AMD and Radeon

Guess again. The performance gods currently smile on an Intel/nVidia because those two companies have the highest performing individual components. However the latest Radeons may be challenging nVidias current dominance again, so we may see the gods smile on Intel/ATI again. AMD/anything sucks because AMD's current processors leave a lot to be desired.

Your assertion that AMD/nVidia doesn't work or that Intel/nVidia works better because it's 'paired' is just stupid, especially when you consider it was not to long ago that and AMD processor, nVidia chipset and nVidia video card was the most powerful gaming machine you could buy.

Before that it was AMD/ATI.

Before that it was Intel/ATI/3dfx.

It has nothing to do with what part works together, it's the performance of the individual componants.

[Kailea]

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Well honestly I ended up deciding I just didn't want an Nvidia card and wanted to roll with what I had chosen. I did make sure that the ram I selected was DDR2 1066 even. But since I built my last computer without knowing a great deal about them I have a question about my power supply. Is 575W enough for what I'm trying to put in here? Also do I need to worry about extra fans or anything? I don't want it overheating.

your power supply is fine for what you have there.
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Guess again. The performance gods currently smile on an Intel/nVidia because those two companies have the highest performing individual components. However the latest Radeons may be challenging nVidias current dominance again, so we may see the gods smile on Intel/ATI again. AMD/anything sucks because AMD's current processors leave a lot to be desired.

Your assertion that AMD/nVidia doesn't work or that Intel/nVidia works better because it's 'paired' is just stupid, especially when you consider it was not to long ago that and AMD processor, nVidia chipset and nVidia video card was the most powerful gaming machine you could buy.

Before that it was AMD/ATI.

Before that it was Intel/ATI/3dfx.

It has nothing to do with what part works together, it's the performance of the individual componants.

did I say it did not work together? no..... you and Feba take what I say and bend it to say something else, both of you can back off, I am sorry I have worked with computers for 8 years, I have seen my own things and formed my own opinions, just like you two have.

[Luna]

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The problems I seem to have with my computer and FFXI is that Vista is very picky with FFXI, like for one you cant run Ventrillio and FFXI at the same time, what I mean by that is, you would have to keep switching windows to make sure vent is on top before you can even use its functions, another thing DO NOT use the built in windower on FFXI, the built in one has a lot of issues with Vista. Also I would use a duo graphics card so that it saves you a lot of lag in the game, Vista is a ram hog keep that in mind, if you have a powerful computer then it would run it np, but I have a crappy one that I can only run FFXI >.> otherwise I lag so bad my chr freezes lol. That mostly has to do with my ATI Radeon 900x M series (sp?) graphics card......... I really wish I had a duo one like Niv but mines built in =( so I cant change it (I have a crappy laptop btw)

Btw Idk much about computers but that is what I do know =) dont pick on me T-T
oh and one more thing!

Mhurron and Feba (sp?) both of you need to back the heck off of kailea, I mean seriously you are acting like 5 year olds, I'd say Feba that posting in another thread that has nothing to do with what you two or three may have been arguing about earlier is a form of harassment, and from my understand harassment is something that is against the law no matter how small it may be. Now here is my suggestion to both of you, pull the stick you have shoved up your ass out, I am tired of reading this shit you are posting all she is trying to do is help someone by giving her own OPINION and last time I checked an OPINION is not FACTUAL information. This just go's to show you two need to be put back in grade school you seem to be lacking in the knowledge department of 5-12 year olds.

[Jaice]

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The only reccomendation that I can think of is if you are going to run Vista at all ( because Microsoft is absoloutly evil and offering gaming companies an incentive bonus for making games Vista Compatable just like they do with every operating system they come out with ) think about upgrading to at least 3gig of ram, the dual channel capabilities of your motherboard and very nice cache on the processor will help take up some of the weight with Vista. I was unable to check if your hard drive is an actual SATA drive rather than an old IDE with a newer SATA connector added on, a lot of hard drive companies are taking all of their older drives and just attaching the SATA connector onto the drive making it an IDE drive that can use a SATA cord, the data transfer is still the same speed as an IDE which is about 2/3rds slower than a SATA cord if I remember right.

The power supply that you are runing should be just fine for helping to reduce heat, most every graphic card comes with it's own fan to help with circulation in the tower and if there isnt a fan on your processor i'd be suprised.

575w is more than enough to run anything inside of a computer tower, I acnt remember the cutoff but I think that the power supply can only pull 450w into the case for saftey reasons (i'm just remembering an old lecture, not sure if that is the wattage) and anything after that is unused

[TheGrandMom]

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Wish I could but I haven't seen one that fits within my budget that was what I wanted. Especially not looking to get any widescreen monitors if I can help it.

Seriously?? No widescreen??

/em grabs chest............IT'S THE BIG ONE!!


Fyi, just make sure you have the right pin set up on your power supply. Older ps's have a 4 pin and many new mb's need an 8 pin. I was stupid enough to think that our local computer store wouldn't rape me (ya I know /slap) and I blindly bought a ps. Picked up a Coolermaster 650w for $120 because I needed it RIGHT NOW and it had the 4 pin connector setup. I was so pissed because by the time I got home and found this out, the store was closed for the day and it wasn't open on Sunday. Gramma had to go take a walk to cool off. LOL

[Feba]

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I know my way around computers...

No, you pretty clearly do not.

I am sorry I have worked with computers for 8 years,

That's nice. You don't know jack shit about them.

did I say it did not work together? no..... you and Feba take what I say and bend it to say something else

Irony much? Mhurron pretty clearly refuted the exact point you had stated; that nVidia and Intel or ATI and AMD will work better than nVidia and AMD or ATI and Intel. You're the one bending statements (Mhurron's, specifically)

I have seen my own things and formed my own opinions,

The thing is, those aren't "opinions", those are "completely and totally incorrect views".

Mhurron and Feba (sp?) both of you need to back the heck off of kailea,

We have no problem with Kailea. We'd do the same to anyone else who came in here acting like they know everything, when they are infact completely clueless.

, I'd say Feba that posting in another thread that has nothing to do with what you two or three may have been arguing about earlier is a form of harassment,

This has everything to do with that thread. You might not have been around for it, but the point has been (and probably will be until Kailea smartens up and other learns him a book or stops posting on the subject) that his views on computers are dead wrong, and that's still the case.

all she is trying to do is help someone by giving her own OPINION and last time I checked an OPINION is not FACTUAL information.

Which is the problem. If you want to have an opinion, fine, have an opinion. However, when you start spewing off bullshit like it's factual, you will get shit.

And Saphiera, your statements are far more trolling than anything anyone else in this thread (including Kailea) has said. Keep a cool head, you really help out the people you argue against more than you damage them.

[Kitalrez]

Re: New Computer Configuration

AMD recently purchased ATI... well, recent as between the last time I bothered updating my drivers from ATI's website and a few months ago when I noticed. So, logically, it *should* work better if you combined the two, since they're now using the same basic source for chips/components.

There are, however, a number of other examples of things that *should* work and don't. For instance: The Iraqi's *should* welcome us, we're overthrowing Saddam! Who doesn't love an invading army? ;p

Mhurron is correct. Check the individual performance ratings on your components by looking at Tom's Hardware or Overclockers.com for side by side comparisons. (There are probably newer sites now). Things that should work great together sometimes don't.