Cool programming languages

[Mhurron]

Re: Cool programming languages

Python SUCKS

it might be good to learn 'proper' formatting, but forced whitespace is a giant pain in the ass.

Oh, and it was named for Monty Python which Guido likes, not the snake.

[Amele]

Re: Cool programming languages

Python SUCKS
it might be good to learn 'proper' formatting, but forced whitespace is a giant pain in the ass.
Oh, and it was named for Monty Python which Guido likes, not the snake.

previous post wasn't meant to be particularly serious: i realize the name was not in fact, for the family of reptiles that the icon so cleverly resembles.

python is also one of the cleanest and most powerful interpreted languages - just because you don't like readable code doesn't mean it's not a good language.

I mean, sure. I have some issues with the philosophy that says there should only be one (right/obvious) way to code something - since it flies in the face of what most other languages strive for and the desire deep down in all of us to make clever code; but there's alot to be said about a language that strives to minimize how much time it will take to understand the program when a new developer is brought on board.


for the record, most of my home projects are in C++ or VB.Net depending on what I'm up to. most of my business projects are in Java, C#, x86, C++ and C. depending, again, on what we're up to.

[Mhurron]

Re: Cool programming languages

Any language that pisses the programmer off because it forces something that should be a personal preference ( I hit enter a lot) is a bad tool. It doesn't force readability any more then any other language (is that a tab or 4 spaces at the beginning of this line?), and makes editing py files by anyone other then the original writer a pain because of forced white space.

I don't program much of anything, but there has to be a very specific reason for me to even consider Python. You can also call it clean and one of the most powerful, but really there's nothing it does that can't be done in any other.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: Cool programming languages

I'm picking up Ruby. It's the first language I learn but it looks a lot less painful to learn/use than many others. Also, LOLCODE makes me laugh.

Hence, the lol.

python is also one of the cleanest and most powerful interpreted languages - just because you don't like readable code doesn't mean it's not a good language.

I think what Mhurron meant by his post is that, if he's going to put whitespace down, it's going to be the way he wants to. Not in some way forced by the language.

EDIT: Mhurron beat me to explaining his own post . . . oh, well.



Personally, I need to get to studying programming languages sometime; I haven't ever studied anything but Java, and that was a ways back.

Question is, which code? They all have pros and cons . . . should I use something that isn't far away from Binary? Maye I could pick up a higher-level language, for ease of use? Or maybe, for the heck of it, I could study one of those joke laguages.

[Amele]

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Any language that pisses the programmer off because it forces something that should be a personal preference ( I hit enter a lot) is a bad tool. It doesn't force readability any more then any other language (is that a tab or 4 spaces at the beginning of this line?), and makes editing py files by anyone other then the original writer a pain because of forced white space.
I don't program much of anything, but there has to be a very specific reason for me to even consider Python. You can also call it clean and one of the most powerful, but really there's nothing it does that can't be done in any other.

you trade fixed whitespace for brackets. the same thing could be said about any language that enforces the use of bracketing or semi-colons (etc etc.) or requires a line to be a complete statement.

if you use something other than a vanilla text editor for your python (like, say, the colorized multiline editor, included with the VM, that converts tabs and spaces as you type them) it can be quite easy to track what is what.

Personally, I have alot of issues with how VB does some things too (like enforcing end of line characters as the end of a statement) but I appreciate that it's a powerful GUI language.

and one thing that I appreciate about python is the interactive model - something I haven't seen in other interpreted languages.

[Aeni]

Re: Cool programming languages

Any language that pisses the programmer off because it forces something that should be a personal preference ( I hit enter a lot) is a bad tool. It doesn't force readability any more then any other language (is that a tab or 4 spaces at the beginning of this line?), and makes editing py files by anyone other then the original writer a pain because of forced white space.

And that's why I like Ruby so much. I fell in love with it the first I laid eyes on it several years back. I've been mostly working with Ruby on Rails, as that's where my focus is atm (web development)

http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/about/

[Feba]

Re: Cool programming languages

Ruby on Rails

As a Wikipedian, this made me laugh.

[Rostum]

Re: Cool programming languages

I like C#.