Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

[LeonstrifeLEV]

Re: Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

You twit, there's no reason for Lv.20 gear to be relevant at 75.

Strider Boots - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more

But this is probably the only known exception I think.

[MrMageo]

Re: Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

Maybe I just don't see the excitment in keeping content and pixels ive been doing/had for many years relevant. I am tired of doing the same 6 events, at the same time. It is why I left 2 years ago. It will be why I will leave again if I have to endure more dynamis in a 18 man group at lvl cap 99, or sky at lvl 80. It will be why I leave if I use the same damn stavesIve used for the past 6 years, 24 levels, and merits.

I can understand you might have an attachment to pixels, you might get all hot and heavy over that awesome "insert item" that took you 6 years to get. But to me the content and gear choices in this game are beyond stale. Everyone using the same items for the same sets for 6 years. If SE doesn't obsolete most of this shit then the cap going up is redundant.

There are some items I think that shouldn't get lost (but they are already niche items anyway), But if I am level 99 and still using the same lvl 51 staves, then Ill be gone, and it will weigh heavily on my decision to bother with taking SE's next ride in 14.

[Karinya]

Re: Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

Old content is old, the game is in its last days

It's because of attitudes like this that SE may be about to ruin the game for people who are still enjoying it.

Not everyone has 80 hours a week to fully explore every bit of endgame content the week it comes out. (Heck, there's still new players joining that haven't reached 75 yet.) So lots of people are still enjoying this "old content". There's no reason the game has to be "in its last days" except for novelty junkies that run off whenever 5 minutes pass without a new shiny being dangled in front of them.

Well, unless all the old content becomes soloable jokes with junk for drops and they don't make much new content. That would drive away the players who would otherwise be there for the long term.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

Maybe I just don't see the excitment in keeping content and pixels ive been doing/had for many years relevant.

And maybe we should call Namco and ask them to make Pac-Man easier to play. Game's practically been around 30 years. Time to slow down those ghosts and make the power pellets last longer, right?

I am tired of doing the same 6 events, at the same time. It is why I left 2 years ago. It will be why I will leave again if I have to endure more dynamis in a 18 man group at lvl cap 99, or sky at lvl 80. It will be why I leave if I use the same damn stavesIve used for the past 6 years, 24 levels, and merits.

Your problem is people not content. No one makes you do these events ad nauseum but you. You joined the LS that tried to cram so much into one week and they never changed.

You wore yourself out. This game does not have to be about being a number or waiting in a long line for virtual toys. You knew what was expected of you when joined the endgame LS, you knew what demands would be placed on your in-game time and where you would have to be if you wanted new gear.

I have no sympathy for you, because there's going to be new endgame content and its just going to get more exclusive than it was before.

I can understand you might have an attachment to pixels, you might get all hot and heavy over that awesome "insert item" that took you 6 years to get. But to me the content and gear choices in this game are beyond stale. Everyone using the same items for the same sets for 6 years. If SE doesn't obsolete most of this shit then the cap going up is redundant.

Well, no shit, you only ever seem to be about RDM.

But this isn't about attachment to gear at all. I've been out six months and have no intention of coming back. No hard feelings, I was just done, it was time to move on. I want to play stuff on Wii and PS3 for now. Been missing out on that.

This is about the integrity of the experience. I shed no tears for how easy old endgame content is going to become, but my issue - you know, the one you seem to keep missing - is there seems to be no considerations made toward making that old content flow batter. Raising level caps alone doesn't cut it.

You're going to have more, smaller groups going after demi triggers or HNMs and the respawn times are still the same. Its not going to be that cool that smaller groups can do Dynamis or Limbus if the zones are not instanced or there isn't a reservation system in place.

Its not that big of a deal for this update, but the next two - it should be a big deal.

[GreatMno]

Re: Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

I'm pretty sure that at least me and some of LS mates on Gilgamesh are going to keep doing the current endgame content just because we it is fun. If there's new stuff, fantastic. If not, then we'll just shoot the breeze and kick a mission boss in the face. I don't know how long that will last.

Now, I must admit that I have not experienced any of the current content because I'm a 69 loldrg with crappy to mediocre gear. Maybe I'm way off. I bet not though.

[Aksannyi]

Re: Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

So basically all I got out of this thread was that Mr. Mageo is still just as annoying as he was two years ago when he "quit."

And that I still have no desire to play this game.

[Mhurron]

Re: Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

So basically all I got out of this thread was that Mr. Mageo is still just as annoying as he was two years ago when he "quit."

And that I still have no desire to play this game.

[Throgar]

Re: Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

well i hope the requirements will be something 75 could do alone. worst case for me would be:

lvl 80 -> all rise of the zilart missions done
lvl 85 -> all chains of promathia missions done
lvl 90 -> all aht urgahn missions done
lvl 95 -> all wings of the godess missions done
lvl 99 -> deafted every nm in the game

[Balfree]

Re: Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

lvl 80 -> all rise of the zilart missions done
lvl 85 -> all chains of promathia missions done
lvl 90 -> all aht urgahn missions done
lvl 95 -> all wings of the godess missions done
lvl 99 -> deafted every nm in the game

unlikely

[ShepardG]

Re: Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

I don't think SE spent 8 years coming up with this stuff just to go "Fuck it, let's do what Blizzard does." They spent a lot of time balancing one set of content and gear against another.

First part of the statement:

Lol, I think that's exactly what SE did! God bless us but SE is a fucking corporation. Their intent is to make money, and their damn good at it, but their cash crop, their dark ixion, their money fountain, FFXI, has been drying up over the past 4 years. The people that started playing FFXI are 7 years older now, fuck off if you think i have the schedule to accomodate camping HNM's all day and night, but nope, I still see people who have been playing since 05 missing sleep to stand around in dragons aery. They want to be exactly like blizzard, because blizzard's format is what's making the most money right now. plain and simple.

IMHO their doing it fucking wrong, and unless they instance, i mean truly instance, dynamis, einherjar, limbus, new stuff, their going to fail, and fail hard.

I mean really? the shadow lord BCNM "Fiat Lux".... 3 groups at a time???? are you fucking insane SE? You can look at who has access, and tell that having 3 groups at a time was just fail waiting to happen. I stood in like for 2-3 fucking hours before just to get my chance at entering. How can you not be worried that their going to screw this up.

the 2nd part is true, but what did that get them? the player base nickel and diming each other over 15 moe points of dmg, or 2% more Cure potency?? 2% out of 100 is fucking 2 HP...... do we realize how god damn pointless that is?

I'll see how this update goe's but unless the instance dynamis, i'll probably be packing up my warp cudgels and biding my time waiting on FFXIV. /rant

[Grizzlebeard]

Re: Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

Stuff

Two things.

It's fucking "THEY'RE"!!!

Oh, and I agree with what you said. I'm purposefully not buying the addon until I see how the update pans out. If the future of FFXI turns to be a free-for-all tardfest in non-instanced zones, a return to overcamping douchbaggery while exp'ing, and lazy content implementation in the form of pointless magian-style timesinks it's safe to say I'll be cancelling my sub like so many others on this forum.

[ShepardG]

Re: Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

I don't see what I did wrong (they're, their, they're, etc.) but I'm pretty sure i'm correct.

At life.

So...

and now this is happening

The game, you lose it.

[Mhurron]

Re: Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

I don't see what I did wrong (they're, their, they're, etc.) but I'm pretty sure i'm correct.

You're not.

"and their damn good at it"
"IMHO their doing it fucking wrong"

[ShadowHolyFlyingDragon]

Re: Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

Some polite points of reference to help remain realisitic:

Dynamis is not going to be instanced or fixed or repaired or made better. Let's get serious. Dynamis is like that big half-broken car you have outside in your driveway. Sure, you'd love to spend a Saturday and get it all worked on, get some buddies over to help you fix it and get it out of the driveway, but there's just so much shyt wrong with it and such a big pain in the azz, is it really worth yourtime knowing you're probably not going to get much mileage out of it anyway and you may as well just get a new car? That's SE's stance to me.

There may be some future instanced mission areas. I'll be nice and give SE the benefit of the doubt. But like Shep said, Fiat Lux is like a big slap in the face of "Wow, SE gets it! Wait... no?.... .ugh... and its been 8 years." (The wow part is no pun intended.)

Gear becoming obsolete is a statement that can be considered something of a misnomer, if you will. Nothing is really obsolete until you actually -own- something that makes your former thing no longer useful. Just because the potential for something being obsolete exists doesn't necessarily mean it will be obsolete to everyone. When was the last time everyone and their brother owned a Ridill to replace their Joytoy? I know plenty of peeps that busted their hinny to get a Joytoy and are just happy with that. Just one example.

I mean, it requires you to own a HL item in order to have your previously great item be obsolete. If you ask me, by the time Byakko's Haidate will be obsolete is when I get to 99 and can get Some Random A-Hole NM's Haidate... which probably, knowing SE's history, will be a holy-hell-insane camp my life away and miss school/work type of thing.

Again, I'm addressing the HL-Items becoming obsolete issue. It's probably, most likely, without doubt, going to happen. Will it suck? Well, I guess I forgot to realize that I'm not entitled to own everything I can see. So, if I have a sense of entitlement, then......it shore and probably and most likely will be a travesty. Otherwise, I enjoy my Joytoy and go play.

"But what about those 3 years I spent in Dynamis to get a Yoichinoyumi? Now there will be a better WS and a better weapon out to replace that? That's not fair!" My response would be, "That's life. The vinyl record got replaced by the 8 track, got replaced by the cassette tape, got replaced by the CD, got replaced by the IPoD, got replaced by etc. etc. You're in line, take a number; of the hundreds of people that have been out-classed and out-dated by progress. Besides, you're weapon served it's purpose for you long enough. How long do you intend to run around Al-Zhabi in complete douchery e-peen anyway? Wait.... don't answer that.

Life is change. You're either flexible or inflexible. The flexible improve the quality of their life. The inflexible keep whining about the Flat Tax. (That part was just a little political humor/jab. All in fun.)

People are going to leave regardless of what happens with FFXI. FFXI can't please everyone. I already have lots of friends mad that there is a level cap extension and refusing to level anything past 80 because "I've already hit the cap. I'm not going to work on another one." Because they remember all the pain and heartache and frustration of dealing with finding parties. And then you have people like me, who are esctatic about having a WHM with Convert and potentially doing new missions with a group of people (static or pick-up, it doesn't matter) and enjoying both the hell and happiness that comes with simple gaming and looking at new shinies and being able to go back with some friends and finish up missions that will be much easier to complete now. I'm happy with where the future of FFXI is going. I intended to still play because it gives me a thrill. It is old? Yah. But I don't subscribe to "here today, gone TAdAy" doctrine. It's still quite relevant.

But if you're unhappy... well, I'm sorry poohbear. :- (

[Elwynn]

Re: Exceed Your Limits: Level Cap to Be Lifted! (06/11/2010)

I mean really? the shadow lord BCNM "Fiat Lux".... 3 groups at a time???? are you fucking insane SE? You can look at who has access, and tell that having 3 groups at a time was just fail waiting to happen. I stood in like for 2-3 fucking hours before just to get my chance at entering.

That's 3 groups for all the fights that you can do in that zone, not just Fiat Lux. I heard about where (on some other server) there was a line in there like an Apple Store opening, just with people doing Fiat Lux, and some guys clawed their way up there to do a WotG mission fight. Oops.