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  • #61
    Re: Battle System Adjustments (03/05/2007)

    Originally posted by AKosygin View Post
    Coincidence? I think not. They do read and do something.
    I dont think they read of listen to anybody. It was becomming pretty obvious where the mass hub for players was at. An to keep with clogging an lagging issues this was the route they needed to take, An obvious one at that. Sadly it took then almost a year to realize what was going on.

    I mean if they read an cared, Botters an RMTS would have been delt with 4 years ago. If they cared 10k petition would have warranted a faster Bst fix..

    Listening or grasping for straws you make the call..

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    • #62
      Re: Battle System Adjustments (03/05/2007)

      *avoiding the whole BST thing*

      LyonheartLakshmi brings up a good point about going out of the way to get signet though... Finally a use for signet staves?
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      • #63
        Re: Battle System Adjustments (03/05/2007)

        Wait, exp band, cp gear and aketons weren't a use for signet staves/signet itself?
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        • #64
          Re: Battle System Adjustments (03/05/2007)

          Awesome, and perfect timing since I just started solo leveling another 20+ job.



          Now, if they could let me lock the 4 pieces of NPC gear...
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          • #65
            Re: Battle System Adjustments (03/05/2007)

            - Defense and evasion bonus won't apply when engaging T, VT and IT mobs.
            Where does it say that?

            Doesn't really address the issues of ToAU burn parties, but I'm lovin' these changes nonetheless.

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            • #66
              Re: Battle System Adjustments (03/05/2007)

              While this update doesn't touch upon numerous concerns the community has brought up, it's a nice change nonetheless. It'll make leveling low level jobs ALOT easier, as I can really just grab a partner from my LS and duo past Dunes levels and never have to deal with it again, which makes me a happy camper. And possibly use Worms in Korroloka as an alternative to leveling in Qufim. They checked EP to my 30 RDM yesterday, so I'm assuming it'd check EM around 18-20 hopefully.

              And Armando it lists it as a star right below the details regarding the Defense and Evasion boost. Although one common error I'm seeing(from the trolls on Gamefaqs anyway) is that people think that the exp thing also follows the no T-VT-IT rule, when the way its listed on the main page it doesn't seem to be the case. So am I right to assume I can duo/trio a VT and still get the exp bonus? Cause if so then I've basically gone to heaven .
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              • #67
                Re: Battle System Adjustments (03/05/2007)

                Oh, ok, I saw it now. Damn.

                Still, I agree. This is going to make the low levels soooooo much less painful.

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                • #68
                  Re: Battle System Adjustments (03/05/2007)

                  Originally posted by little ninja View Post
                  I dont think they read of listen to anybody. It was becomming pretty obvious where the mass hub for players was at. An to keep with clogging an lagging issues this was the route they needed to take, An obvious one at that. Sadly it took then almost a year to realize what was going on.

                  I mean if they read an cared, Botters an RMTS would have been delt with 4 years ago. If they cared 10k petition would have warranted a faster Bst fix..

                  Listening or grasping for straws you make the call..
                  =.=
                  I am beginning to question who really isn't listening or reading.

                  I think I spent three days now trying to tell you these things, I listened to them as a member of the community, and now I am relaying what they said several days ago in response to the community's pleas.
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                  • #69
                    Re: Battle System Adjustments (03/05/2007)

                    Originally posted by Clever Ninja View Post
                    They checked EP to my 30 RDM yesterday, so I'm assuming it'd check EM around 18-20 hopefully.
                    If I remember correctly they range from IT to IT++ at around 16.

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                    • #70
                      Re: Battle System Adjustments (03/05/2007)

                      I'm so duo'ing with my friend's DRG.

                      I think the TP thing could be a bit much... but I'm not gonna argue. Especially as someone who will win a fight if I can WS twice, but die if I cannot (Warrior soloing is far from incredible).

                      The Drk lovin' will be nice. Though I believe EQ's "Shadow Knight" had a similar spell to Dread Spikes.

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                      I'm not gonna join in on how terrible everyone is that's not a BST. But you non-BSTs, hear me: When a BST has to try so hard to arrange a "zoo" formation (a rediculous maneuver made to compensate for the MPK fix) only to have someone come over and voke a mob they just left, they get screwed. They often want back up pets so they can keep the flow of exp.

                      Parties:
                      -kill fast
                      -have members resting and readying for next fight while having one pull the mob for them
                      -only have to worry about the mob they're killing

                      Bsts:
                      -kill slower
                      -can only pull when not fighting or resting
                      -must worry about charm wearing off mid-battle, and often require back up pets. If not for security for success as much as for continuing to exp effectively.


                      With love,
                      Repion, the level 10 BST that hasn't used Charm since level 1.
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                      • #71
                        Re: Battle System Adjustments (03/05/2007)

                        Originally posted by AKosygin View Post
                        I think I spent three days now trying to tell you these things, I listened to them as a member of the community, and now I am relaying what they said several days ago in response to the community's pleas.
                        As nice as server migration may be...
                        As nice as picking a server may be...
                        As nice as windower for the PC version is...
                        As nice as the signet ajustment could is...

                        There's still more important things in the game that need fixing.

                        Jobs, sky, jobs, HNMs, jobs, Dynamis needs instancing, jobs.

                        Did I mention jobs? There are no job adjustments in this update save for more buffs to DRK. DRK has had enough turns at the job adjustment table, lets get back to them later, they're doing well right now.

                        When are they gonna get up and really do something for BLM, DRG or BST? Super Jump adjustment was cute but.... that's it? Plenty of gear issues have been adressed for DRG, but not in the way of job abilities - 50 to 74 is still a wasteland in that regard, just about every job in the game gets something there.

                        THF? Same thing.

                        BLMs will still be LFG after this update, people act like manaburn PTs and endgame love make up for that - it doesn't.

                        Almost two years since SE totally broke BST, just about as long since we got new jug pets. We've all managed to work around it, still, the job deserves some much-overdue buffing if we were "not intended to solo."

                        SE has simply catered to the majority of complaints, just because those complaints lie in the majority don't mean they're any more important than fixing what is really broken.

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                        • #72
                          Re: Battle System Adjustments (03/05/2007)

                          I wonder if they will make a enDrain spell? Sorta Diablo II and Diablo esque?

                          SE are you listening? Endrain please!

                          Oh, while I'm at it, Enaspir too


                          I don't get it where people are saying that by duoing or soloing you get 25% more exp. Isn't that only from the exp bands? You do get 15% more when you duo, vs. previously. It still doesn't mean your going to get an amazing amount of exp.

                          The best things for this patch is going to be the TP while resting, and Clear Body & evasion / defense while attacking 1 target.
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                          • #73
                            Re: Battle System Adjustments (03/05/2007)

                            @.@; Please have something nice for thf to come please. Anyways, as in the last post with the "may be..." that is a good point. But still they are nice and can't ignore nice things Yet, fixing the endgame world and leveling 50-75 with job adjustments should be next after this update, reguardless of how this update works after implentanting.
                            If they add endrain and enaspir, I'd like to see enlight out side of sacred maul and endarkness outside of those additional effects. Oh, maybe some fancy new weapons that's like Relic v2 but much much easier to gain than the dynamis relic if they don't fix dynamis drop rates x.x
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                            • #74
                              Re: Battle System Adjustments (03/05/2007)

                              Originally posted by Akashimo View Post
                              @.@; Please have something nice for thf to come please.
                              I remember they said something about Perfect Dodge doing critical attacks to the enemy so they can focus on the thief? Did they already implement this or did they not do this yet?
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                              • #75
                                Re: Battle System Adjustments (03/05/2007)

                                Nope T.T they didn't
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