FFXIV gets a 4.0 from Gamespot and other reviews & hilarious discoveries about FFXIV

[TheGrandMom]

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I take full responsibility for my actions and if I'm to be banned or reprimanded in some way then I'll fully accept that punishment.

Two tiers of punishment, first I have your wife beat you with a wet noodle once daily...ramen in case you are wondering. And next every post you make must contain 10% mews. This will commence for one week. Go!

[cidbahamut]

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I'm vetoing the mews part of the punishment, we already have too many of those.

[Aksannyi]

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Lol.

I didn't think the argument was really that serious. We've had much worse. I mean we didn't even get the super-annoying quote tree bullshit that people here like to dissolve all massive arguments into. (Which is the exact point at which I stop reading. Every thread it happens in. Seriously, quote trees are fucking evil and should be exorcised from any and all threads in which they begin to materialize And hell yes, this is a huge parenthetical aside. It's awesome, isn't it? I bet the sentence after the parentheses won't even make any sense after you read all of this mumbojumbo in the parentheses because I've gone off on such a tangent at this point. You're gonna have to reread the sentence before the parentheses. Don't you hate that? I do.) I just think you guys got a little snarky, then TGM came in with a bad mood (she said it herself) and everyone was like "OHSHI-------WHO DIVIDED BY ZERO" and stuff is all weird and shit now.

I for one wouldn't like to see Aeni suddenly post less simply because of a little argument that was contained to this one thread. Seriously. We all get into heated discussions sometimes. I have some infractions to prove it. In the end we still (mostly) get along and agree to disagree.

Anyway (long-winded nonsensical weirdness aside), don't quit posting here because you didn't get along with one person. And please don't start mewing, I really don't want my head - or anyone else's head - to explode. KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKE? ^________^

[Ufgt]

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I want to see 10% more mews from Aeni, especially in the SC2 thread.

[Icemage]

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Keep on keeping the faith, J9.

In the mean time, I'll be over in the other corner playing anything-but-FFXIV. You can believe all you like about Square-Enix and how they're oh so sorry for all the inconvenience, but words are just that - words. They're probably already too late to salvage FFXIV. The bad reviews are already out there. The first impressions are already out there for people to encounter on a Google search.

This game would have to magically improve 1000% in a few short months, and there's just no way that's going to happen. There are so very many systemic-level problems with the game and interface design, and that's not even scratching the surface. People are so fed up with the buggy software, vaguely insane UI, and nonsensical design choices that hardly anyone has spent any time looking at issues like game balancing. There could be huge mines floating in those waters ahead, only we can't see them right now in the fog of righteous indignation (however well-deserved).

PS3 launch will not save FFXIV by itself. Sure, there's going to be some people who simply don't have a PC with the muscle to run the resource-hog that is FFXIV PC, and I'm sure FFXIV will get some careful waters tested from such people who own a PS3. But console gamers are even less tolerant of terrible UI design than PC gamers, especially since there are so many examples of games with GOOD control design out there. PS3 owners have a LOT of competition for their time, and sure, not in the MMORPG space, but when your competition are titles like Gran Turismo, Call of Duty, Rock Band, etc. you're going to have to do a LOT better than just mediocre gameplay and broken socialization tools to get a PS3 owner to play an MMORPG instead of the many AAA-level titles they have at their disposal plus extra functions like Netflix and Blu-ray movie watching.


Icemage

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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This game would have to magically improve 1000% in a few short months, and there's just no way that's going to happen. There are so very many systemic-level problems with the game and interface design, and that's not even scratching the surface. People are so fed up with the buggy software, vaguely insane UI, and nonsensical design choices that hardly anyone has spent any time looking at issues like game balancing

I thought we were just talking about FFXIV, not Fallout: New Vegas, too.

Well, except people WILL accept such issues from Fallout: New Vegas, which is a complete fucking mess. PC gamers especially.

But when Japanese developers mess up a game, everyone makes a big shitstorm about it, even over the most minor of details. When Western developers fuck up, "ambition" and "scope" are always the scapegoats.

[Freelancer]

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I thought we were just talking about FFXIV, not Fallout: New Vegas, too.

Well, except people WILL accept such issues from Fallout: New Vegas, which is a complete fucking mess. PC gamers especially.

But when Japanese developers mess up a game, everyone makes a big shitstorm about it, even over the most minor of details. When Western developers fuck up, "ambition" and "scope" are always the scapegoats.

I guess people expect more from a Japanese developer, I know I do, or did but after the PS2 age they've been slowing down.

Though I expect more from Square.

I've already bought 6 months worth of crysta so I'll be in game for at least that.

They're either make it better and the time I put into leveling crafts pays off or it flops and dies and I just move to either another MMO or just stick with my original plan where I stop MMOing after XI and just go on with my life. (Which I don't want to )

Either ways I'm not bothered, most of my friends are waiting for my signal by xmas/ps3 release to say if the game is worth buying, and if not... then its no issue.

Just 2-3 more weeks for the 1st big update with all the UI and lag solutions. (though if you're in a completely empty place, theres no lag at all and its almost as fast as FFXI's UI)


which happens to be the start of 2 weeks holidays here so I'll get to test it out as much as I want.

[TheGrandMom]

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PS3 launch will not save FFXIV by itself.

I wouldn't be surprised if they decided not to release it on the PS3. They have to figure out how to solve the memory issues first. I'm curious to see how they do that. Add on RAM pack? lol So do they want to stick the resources (i.e. big bucks) into figuring that issue out with the way the game has been tanking?

[Freelancer]

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I wouldn't be surprised if they decided not to release it on the PS3. They have to figure out how to solve the memory issues first. I'm curious to see how they do that. Add on RAM pack? lol So do they want to stick the resources (i.e. big bucks) into figuring that issue out with the way the game has been tanking?

It'll totally flop if they don't release it on PS3.

[Raydeus]

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I guess people expect more from a Japanese developer, I know I do, or did but after the PS2 age they've been slowing down.

Though I expect more from Square.

This pretty much.

Sloppiness is kinda the trademark of Western developers (except for very few exceptions) so people seems to be just glad if their games run at all.


But when you see Japanese developers going so blatantly western you start to worry, a lot.

[jenova_9]

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I'm sure they planned the PS3 version since the beginning, but the stumbling block that forced a delay, may have caught them off guard a bit. They could surely make it work. Even if they have to diminish the PS3 version graphics to FFXI graphics, they will make it run smoothly on PS3.

[Malacite]

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Sloppiness is kinda the trademark of Western developers (except for very few exceptions) so people seems to be just glad if their games run at all.

Bungie, Blizzard, Bethesda (well minus Fallout: New Vegas LOL), Bioware, Rockstar and Treyarc say hi. Oh yeah not to mention Westwood Studios, DICE, Ensemble (they're gone now but they still count damn it, same with Westwood), Epic Games, 2K Games, Firaxis need I go on?

[jenova_9]

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Bungie had flaws. The Halo Reach disks are said to not run on some Xbox360s (embarrasing, mew!) and some said the online co-op doesn't work for some people. Not sure if they patched that yet but that was a serious real issue.

Blizzard.....they messed up WoW, causing many to quit, I heard.

Bethesda has some buggy and faulty games, including Fallout 3, Oblivion etc. Still playable but largely not polished enough.

Bioware had serious loading issues with Mass Effect 1. Buggy issues when using elevators, and Mass Effect 2 wasn't squeaky clean either. Jade Empire had some of the most rushed and careless endings ever designed.

DICE's Mirror's Edge felt more like a tech demo than a full game. Mediocre story, very bad taste in telling some parts of the story (2-D cutscenes? They should of kept it first person like Half-Life, and Half-Life has a better story.)
The cliffhanger was awful. Level design wasn't so great. Too many rooftop levels. Only one part where mirrors with actual reflections are used. I still have it but have no good reason to play it again.

But ya just some examples those companies mentioned are sloppy one way or another.

[DakAttack]

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I heard

Just stop.

An issue with discs not working would have never made it past certification. If the discs were manufactured and burned incorrectly, that's not an issue with Bungie.

All games have bugs. That's a fact of life. For every bug you see, there's a good handful more you don't. If you don't see any bugs, that's great, but they're there.

[Taskmage]

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Bethesda games are buggy as hell and always have been. I mean my god, did you play Daggerfall? It's just that Bethesda's technical failures are always covered up by their artistic successes.

People are also generally more forgiving of bugs in a single player context as opposed to online where people are either competing to progress as fast as possible and thus put up with and/or exploit bugs faster than others or are desperately fighting against the bugs in an attempt to cooperate with eachother.