Fish and Shards color coded Alchemy chart!

[Luna Flower]

Re: Fish and Shards color coded Alchemy chart!

Luna Flower, two things (if you're still checking here)...

1. The rank 20-22 recipes all should be Rank 21. I've already verified myself and using the established community formula I've calculated that to be consistent with those recipes. I suspect any other variations per tier are the same. I'll go and verify shard requirements as well because they seem to be inconsistent in that list.

2. I think it would be easier on the eyes to order them by rank. I find myself getting lost in that list trying to find rank appropriate recipes.

I would but looking at the actual code to change it is too confusing for me atm ><

[Aeni]

Re: Fish and Shards color coded Alchemy chart!

Luna Flower, two things (if you're still checking here)...

1. The rank 20-22 recipes all should be Rank 21. I've already verified myself and using the established community formula I've calculated that to be consistent with those recipes. I suspect any other variations per tier are the same. I'll go and verify shard requirements as well because they seem to be inconsistent in that list.

2. I think it would be easier on the eyes to order them by rank. I find myself getting lost in that list trying to find rank appropriate recipes.

[Luna Flower]

Re: Fish and Shards color coded Alchemy chart!

Well shit, time to go level fisherman I guess.

Someone sticky this.

Yeah I started leveling fishing too If you get Sea Pickles you can use CUL to HQ them into gold dust just an fyi. Also you can catch quite a few good fish in Grade 3 and below. Like Malm kelp, Sea pickles, Sea Cucumbers, Dark Bass, and Razor Clams.

[Malacite]

Re: Fish and Shards color coded Alchemy chart!

Well shit, time to go level fisherman I guess.

Someone sticky this.

[TheGrandMom]

Re: Fish and Shards color coded Alchemy chart!

We don't do bumping here. There is a search function, people will find it.

[Luna Flower]

Re: Fish and Shards color coded Alchemy chart!

-bump- I need more people to see this so we can add more recipes.

[Luna Flower]

Re: Fish and Shards color coded Alchemy chart!

Fishing is fun for in between or waiting on Behest. But because it requires so much inventory space (almost everything you catch stacks only to 12 and you get the annoying HQ versions) it's too bothersome for most players to deal with. I'm sure fishing would be a fine option if they could somehow to a separate page just for gathered items, like they already do for shards and crystals. If they were to do that, for sure, I would fish when I could.

I do agree, that would be freaking sweet lol. I am going to do 2 leve's a day for fishing and that is about as far as I am going to get in leveling it on a daily basis. Only bec its so useful for my ALC and CUL.

[Aeni]

Re: Fish and Shards color coded Alchemy chart!

Fishing is fun for in between or waiting on Behest. But because it requires so much inventory space (almost everything you catch stacks only to 12 and you get the annoying HQ versions) it's too bothersome for most players to deal with. I'm sure fishing would be a fine option if they could somehow to a separate page just for gathered items, like they already do for shards and crystals. If they were to do that, for sure, I would fish when I could.

[Luna Flower]

Re: Fish and Shards color coded Alchemy chart!

The biggest obstacle with this is fishing ... in order to progress with the craft meaningfully you will be required to spend most of your leve on the craft or else be stuck gaining a paltry rate of 1sp every 1.5sec (if you figure in the average sp gain for the appropriate zone, fish strikes, fish escapes and average out rates from New and Full Moon phases)

This means non interrupted 36 hours of fishing from R10 to R20. It then goes up to around 113 hours to R30. This is still under the best of circumstances and good gear (etc) I've logged into more New Moons than Full so I would get worse rates (1sp per 3sec?) which would mean around 50 or so hours to R20 and then another 160 or so to R30. If you spend 3 hours a night fishing (that would mean that would be all I'm doing every night) it works out to around 2 weeks to R20 and then 2 months to R30. By that time shards and crystals would be your last thing you need to worry about.

Bottom line ... just buy the shards/crystals.

Yeah I was gonna get ALC to 20 then start fishing forever.... Of course tho ^^ we have Romper Stomper in our ls. He is one of the highest ranked fishers on the palamecia server!! Only problem is he only fishes grade 4 and 5.

[Aeni]

Re: Fish and Shards color coded Alchemy chart!

The biggest obstacle with this is fishing ... in order to progress with the craft meaningfully you will be required to spend most of your leve on the craft or else be stuck gaining a paltry rate of 1sp every 1.5sec (if you figure in the average sp gain for the appropriate zone, fish strikes, fish escapes and average out rates from New and Full Moon phases)

This means non interrupted 36 hours of fishing from R10 to R20. It then goes up to around 113 hours to R30. This is still under the best of circumstances and good gear (etc) I've logged into more New Moons than Full so I would get worse rates (1sp per 3sec?) which would mean around 50 or so hours to R20 and then another 160 or so to R30. If you spend 3 hours a night fishing (that would mean that would be all I'm doing every night) it works out to around 2 weeks to R20 and then 2 months to R30. By that time shards and crystals would be your last thing you need to worry about.

Bottom line ... just buy the shards/crystals.

[Freelancer]

Re: Fish and Shards color coded Alchemy chart!

Oh... this is great.

Thanks for posting, now off to obtain a crap load of fish.

[Luna Flower]

Re: Fish and Shards color coded Alchemy chart!

Moved to FFXIV Alchemy discussion by request of OP.


Icemage

Thanks a lot ^^

[Icemage]

Re: Fish and Shards color coded Alchemy chart!

Moved to FFXIV Alchemy discussion by request of OP.


Icemage

[Luna Flower]

Re: Fish and Shards color coded Alchemy chart!

Oh my this is awesome. Alchemy is sweet!! and a reason to fish too!

I might be thinking of this incorrectly, but if lightning has a net gain doesn't that mean this class is now a shard/crystal factory? *drool*

Thanks a lot ^^ if you come across any recipes that are missing please let me know.
Oh and yes alchemy has become a crystal / shard factory. If you really want to do good in Alchemy I would suggest leveling Fishing, Culinary, and alchemy as your main crafts. They all go hand in hand rather nicely and you have a chance to make a lot of gil for when endgame and more nm's come around to use it on. Save Save SAVE!!!

[awesomeOmnislashing]

Re: Fish and Shards color coded Alchemy chart!

Oh my this is awesome. Alchemy is sweet!! and a reason to fish too!

I might be thinking of this incorrectly, but if lightning has a net gain doesn't that mean this class is now a shard/crystal factory? *drool*