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  • #16
    Re: Need help with Lv22 WHM

    Originally posted by Silenus
    Well, I guess you're cool with people buying accounts; we'll have to part ways on that issue.

    Could you go to a forum and start playing competently as a 22 WHM in Quifim?
    You're making a rather large assumption - that there are ANY good players in Qufim.

    I don't care how you get your account, really, as long as you play well. It's all semantics.

    Cheers to you both,

    -sam
    "And NO sprinkles! For every sprinkle I find... I shall kill you." -Stewie Griffin

    My job levels and goals.

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    • #17
      Re: Need help with Lv22 WHM

      lol I do hate Quifim with a passion.

      It was my first pt in Quifim as WHM; I solo'd WHM/BST to 22 just for the record.

      And I must admit to calling shenanaghians on the OP

      /equip Main "Broom Stick"

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      • #18
        Re: Need help with Lv22 WHM

        First rule to playing WHM:
        MP is your master, your baby, your slave, and your Precious. It rules you just as it rules the rest of the party. Coddle it with food and juice and it will serve you well. Abuse it and Death will come.

        Rule of Thumb: If you're not casting or running, take a knee.

        Second rule to playing WHM:
        Tanks are your friends. They live; you live.

        Rule of Thumb:Paladin tanks can be allowed to hover around the yellow/white hp line so they have some self-healing opportunities. On the other hand, Ninjas should be kept as full as possible because when ninja get hit, they get hit hard.

        Third rule to playing WHM:
        WHM are more than just the Cure.

        Rule of Thumb:Regen is your best buddy. DD a little low on hp but not getting hit, Regen. The puller comes in a little roughed up, Regen. That blm got slapped by the mob, Regen. Tank is doing ok, but needs a little "tidying up", Regen. (My personal preference is to keep Regen on the pld constantly, and only on the Ninja if s/he has a tendency to get hit occasionaly.)

        Fourth rule to playing WHM:
        Know your mobs.

        Rule of Thumb: http://mysterytour.web.infoseek.co.j.../us/index.html You don't have to memorize them all, but it helps to know the most common mobs you'll be fighting during your career (crabs, worms, spiders, pugils, crawlers, beetles, goblins, lizards, mandragora and bats). More importantly, know what bar-elemental spell to cast to help avoid status effects so you don't run afoul of Rule #1.
        The last remaining evil white mage on Ramuh.
        Killing tanks since 2004


        Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handey
        "I can picture in my mind a world without war,
        a world without hate.
        And I can picture us attacking that world,
        because they'd never expect it."

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        • #19
          Re: Need help with Lv22 WHM

          Woah, lets start any controversy out of this. An member in my LS won't be on for a few weeks so he asked me to Lvl his WHM while he was gone.
          And like i said, I dont know anything about using WHMs.

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          • #20
            Re: Need help with Lv22 WHM

            You should de-level it instead. You can always fall back on the not knowing anything about WHM explanation, and the lesson your LS mate learns will be more valuable than the XP.

            22 is a crucial stage in WHM development. Spells are appearing where there were none, the WHM is starting to explore different areas, their macro bars are growing larger. It's important your LS mate not miss out on this special, magical period of growth and change. Otherwise, later on, he might find himself whoring out teleports to any stranger with gil, wondering where it all went wrong.
            Ellipses on Fenrir
            There is no rush. If you're not willing to take your time, don't be surprised when no one wants to give you much of theirs.
            ,
            . . .

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            • #21
              Re: Need help with Lv22 WHM

              Besides, what's the point of playing this game, if you're not actually going to play it?

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              • #22
                Re: Need help with Lv22 WHM

                I guess the question to ask then is why is it so important for you to level his character for him while he's gone?

                Just as it's important that you know the ropes of how to play WHM if you're going to do it for him, it's equally important that he learn the basics of how to use the spells he has coming (and he's got some important ones on the way... like Raise and Stoneskin).

                I understand that you want to help him out, but honestly, this is not the way to do it. Playing FFXI (or any MMORPG) is not a race - you don't have to "keep up" with other players, and trying is just going to make you and everyone around you miserable.


                Icemage

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                • #23
                  Re: Need help with Lv22 WHM

                  I concur.

                  Set HP in Norg, run into crab, die, HP, rinse, repeat.

                  Think of all the fun your friend will have leveling through the dOOnz again!

                  Besides, it's a hellova funny thing to do to somebody stupid enough to hand out their password.

                  Thanks for answering my question, though, and it was just that, a question.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Need help with Lv22 WHM

                    Originally posted by Silenus
                    I concur.

                    Set HP in Norg, run into crab, die, HP, rinse, repeat.

                    Think of all the fun your friend will have leveling through the dOOnz again!

                    Besides, it's a hellova funny thing to do to somebody stupid enough to hand out their password.

                    Thanks for answering my question, though, and it was just that, a question.
                    Hah! "Isn't this how you level WHM? A friend of mine said all he does is die all the time, I thought that's what he meant."

                    -sam
                    "And NO sprinkles! For every sprinkle I find... I shall kill you." -Stewie Griffin

                    My job levels and goals.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Need help with Lv22 WHM

                      8. If the shit really starts to hit the fan and your party members are all in the red and you have mp problems, cast benediction. Keep in mind though, once you cast it, you will most likely not be able to get rid of the hate, so unless the mob is almost dead, you will most likely get killed.
                      If you have a PLD tank, hopefully he knows that he can in fact get that hate from you. Three cheers for Invincible!
                      Haggai

                      i Am ThE bLaCk MaGe.
                      I cAsTs ThE sPeLlS tHaT mAkEs ThE pEoPlEs FaLl DoWn.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Need help with Lv22 WHM

                        Originally posted by Haggai
                        If you have a PLD tank, hopefully he knows that he can in fact get that hate from you. Three cheers for Invincible!
                        I'll give you three scenarios, and you guess which one I most often have to use Benediction in:

                        WAR tank
                        NIN tank
                        PLD tank



                        Usually I can guess when they'll have time to kill the mob before I have to use Bene -- most of the time my party manages to kill the mob one hit prior to my death. Most of the time. I also keep Blink and Stoneskin up 24/7 while EXPing, so I get a few free hits.

                        I haven't had to use Benediction to save life in 20 levels or so, and WAR tanks are pretty much a thing of the past, so here's hoping my days of Benecide are over.

                        -sam
                        "And NO sprinkles! For every sprinkle I find... I shall kill you." -Stewie Griffin

                        My job levels and goals.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Need help with Lv22 WHM

                          lol @ Benecide

                          It's a PLD rite of passage to get hate back after bene without using invincible...ya, it surprised me as much as it did that WHM

                          Even funnier when the WHM thinks that the DRK "covered" him when he was gritting his teeth waiting for death.

                          Man that taru had guts...out on Revelation Rock in a pickup party and throws a huge bene out there just in time, fully expecting to die.

                          Had to tip my visor to him.

                          And no, he didn't die^^

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                          • #28
                            Re: Need help with Lv22 WHM

                            Our first Benecide is very much a rite of passage for young WHMs.

                            The next important one is using it, getting killed, reraising, pumping out a DS+CuragaIII, and dying again. Now that's a good time. :D

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                            • #29
                              Re: Need help with Lv22 WHM

                              Originally posted by avhmia
                              Our first Benecide is very much a rite of passage for young WHMs.

                              The next important one is using it, getting killed, reraising, pumping out a DS+CuragaIII, and dying again. Now that's a good time. :D
                              I've considered it, only in reverse.

                              I had been in a party for some large number of hours and was getting utterly exhausted. The party was in orange after a particularly nasty Hornfly or something, and I DS'd in preparation for Curaga II to get them back on their feet.

                              But I missed this message:

                              Puller : <Fishing> Some kinda fly <callxx>

                              And popped off my Curaga anyway. The whole rest of the party couldn't pull it off me. <dead>

                              I was watching their HP and MP bars, finger on the accept raise key, fully prepared to use Bene and die again. fortunately they won with no other deaths.

                              -sam
                              "And NO sprinkles! For every sprinkle I find... I shall kill you." -Stewie Griffin

                              My job levels and goals.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Need help with Lv22 WHM

                                Originally posted by samarium
                                And popped off my Curaga anyway. The whole rest of the party couldn't pull it off me. <dead>
                                I remember one time I was in an exp party killing gobs in Gustav Tunnel. There weren't any good camps for our level, so we were overhunting a little bit (every mob was giving max base exp), but thanks to some exceptional skill and gear on the part of our bard and melees, plus a truly awesome PLD, we were making OK exp, getting to chain 3 and an occasional 4. It was better than nothing.

                                The only complication of killing gobs that were just too high for us, were the gobbie bombs. They were eating us up so bad that the bard actually considered using Fire Carol to help my Barfira, but after trying it, it was obvious the melees needed their normal buffs much more.

                                Anyway, despite the difficulty, it was a pretty laid back party. The RNG and the BLM were bickering over who was a better DD (as RNGs and BLMs are wont to do ^^), and the PLD was putting up with their attempts to spike damage and pull hate with very good humor. They could each turn the mob pretty easily, but not for more than a few seconds.

                                Anyway, we had this particularly annoying Alchemist that just wouldn't stay down. He was self-curing, and my Silences were getting resisted all over the place (no RDM ; . He did a nasty bomb toss, dropping everyone in to the orange. Since I was feeling punchy, I responded with a DS+CuragaIII, getting the mob's attention pretty squarely. I ran down to the melees so the gob wouldn't blow up the Taru BLM and BRD. The PLD's voke and flash were both down, and he'd used Invince already in the party. I flashed, managed to get stoneskin up, just as the gob bombed again. This time I used Benediction. The mob continued to pummel me.

                                The PLD voked and flashed, to no avail. At that point, the RNG dropped the gob with a well timed EES.

                                We sat there for a second, bruised and bloodied (well, I was pretty bloodied, with my double-digit hp). Then the PLD says, "Okay guys, WHM wins."

                                It was definitely a :D moment in my WHM career. BLM? RNG? Pfft, amatuers.

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