Ideal Macro layout for WHMs?

[aegina]

Re: Ideal Macro layout for WHMs?

i'm on ps2, so i don't use macro's very much.

i have:

alt-2 : /ma regen <st>
/recast regen
/wait x
/echo ~~~~~regen ready!!!!!~~~~~~
alt-3 : group buffs



ctrl-9 : /s MP = <mp> thats <mpp>
ctrl-0 : /p MP = <mp> thats <mpp>



thats it. the rest are all silly emotes. my whm is 27 atm, but i dont forsee many more macros coming any time soon. i keep my spells sorted manually, and just cast them from the menu. this is how i play all jobs, rarely using more than 3 macros per job.

i don't have anything on alt-1 because thats where i normally put my /ra <t> macro for other jobs. my hands seem to instinctively avoid that box unless i want to shoot something ^^

regen rulz!! as long as you keep that one spell on anyone who might get hit, you almost never even need to cure! recover 150 hp for 15 mp cost? (yes please) I regen lol.

and no, you don't need any party chat on 99% of your macros. don't put: /p casting cure~~~~ squiggly line!! <annoyingsound41> with your macro. nobody needs party chat. the only macros i have with party chat, aside from /p mp = <mp> are for my group buffs (/p group hug! {protectra} {shellra}). my samurai has some cool party chat on my meikyo shisui macro, and my thf still has pt chat when i cast utsusemi, but that's about it.

[Icemage]

Re: Ideal Macro layout for WHMs?

i'm on ps2, so i don't use macro's very much.

Huh?

What does being on PS2 have to do with using macros? I use a PS2 controller on my PC and I still use lots of macros - at least 1 full panel per job, sometimes a bit more (gearswaps for RDM, etc.). If anything, being on PS2 makes you more reliant on macros, not less, since you're less likely to want to drop your controller and type in a command.


Icemage

[Kurgan]

Re: Ideal Macro layout for WHMs?

I use a gamepad controller so I like to try to keep my spells well organized for quick macro set changes and I prefer to use (st) (stpc) and (stnpc) as much as possible.

You'll notice how all of my Ctrl macros for set #3 are generally all curing/divine/enhancing spells used on myself or my teammates where all the Alt macros in that set are more enfeebling/melee/battle macros.

You'll see a similar trend in how I separated the bar[status]ra (Ctrl) spells from the bar[element]ra (Alt) spells in macro set #4. With the remaning space, I put the -na spells at the end slots of both rows for Ctrl and Alt. I however prefer to keep Erase on my main WHM macro set.

Last of all, you'll notice my "adventuring" macro set #5. I used to have a macro for bringing up the map on each macro set for each job, but have since started just bringing up the main menu and selecting map when I needed to make room for other macros in a single macro set for a particular job. I've however kept the "Map" macro in my adventuring set. I also use this macro set when I need to perform Warps, Tractors, Raises, or Reraise on myself. I also threw in Oil/Powder macros as I find it's nice to be able to quickly use these quickly. These are macros I don't use often but are handy to have for both WHM and BST/WHM (you'll see that my BST macros are conveniently located right below all my WHM macros for quick macro set changes using the gamepad).

I tend to use the HUD or manually type in all the other spells I may only occasionally use like Banish I/II/III, Holy, and Curaga II+. Elemental Seal and Benediction I press Ctrl-J to use when I need them.

I'm sure I'll rearrange a bit once I get my SMN job up sufficiently to use as a subjob.


Set #1 is my PLD macros
Set #2 is my BST macros for lv40 cap (BCNM, etc)

Set #3 WHM Cure/Enfeeble and spells I need to get to most frequently when playing WHM

Ctrl-1: Cure II (st)
Ctrl-2: Cure III (st)
Ctrl-3: Cure IV (st)
Ctrl-4: Cure V (st)
Ctrl-5: Regen III (stpc)
Ctrl-6: Divine Seal (me)
Ctrl-7: Curaga (stpc)
Ctrl-8: Sneak (stpc)
Ctrl-9: Invisible (stpc)
Ctrl-0: Buffs [Gives notice to party to gather, casts Protectra then Shellra]

Alt-1: Dia II (stnpc)
Alt-2: Paralyze (stnpc)
Alt-3: Slow (stnpc)
Alt-4: Haste (stpc)
Alt-5: Silence (stnpc)
Alt-6: Melee [equip Darksteel Maul and engage current target]
Alt-7: Stoneskin (me)
Alt-8: Heal [equips Light staff and Errant Hpl. and does /heal]
Alt-9: Fight [equips Light staff and targets and locks mob using /assist or /ta (bt)]
Alt-0: Erase (stpc)


Set #4 Bar-ras and -nas

Ctrl-1: Barsleepra (me)
Ctrl-2: Barpoisonra (me)
Ctrl-3: Barparalyzra (me)
Ctrl-4: Barblindra (me)
Ctrl-5: Barsilencera (me)
Ctrl-6: Barvira (me)
Ctrl-7: Barpetra (me)
Ctrl-8: Poisona (stpc)
Ctrl-9: Paralyna (stpc)
Ctrl-0: Viruna (stpc)

Alt-1: Barstonra (me)
Alt-2: Barwatera (me)
Alt-3: Baraera (me)
Alt-4: Barfira (me)
Alt-5: Barblizzara (me)
Alt-6: Barthundra (me)
Alt-7: Silena (stpc)
Alt-8: Stona (stpc)
Alt-9: Blindna (stpc)
Alt-0: Cursna (stpc)


Set #5 Adventuring macros; Teleports, Warps, Oil & Powder, Raises, Reraises, etc.

Ctrl-1: Teleport-Holla (me)
Ctrl-2: Teleport-Dem (me)
Ctrl-3: Teleport-Mea (me)
Ctrl-4: Teleport-Altep (me)
Ctrl-5: Teleport-Yhoat (me)
Ctrl-6: Teleport-Vahzl (me)
Ctrl-7:
Ctrl-8: Oil (me) [uses /item "Silent Oil"]
Ctrl-9: Prism (me) [uses /item "Prism Powder"]
Ctrl-0: Map [/map]

Alt-1: D2 (st) [Warp II, for when I need to D2 anyone on my BLM40 job]
Alt-2: Reraise (me)
Alt-3: Reraise II (me)
Alt-4: Reraise III (me)
Alt-5: Raise (st)
Alt-6: Raise II (st)
Alt-7: Raise III (st)
Alt-8: Tractor (st)
Alt-9: Escape (me)
Alt-0: Warp (me)

Set #6 is my normal BST macros
Set #7 is my NIN macros
Set #8 is my SMN macros
Set #9 is my BLM macros
Set #10 still has my old PLD/THF farming macros

[Orpheausjr]

Re: Ideal Macro layout for WHMs?

hey how would you set up a swap equipment and rest macro?

[Icemage]

Re: Ideal Macro layout for WHMs?

hey how would you set up a swap equipment and rest macro?

/equip main "Dark Staff"
/equip equip legs "Baron's Slops"
/equip body "Errant Houppelande"
/equip l.ear "Relaxing Earring"
/equip waist "Heirarch Belt"
/heal

Something like that should work.


Icemage

[Sharpedo]

Re: Ideal Macro layout for WHMs?

god you WHM are so lazy sometimes
you actualy getting bored with selecting the right party member
while you got the hotkey right in front of you lol F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6
ever heard of it???????

anyway here is my setup


Macro Set #2 CTRL line

1: /ma "Cure" <t>
2: /ma "Cure II" <t>
3: /ma "Cure III" <t>
4: /ma "Cure IV" <t>
5: /ma "Regen II" <t>
the famous MP saver most WHM don't even use this lol
6: /ma "Haste" <t>
ok now this one i NEED to DELETE you think i'm actualy gonne waste 40 MP
when a RDM is in the party???? like NOT
7: /ma "Poisona" <t>
8: /ma "Silena" <t>
9: /p "Refresh" or "Ballad" "Yes, please." <call20>
not a single word about this one, BRD and RDM can't even recast on time
0: /p STAT * HP <hp> MP <mp> / <mpp> <call21>


Macro Set #2 ALT line

1: /ma "Poisona" <t>
2: /ma "Paralyna" <t>
3: /ma "Blindna" <t>
4: /ma "Stona" <t>
5: /ma "Viruna" <t>
6: /ma "Cursna" <t>
7: /equip main "Thunder Staff"
what can i say i'm a elemental hunter
8: /equip main "Ice Staff"
what can i say i'm a elemental hunter
9: /equip main "Light Staff"
best thing for a WHM lvl 51+ if you can get this staff then GET IT
0: /equip main "Dark Staff"
wel everyone needs to rest at some point, boost up my resting MP, this and refresh
and your back up and curing in no time


1: this is the only macro set i have for WHM
2: i'm a professional static WHM lvl 58 at the moment
3: i can easely solo EP monsters unlike some WHM with no P&S, stoneskin or blink
4: why you need to macro the curaga or bar.... spells? they are right there if you need them

As for the equipment:

Head: Crow Beret lvl 50, DEF 15, EVA+4, Enmity-7
Body: Crow Jupon lvl 50, DEF 28, EVA+8, Enmity-8
Hands: Crow Bracers lvl 50, DEF 10, EVA+5, Enmity-4
Legs: Crow Hose lvl 50, DEF 20, EVA+5, Enmity-5
Feet: Crow Gaiters lvl 50, DEF 8, EVA+4, Enmity-4
Neck: Spirit Torque lvl 38, MP+10, EVA+5
Waist: Silver Obi+1 lvl 20, DEF 3, Spell interruption rate down 8%
Back: Black Cape lvl 32, DEF 3, INT+2
Ear 1+2: Energy Earring+1 lvl 10, DEF 1, MP+4
Ring 1+2: Astral Ring lvl 10, onverts 25 HP to MP

Extra information for WHM:

don't bother buying +MP for everything
the more MP you got the more downtime it means for the party
i got a evasion of +31 in case i would ever take hate from the monster
i got a Enmity of -28 so i can easely spam cure4 how ever i feel like it and even
use Benediction and not even get hate

Now i you want to discus my equipment or setup then bring it on
i'm always up for a little discussion

[Jubbermuffin]

Re: Ideal Macro layout for WHMs?

Good to see that however old this thread was originally, someone still chimed in with the "refresh/ballad please" macro. -_-

[nothed]

Re: Ideal Macro layout for WHMs?

I'm embarresed to say that I ain't figured out how to set macros.

[framerate]

Re: Ideal Macro layout for WHMs?

So you really think "Help me, {Provoke}" macro's are bad?

They've saved my butt quite a few times lately...

[Jubbermuffin]

Re: Ideal Macro layout for WHMs?

I think "omg haste/refresh/regen/ballad" macros are bad, yes. They are a waste of space and nine times out of ten completely unnecessary. If someone in your party is so crap that they repeatedly are falling behind on their duties to the point that it's making your job harder to do, they need to be kicked out of the party.

Case in point, I had a ninja tank who used a "haste please <call3>" macro the moment haste wore off. It was not reassuring to me to know that he was taking time out of his blink tanking routine to hit a patronising macro like that. Guess what? WHMs see when buffs wear off, unless your filters are completely screwed up, in which case change them!

I reiterate my original point; if a party or specific party member is so bad that you need a voke/refresh/song buffs macro, either leave the party or get them out of the party. Occasionally people fall behind on their routines, absolutely everybody in the game does it at some point, but if you're having to request something so often that it's better to take up a macro bar slot than just type something with the auto-translator, that person needs a severe kicking.

[Naruto260]

Re: Ideal Macro layout for WHMs?

hrm u guys have so many macros. do they help? i've aways just done it through the menu i have a protectra macro thats about it

[aegina]

Re: Ideal Macro layout for WHMs?

casting your spells from the menu is just fine. i used to just cast everything from the menu.

and this response may be a little late, but:

Huh?

What does being on PS2 have to do with using macros? I use a PS2 controller on my PC and I still use lots of macros - at least 1 full panel per job, sometimes a bit more (gearswaps for RDM, etc.). If anything, being on PS2 makes you more reliant on macros, not less, since you're less likely to want to drop your controller and type in a command.


Icemage

typing commands? what commands? i meant i just used the menu. i'm waaaaaaaay too slow a typer to chicken-peck out "/ma "Paralyze" <t>" or w/e spell every time i need to cast. by the time i found the third letter, the fight will be over, and the puller is pulling the next mob

there's lots of different ways of doing things, not just macros. you can use the translater, too. type /ma pois and press tab. "Poison" will show up. you can then use it to quickly cast /ma (poison) <t> or /ma (poison)a <t>, and i don't think you even need the <t> on this.

iv'e started using macros a lot more often since i learned how to write them, but i don't see a problem with prefering the menu, if that's what you like to do. just do what you find comfortable. like icemage, i have a full pallet/almost a full pallet for each job i play, sometimes more than one pallet.

ideally, the best way would be to learn more than one way if doing things. what i mean is, learn how to do everything with just the menus, how to do everything with just the translator and other typed commands, and how to write macros. then just use whichever method is best for that moment. but that would take so much work... x.x so just use whichever method you prefer. but here, however, is where we discuss good ideas

[Icemage]

Re: Ideal Macro layout for WHMs?

Case in point, I had a ninja tank who used a "haste please <call3>" macro the moment haste wore off. It was not reassuring to me to know that he was taking time out of his blink tanking routine to hit a patronising macro like that. Guess what? WHMs see when buffs wear off, unless your filters are completely screwed up, in which case change them!

Actually, you *can't* filter away buffs that wear off. There is no chat filter setting for it, so if you miss it, that's totally your own fault.


Icemage

[x1ang]

Re: Ideal Macro layout for WHMs?

you can, however, change the chat color to like hot pink or something so that it's easier to spot out... i think (either that the option was missing there as well, can't exactly remember :X)

[Icemage]

Re: Ideal Macro layout for WHMs?

You can't alter the chat appearance of "X effect wears off" at all. It always appears as white text, and you can neither filter it out nor color it (which is a shame in this case).


Icemage