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  • #16
    Forgot to mention:

    1) You can actually use sam/war or sam/whatever to exp with until lvl 55 through 57. Around level 55 or 56, you should use Sam/rng in skillup (I don't recommend sam/rng in exp pt until 57) parties using the Archer's Knkife to get Archery maxed. Hopefully, you'll be able to get Archery to a decent skill lvl from Sam before you decide to lvl rng.

    Then, when Sam hits 57. Tadaa! It's time for Sidewinder. Unfortunately, Sidewinder is only good until lvl 65. Then you'll be back to using gkt for light and/or dark renkeis because Sidewinder is too unreliable to make lvl 3 renkeis with as a Sam. But, you can stay Sam/Rng 65+ for the Accuracy Bonus, Widescan, and Alertness abilities from Rng. Especially, if you pull a lot like I do.

    2) You can completely ignore Marksmanship and stick with Bow for rng. You won't need Marksmanship for low lvl Rng and pt's will ask you to use Bow anyway. This is one of the reasons lvling Rng cost me so much because I lvled both. Grr.

    Edit: You can actually use your taru character for all this if you wanted to. The drawback is lack of strength/atk obviously. However, Taru Agi is pretty high and Dex is comparable to Hume. Also, a lot of ppl tend to invite taru melees for the cuteness factor. Curiousity can also get you in ("I wonder how a taru looks using *such and such weapon skill*") The biggest drawback as far as I know with Taru Sam and Rng is beating Maat for G5 and prolly lack of BCNM invites. But strolling around Jeuno in full Sam AF as a taru will prolly get you a lot of checks and "Woah"s. lol But, Mithra Dex and Agi is top notch for both Sam and Rng.

    Just thought I'd put the thought out there.

    Title: Sergeant Major
    SAM75, RNG75, PUP75, PLD60, My NPC65
    Bastok Rank 10, San d'Oria Rank 10, Windurst Rank 10
    Missions: Completed/Zilart Completed/CoP Completed/ToAU: Playing the Part-Sergeant Major
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Bloodberry
      Rodin, I see you have already a lv17 blm. but before you say something about a job, they are weak with that or hard to get.. blah blah. just play this job till lvl65+ and then post your comment and not before! most people just post something what is not true and its just a rumor..
      Rodin is my second character...

      I had a SAM character. I deleted it out of frustration. It took me hours to get invites. I don't know anything about playing samurai after the TP nerf, but I'm really starting to think about getting samruai again.... When I played it took hours to get a damn invite and I could never get a party with a decent blm. Also, a samurai is ONLY needed in a party with a blm. A lot of parties are starting to prefer RDMs over BRDs because RDMs are a lot more common than a BRD. So they think that since the RDM can MB (which is totally freaking wrong, if you want a decent MB) That you don't need a blm. Which in turn makes less room for a samurai.
      Rodin - Ragnarok Server (Out of Retirement)
      90BRD 90SMN 90WHM 75BLM 75RDM 61BST 50RNG 37NIN 37THF

      Goal: All jobs max level and capped merits.

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      • #18
        You must have sucky parties or you must've sucked as a SAM. If you chain correctly the skillchain itself will create large amounts of damage. Magic Bursting is an add on, it's exploiting enemy's weaknesses through SC that is the SAM's main job. SAM does not need a BLM to work.

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        • #19
          I probably had sucky parties. And if you want a GOOD party as a SAM it will have a BLM in it. Who cares about a Skillchain that can do 200 damage when a BLM can burst off of the skillchain for a freaking 1000+ dmg MB. You might want to think about what you said about a samurai not having a BLM to be effective. BLM is a SAMs best friend.
          Rodin - Ragnarok Server (Out of Retirement)
          90BRD 90SMN 90WHM 75BLM 75RDM 61BST 50RNG 37NIN 37THF

          Goal: All jobs max level and capped merits.

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          • #20
            Im only lvl 34...but i havent seen a blm get near that in one of my partys..bursting or not.
            The word gen means 'illusion' or 'apparition.' In India, a man who uses conjury is called a genjutsushi ['a master of illusion technique']. Everything in this world is but a marionette show. Thus we use the word gen.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Gen
              Im only lvl 34...but i havent seen a blm get near that in one of my partys..bursting or not.


              Level 34.....That's too low for a 1k MB. When you get into the 55+ area you'll start seeing 700-1k magic bursts and you will be freaking awed.
              Rodin - Ragnarok Server (Out of Retirement)
              90BRD 90SMN 90WHM 75BLM 75RDM 61BST 50RNG 37NIN 37THF

              Goal: All jobs max level and capped merits.

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              • #22
                Then what weak weak SC's were you doing? As i understood it MB was an addon to the SC..not a end all say all on if its a good one or not
                The word gen means 'illusion' or 'apparition.' In India, a man who uses conjury is called a genjutsushi ['a master of illusion technique']. Everything in this world is but a marionette show. Thus we use the word gen.

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                • #23
                  in 50s, with a good BLM MBing, normal is 800-1300-ish. I am not a big fan of being in a party without a blm, or even a 1 SC pt. =/
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                  too many assholes choosing money over friends

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                  • #24
                    A properly played RDM can MB for very decent damage. Key word there, is properly.

                    I also like having BLM in my pts, but I've been in a few that didn't. Still worked out though My personal fav tho, is throwing a thf in there at 65+. Gotta love Tachi: Enpi > Dancing Edge with the THF, then Swift Blade > Tachi: Gekko with the PLD. I find those 2 jobs, BLM & THF, are the best jobs to play with as a SAM (with WAR sub so you can set the fui up)

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