Broken Enfeebling Magic...

[Pteryx]

Re: Broken Enfeebling Magic...

I will say this: elemental accuracy seems to matter more than enfeebling skill. While I didn't parse it or anything, I did notice that against your typical Dvucca-region Heraldic Imps, a single wind accuracy merit seemed to swing the balance on landing Silence from full resists more often than not to landing more often than not, while the effects of my first enfeebling merit were not so dramatic. I have no real endgame experience, though, so I'd have to let others comment on how useful such merits are there, but it's something to at least give a shot... -- Pteryx

[WishMaster3K]

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Accuracy is surprisingly still pretty ambiguous as far as magic goes.

But I HAVE noticed a change in landing or Para ever since I capped Ice.

[Aeni]

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Getting enfeebling to land on those imps is equivalent to trying to get it to land on Kirin. Very frustrating and makes some of the newer players think I'm not doing my job. What is frustrating is that these imps seem to sacrifice a bit of physical defense in return for magical resistance. I seriously think SE was trying to shaft magic users in this expansion...

Although landing Gravity hasn't been much of an issue and is the only real way for me to raise enfeebling skill w/o seeming to waste my MP (Although there is Dia and Bio ...)

[ItazuraNhomango]

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Has anyone tried:

Doton: Ni/San -> Gravity
Futon: Ni/San -> Paralyze

The -ton Ninjutsu series seem to have pretty good accuracy, IIRC. Using them to lower resist may help?

[Callisto]

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Yeah, Imps are very hard to land Slow, Blind, and Silence on. And I think you're right about ToAU, I think in a way they did it to make up for how nearly all of CoP could be done easier as a BLM or SMN burn than with a 'real' party.

[Callisto]

Re: Broken Enfeebling Magic...

Has anyone tried:

Doton: Ni/San -> Gravity
Futon: Ni/San -> Paralyze

The -ton Ninjutsu series seem to have pretty good accuracy, IIRC. Using them to lower resist may help?

It definitely would help...finding a good enough NIN who actually carries all tools and is willing to cast them specifically when you need just to help you out, that's pretty rare, at least in terms of an XP party.

[ItazuraNhomango]

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at least in terms of an XP party.

I thought the talk about unable to land Gravity/Parlyze/Silence was about Gods/HNM/Mission boss fights?

I counting my lucky stars when PUG tanks remember to Provoke and pullers realize they should use Utsusemi when on /NIN... So not counting on them to help land enfeebs. x_x;

[Callisto]

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I thought the talk about unable to land Gravity/Parlyze/Silence was about Gods/HNM/Mission boss fights?

I counting my lucky stars when PUG tanks remember to Provoke and pullers realize they should use Utsusemi when on /NIN... So not counting on them to help land enfeebs. x_x;

Oh, the OP was, but Aeni's post that I was responding to was regarding Caederva Mire Imps, I thought you were talking about those as well

[Icemage]

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RDM HNM enfeebling is feast or famine. You can have every piece of enfeebling gear and only get 10-20% accuracy at best on some spells. Other times, you get 90% even with no additional merit points or special gear equipped. It just depends on the enemy and the spell in question; your skill and gears don't figure very prominently into the equation (obviously having it is better than not, but it's not the night and day difference some people make it out to be).


Icemage

[hongman]

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I'll back what Icemage just said there with a bit of personal experience.

One particular Kirin run, I managed to land a fair amount of Binds, and around 85% of all my Gravity's.

Next run, which also happened to be in Windsday, (all other variables the same) and I couldnt hand Gravity for more than maybe 40%.

Although, on Mire Imps, I didnt have much problem landing the all important Silence past lvl 70 or so. I havent merited there (I HATE that place, always packed) since I first dinged 75 and got a crap load more gear.

[Aeni]

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Although, on Mire Imps, I didnt have much problem landing the all important Silence past lvl 70 or so. I havent merited there (I HATE that place, always packed) since I first dinged 75 and got a crap load more gear.

Once, even with Elemental Seal, Silence got resisted and the party ate a -aga spell -_-

But you said post 70, so I'm still 3 levels shy of that xD

[WishMaster3K]

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The day RDMs can land Silence on Ahrimans is the day I will finally be happy.

[Mhurron]

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The day RDMs can land Silence on Ahrimans is the day I will finally be happy.

You mean I can't? Last time I tried I was lvl25, so I dunno.

[Callisto]

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I've had TW Ahrimans resist my Silence casts on a regular basis. Then watched a WHM land one on the Sleepga II NM without Elemental Seal. That was a sad, lonely night for me.

[hongman]

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Once, even with Elemental Seal, Silence got resisted and the party ate a -aga spell -_-

But you said post 70, so I'm still 3 levels shy of that xD

At 67, noone would expect you to be able to land Silence reliably. So dont feel bad Each level up you will notice a fair chunk of resists go away as well.



Just a lilttle side note, in Dyna-Sandy, I noticed with my new Pimp Hat v2 (+15 Enfeeb) I had not a single resist on Silencing the eyes. Which was cool.