Worse PC you've Partied With/seec

[Darkedge]

Wish, why not just take RDM to 30 asap to unlock more jobs? The farther ahead of the 1-30 range you get the more you realize nothing that happens then matters. Like a 1.8k exp per hour party. Omfg that rox0rs lower levels but later on below 3k is crap.

You can make your own parties, descriminate, and not invite low ranked people. It sounds bad, but ive seen rank2 RNG in CN that didn't know how to skillchain. I'm rarely leader of my own parties since as a WHM I get invites while farming and not lfp, but I only invite people >= rank3 when no one else is seeking

[WishMaster3K]

/sigh

You know how often that thought crosses my mind? I was really eager to try the "wildcard" RDM subs like DRK and NIN, but you see how ppl discriminate against you if your sub is underleveled by ONE level. Whatever, i'll just decide to avoid all the misguided and biasedness by lvling my subs.

Oh, this is like the 100th time, but did i mention that soloing as BLM and WHM is nothing like soloing as a RDM... you know... Boring? Damn, i hate the dunes... Well, I'll never use SMN, so I'm able to sell low-level equipment (WHERE THE HELL CAN I PUT MY DEFAULT GEAR!?!?!?!?!) which is a plus of lvling subs...

Oh, and Neighbor- for SHAAAMEEE!!!! :p

Ah, j/k. I would like there to be an instance where my nukes shock and wow the entire pt.... And why the hell does my Fire do 49+ sometimes damage and then switches and does 9 or something weak? nvm, i'll research the board.

[Ungerpurr]

I was primarily just pointing out that your sub was behind. I think you understood that though. ^^

There are several things that are black and white regarding job/subjob combos, there are no shades of gray in-between, as far as I'm concerned. For instance:

Does the person have a valid sub?
This is either yes or no. Not directly squarely at you, but in general, I don't really care if a particular melee such as...say, mnk, has a drg sub vs. a drk sub. They're both bad subs, and that's what matters. Or, for a rdm, I don't care that a pld sub is more useful than a war sub. Both suck.

Does the person have a fully-leveled sub?
Also, it's either yes, or no. Whether it's a 22/10 or a 75/1, what's important to me is a fully-leveled sub. Imho, it's irrelevant exactly how far behind the sub is. A fully-leveled sub shows that you care about your character enough to be at your best. Suppose you are missing out on one point of int and 3-7 MP. At your level, assuming you have the basic "decent" gear already, adding that one point of int or 3-7 MP through gear could cost anywhere from 30-50k gil. On that level, it's a significant difference.

Another example of this kind of thing could be whether or not the person is using a valid food - for mages this would be virtually any sort of piel, chocolote, mushroom, whatever, but for melees, meat kabobs are yes, pretty much anything else - grilled hare, meat jerky, raw meat for galka - is a solid no.

Your search comment, job/sj levels, and rank are all anyone has to go on when deciding whether or not to invite you to a party. Sure, you'll still get invites to craptastic parties even with everything as good as it could possibly be, but you usually will not get invites into the good parties with an underlevelled or incorrect sub, or lack of a search comment.

[WishMaster3K]

Oooooohhhhhhhhh ok ok [Understood] ^^

But yeah, i kinda realized that having a fully-leveled sub show that you care. Hell, I suppose i can take WHM to 20 using /RDM if I really need to =/ but only in worse-case, my BLM is ok

AIGHT! Thanx for the input. Looks like I'll have to suffer through the dunes a few more times. -_- i really was happy to leave that place and go wherever my Chocobo can take me, but I suppose it was fate or sumthin....

[Lasareth]

You can theoretically solo to 15 off of the funguars right outside the jugner zone in Lathiene, if you want. It takes a long time, but it gets you past Valk for a little while.

[WishMaster3K]

/em becomes Lasereth's fanboy

HA HA!!!! Alright! I can take RDM all the way to 15 AND avoid Valk. It might take a week, but thats a week of no headaches.

[Lightseeker]

Funny how Unger and I said much the same thing, yet I get hostility. >.> No, I don't know how you play, but I do know how you post, and that says a lot about what kind of person (and player you are). I suggest you read up on the definition of a "flame". I think you'll find your reply has more flaming qualities than mine. At any rate, I'm done here. Good luck on whatever job combo/levels you decide you want to play, mate.

[Akiro]

I have a under lvled sub as of now cause 1.i will never lvl blm so i theres 1 less sub to deal with 2.i couldnt stand lvling whm after i just deleted a lvl 43 whm to change servers so that leaves me with 3. summoner sub, its not the best sub cause its only at 19 and i am trying to get the other summons but i am starting to lvl white mage for a sub right now cause its alot more easier then lvling blm the only reson why i went summoner as a sub is cause i wanted to change to summoner when i get all my RDM AF but.. oh well, so as of now i am a 55/19 RDM but that will change in a couple of weeks

[Sepukku]

Im 46/22 and Have no plans on leveling subjob til RDM hits 50. Why?
1. Im only missing out on Aeroga and some crap Shock-like spell. Neither of these are good for parties.
2. As a Taru, missing out on an INT and 5-10MP isnt a big deal to me.

But at 25, Aspir ^-^ /joy! And Tractor....but eh tractor aint cool...

[Uroboros]

It's about making yourself marketable more than anything. Doing searches for people you don't know, you have very little to go off of.

RDM 45/22 hume
RDM 45/20 hume

Who's getting invited? Or

RDM 45/22 hume rank 6
RDM 45/22 hume rank 2

And finally

RDM whatever
RDM whatever, but with search comment

Basically with all things but one being equal, that one thing is going to be the dealbreaker. You may as well try to give yourself whatever edge you can to edge out other people on invites (especially for RDM, a very populated class). Usually the only exceptions for invites you will see to just breaking those three things mentioned above down and /telling will be reputation ("Hey that guy doesn't suck, ignore low rank/broken sub/whatever") and, for a mage, having to choose between Taru and a Galka/Elvaan.

It's also worth considering that the most dedicated players try to seek out equally dedicated players to insure a good party. I don't fault anyone for NOT wearing millions of gil in gear, having maximized subs, high rank, etc., but I do, and if possible I'd like to be partying with people who do also, for that edge. Don't get me wrong, I've partied with plenty of +45 ACC melees who sucked ass and some players wearing cheap crap and AF who were awesome, but again it just comes back to that if I don't know you already, all I have to go off of is your sub, your rank, and your comment, and |Haubergeon| |Sniper's Ring| OK! is going to win over a comment that lacks that.

[WishMaster3K]

Good point, especially comparing w race's strengths to what the sj takes away. For instance, a Taru missing out on 5-10 MP and 2 INT isnt going to make the party ass.... well, it might perform at 90% effeciency, which is in no ways as good as 100%, but at least you're trying.

Even fully leveled, my MB sucked ass, and I only nuked for big damage after a Melon Pie +1.... So having a fully leveled job is only ONE aspect- dont get me wrong, its a major aspect, but shouldnt be the only one considered

A search comment with something explaining the food and/or drinks that are in posession, the spells, and etc can impress a PT leader, and many times, I've been invited into good parties because of my comment.

If all else fails, make your own. Shyte

[leii]

oh leveling to 14 or 15 is easy in the maze. its pretty easy as any mage to get a party there too.