Which is the best sub??

[FeralisCallidus]

Its suprising that you say NIN and War have same AGI at your level...they should be different. Maybe its because you're an elvaan which has lower agi as it is.

Made no sense.

[Bilus]

Originally posted by Peppara
The Bullshit Comment was un-necessary.....


Its suprising that you say NIN and War have same AGI at your level...they should be different. Maybe its because you're an elvaan which has lower agi as it is.


It seems to me that each sub job has there purpose and advantages for certain races and situations. So far it seems NIN is a great over all sub job because of the utsemi ichi and dual wield of archer knives and agi and dex bonuses. SAM seems good for higher level PTs because of the TP bonus for skill chains. WAR seems good for just doing raw damage.

Right now I am leveling RNG and NIN 10 / 10 its going very well

please, if you havent played rng paste lv30 (where rng starts too shine). dont comment, FeralisCallidus obviously have some rng experince, and the only AGI diffrence i saw btw WAR and NIN whas 1 diffrence, i have a rng mithra friend aswell. same diffrence.

- War more psy dmg
- Nin more safe-play(blink) + 10 rng accuracy
- sam not so many comments here, RNG get enough TP as it is, maybe good for boss fights, but for exp pt forget it

there is no other diffrence, simple as that.

[Kerberos]

Unless on far ends of the spectrum (such as say between Warrior and Black Mage), typically the stat difference between subjobs are small most of the time.

[FeralisCallidus]

Exactly why Passive and Active abilities [Job traits and abilities] are usually the deciding factors when choosing a subjob.

[John Doe III]

Originally posted by FeralisCallidus


Made no sense.

Are you sure? You should have said, "That make no sense"...-_-..

Anyways, nobody really answered about drk sub. I mean ..yeah I keep forgetting the name but level 15 drk ability can be used with RNG's bow. DRK is all about the ATK ..so why not? STR, STR, STR, and more STR no? This wont work at 60 though..

[greysenn]

Last resorts duration is horrible, souleater dosen't work with ranged weapons, and the passive attack bonuses the drk gets aren't good enough to forego the bonuses the "main 3" subjobs give.

[Peppara]

Originally posted by Bilus


please, if you havent played rng paste lv30 (where rng starts too shine). dont comment, FeralisCallidus obviously have some rng experince, and the only AGI diffrence i saw btw WAR and NIN whas 1 diffrence, i have a rng mithra friend aswell. same diffrence.

- War more psy dmg
- Nin more safe-play(blink) + 10 rng accuracy
- sam not so many comments here, RNG get enough TP as it is, maybe good for boss fights, but for exp pt forget it

there is no other diffrence, simple as that.

It doesnt say anywhere in this thread that I can comment if I am not a lvl 30 rng. So sorry for just trying to have a conversation your majesty.

[tongyang]

The reason why you see a lot of high level rangers subbing ninja is this :

At level 65 or so, the monsters you fight will start to have a significant increase in evade. The reason is that while the monsters stats increase with their levels, your stats really don't increase all that much since level 65. This has been tuned back during one of the previous patches, but more or less you'll see that you *will* need that extra accuracy.

[John Doe III]

Originally posted by tongyang
At level 65 or so, the monsters you fight will start to have a significant increase in evade. The reason is that while the monsters stats increase with their levels, your stats really don't increase all that much since level 65. This has been tuned back during one of the previous patches, but more or less you'll see that you *will* need that extra accuracy.

AGI = Hit acc with range weapon correct?
Str = Hit Damage
Dex = Effects criticals and main attack acc

Correct?

[FeralisCallidus]

Correct.

[John Doe III]

Originally posted by FeralisCallidus
Correct.

So...Subbing overall 1-75

Ninja - Need STR

Warrior - Need AGI

Samurai - ?

Dark Knight - Need AGI

Thief - Need STR

Ty

[FeralisCallidus]

I think i've established that NIN and WAR subs basically give the same AGI boost [Exactly the same at my level, even].

[gleneasy]

yes, you said ranger and warrior give the same agi boost , but warrior cannot dual wield the archer daggers.

[Hisdon]

but the ninja can't berserk, doesn't get the passive attack/defence bonuses either =p

[FeralisCallidus]

Or warcry. Or aggressor.