Blink timing

[little ninja]

Originally posted by Jei
hmmm is that enough to cap your skill normally or do you switch to boomerang for skill ups? Your shuriken miss a lot?

i used to cap it outside of exp pts. i mainly used a chakram becuase its a waste of money on shurikens to skill it up. when i started using them was at lvl 40. i was doing 2x-3x more damage then rugular atks. sometimes even more. if i had to give a number on how many landed i would have to say 1/2 - 3/4 somewhere in those numbers. it really depended on the mobs we were fighting. it++ they didnt land as much as they did on the VT or IT. omni talked about gear swaps. but at that lvl i was using federation tekko +3 ranged acc, an had 2 sniper rings+1 for +14 ranged acc. so right there alone with no gear swap i was looking at+17 ranged accuracy. not to mention we rank an A- in throwing.

[little ninja]

Originally posted by Omni-Ragnarok
you fail to see what i was pointing out and again, you continue to do what im trying to expose. i wasnt trying to make the point that throwing isnt useful or whatever. thta was a mere example that you had brought up when you responded to NNY's post and how replied that he wasnt a 'hardcore' ninja and that throwing wasnt on the top of his list of 'must haves'. i was pointing out the fact that you have to always write condescending remarks about OTHER peoples comments. you say there are endless ways to play nin but crap on other people as if they arent 'real ninjas' b/c they didnt go the same route you did. in that last paragraph you wrote, you made jabs at whether or not i could afford throwing shurikens and my playing skill. -thats- what im pointing out.


yes, that is just my opinion about you. take it however you want with a grain of salt. all im saying is you dont need to put people down or look down on them b/c they dont do things a certain way. AND -pls- dont talk about crumbling, i play a taru, i dont even have over 1000 hp and ive done quite well for 73 lvls.

im glad i struck a nerve with you. but why you feel like attacking me an not other posters is beyond me. i was reading other posters state you arent even a subpar ninja if you dont live your ninja life doing this certain way of blinkin. " (refering to the removing of the last shadow, before ichi was completed). an yeah even some agreed. an if you didnt agree you, sure the hell didnt speak up. infact i was the only one saying you didnt have to rely on this to tank well.

nny said whaa??? please atleast try to get the posters name right before you try to make a valid claim. cause honestly if you cant even do that right. how can what you write hold any credit? nsxtasy is who wrote the list. not nny.

an it was you who stated in your opinion that to gear swap for ranged acc was screwing up your tanking rythm, hell scroll down to reread it if you like. it wasnt something i made up. an like i posted a post or 2 prior to this. at lvl 40. my 3 full time pieces of gear had +17 ranged acc on them. so i didnt have to gear swap much if not anything at all. an what are the 2 main reasons why players dont use throwing more as a ninja. A. lack of skill. an B. lack of gil. so i wasnt takin pop shots at you omni. i mean it is what you have been posting.

[Omni]

i did get nny and nxtasy mixed up. they post often on ffxionline forums and that is my mistake.

" but why you feel like attacking me an not other posters is beyond me. i was reading other posters state you arent even a subpar ninja if you dont live your ninja life doing this certain way of blinkin. " (refering to the removing of the last shadow, before ichi was completed).

this is a topic about blink timing is it not? thats what the original poster was asking. you decided to bring up throwing and how if you dont throw u arent hardcore.

as far as atking you, i am not. you are the one that likes to make condescending comments towars people. ive just started to notice it more often now. thats all. like i said, take what i say with a grain of salt, if you cant, you need to breathe and relax.

so i reread my post and i dont see where i said i lacked gil or skill. it was actually other posters that mentioned the gil factor in throwing shurikens, i only stated it wasnt worth it with the return you get from it. so again, you are assuming things as you always do. i did say it screws up tanking rhythm due if you wanted to swap in every piece of rng acc you can so you can make sure you land ur shuriken. but i guess since u have +17 rng acc, you must hit xp mobs all the time.

[ReisII]

This isn't even about your way of playing Ninja, it's about you, whether you did it on purpose or not, claiming a ninja isn't hardcore if he didn't use shurikens, or throwing.

That's hypocrisy.

Because you said there's no one way to play ninja, but you claim any "hardcore ninja" uses throwing. So in a roundabout way, you just claimed "throwing is the only TRUE way to be a ninja, if you don't, you aren't special, and you just join the masses in mediocrity." The arugement was never the validity of if shurikens or throwing worked in a party, the arguement was that you claim only good ninja, is a throwing ninja.

please. If you want to defend yourself fine, but know why you're arguing, and know when to stop. No one's less hardcore because they don't waste money on throwing gil...er..shurikens.

(oh, and as a pld, I resent your comment on how "there's only one way to play paladin. Your ignorance hurts my eyes") :angel:

[Macht]

Originally posted by ReisII
(oh, and as a pld, I resent your comment on how "there's only one way to play paladin. Your ignorance hurts my eyes") :angel:

O.o

Who said that? Damn, think I missed a section of someones posts.

[Niland]

if you think throwing is good then parse it and give us stats throwing vs not throwing.

otherwise don't waste our time with this attitude.

[little ninja]

Originally posted by ReisII
This isn't even about your way of playing Ninja, it's about you, whether you did it on purpose or not, claiming a ninja isn't hardcore if he didn't use shurikens, or throwing.

That's hypocrisy.

Because you said there's no one way to play ninja, but you claim any "hardcore ninja" uses throwing. So in a roundabout way, you just claimed "throwing is the only TRUE way to be a ninja, if you don't, you aren't special, and you just join the masses in mediocrity." The arugement was never the validity of if shurikens or throwing worked in a party, the arguement was that you claim only good ninja, is a throwing ninja.

please. If you want to defend yourself fine, but know why you're arguing, and know when to stop. No one's less hardcore because they don't waste money on throwing gil...er..shurikens.

(oh, and as a pld, I resent your comment on how "there's only one way to play paladin. Your ignorance hurts my eyes") :angel:

lol sorry but i never said that hardcore = throwing. i said the hardcore ninjas care about being the all around best they can be. an this includes the ability to take advantage of a throwing skill thats an A-. this includes capping the ninjitsu, an the katana. parry, eva an what ever else. so why arent you gonna include this in the " to know list"

really if you actually read most of this thread you would have saw the comment " this is what seperates the good ninjas from the bad ninjas." but like i said earlier i didnt use this method much. if hardly any. i never really had to. i was going from ni > ichi rarely getting hit. so am i a bad ninja cause i dont use this techinque. or cause it itsnt mastered. nice to know. but dependent on the pt set up.

sorry if my pld comment upset you. 2 other jobs that are 60, an honestly the pld set up has always been almost the same. def > vit > hp. well some galka an elvaan i saw, changed hp for mp. ive never seen a pld wear a byrnie other then to farm.

[Mephisto]

Little ninja you're really ignorant :3 There's many ways to play each job. A PLD can use quite a few very good weapons, Haubergeon, Byrnie, etc, with some equip macros can turn PLD into a decent DD, able to keep hate. With a RDM BRD backline, or a WHM in the PT, it's easy in most cases to make up for the lack of DEF,VIT, etc. Hell in PT with BRD RDM WHM I somtimes use berserk. There is NO JOB that has one way to play it. Have you ever seen a full STR/ACC ninja's damage? I'm fairly confident that it would outdmg a throwing ninja. Just because it's A- doesnt mean its good and you have to take advantage of it. It just gives you more options. Maybe on birds/flies, throwing has the potential to outdmg katanas, but it doesnt mean you should always be using throwing.

[ReisII]

an what of the throwing skill? obvious that if you were a hardcore ninja. an believed in being the all around best there is. then youd have made this in your " must know list." sad that the younger ninjas dont trully understand how valuable it is even at lower lvls. an as other pts told me long ago. no ninja they saw threw a shuriken.

"Hardcore Ninja" "The all around best there is" "no ninja they saw threw shuriken"

POint taken, re read your OWN posts...

[ZQM]

Originally posted by Omni-Ragnarok
i did get nny and nxtasy mixed up. they post often on ffxionline forums and that is my mistake.

Just admit it, you can't get me out of your mind.

[little ninja]

Originally posted by ReisII
"Hardcore Ninja" "The all around best there is" "no ninja they saw threw shuriken"

POint taken, re read your OWN posts...

HARDCORE: Intensely loyal; die-hard. thus causing yourself to aim for being the best of the best. the point was why not include it on the list of things ninjas should know. is the reason because its not cost effective? or is cause some dont want to bother with lvling it. cause it might slow down end game...

so im so sorry i hurt your feelings. but then again its not like ninjas are hated on by pld.

[Nameless]

Originally posted by little ninja
HARDCORE: Intensely loyal; die-hard. thus causing yourself to aim for being the best of the best. the point was why not include it on the list of things ninjas should know. is the reason because its not cost effective? or is cause some dont want to bother with lvling it. cause it might slow down end game...

so im so sorry i hurt your feelings. but then again its not like ninjas are hated on by pld.

I'm so sorry that after everyone explained it you still don't get it. You start crying because you don't like them saying that there is a certain way to tank, but then you go off and say to be an "Intense and loyal" Ninja that you must use shurikens. Basically saying that there is no certain way to blink, but god forbid you don't use shurikens in a party.

Sit down and shut up, you're being a hypocrite.

[ReisII]

I haven't played pld since my set broke last may lol.

so that isn't it.

Just saying, s'all~

Nameless wins~

[little ninja]

Originally posted by Nameless
I'm so sorry that after everyone explained it you still don't get it. You start crying because you don't like them saying that there is a certain way to tank, but then you go off and say to be an "Intense and loyal" Ninja that you must use shurikens. Basically saying that there is no certain way to blink, but god forbid you don't use shurikens in a party.

Sit down and shut up, you're being a hypocrite.

atleast you could have done was answered my last posts question. but instead you skipped it, an went right to the bashing of lil ninja..

[Omni]

Originally posted by ZQM
Just admit it, you can't get me out of your mind.

lol yes. i dont know you but, sexay war/nin tank is teh hawts! hehe, i read thru a lot of other forums and nxtasy and you post a lot so for some reason i got u too mixed up. maybe cuz u both start with n?! lol bad reason....:spin: