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  • #31
    Originally posted by RukawaSCSU
    No you are wrong. With NIN tank, less hate on the NIN< but also mean less hate on WHM. Imagine what if your PLD die? before he die mage pour all their MP to heal him, and when he dies, mages get the 2nd highest hate, not to mention is hard for back up tank to tank alone as a PLD< or get hate back from the mages.

    Anyways, i enjoy to see easier way to kill God like Seriyu or Byakko than stress out for MP and HP on PLD and mages.
    Wrong.

    Tank PT of:
    PLD/WAR, PLD/WAR, WHM/SMN, WHM/SMN, RDM/WHM, BRD/SMN.

    Say hello to your new NIN tank. Also less prone to dying in one hit (that's when hate gets really messed up). Also able to keep hate off of those WHM, RNG and BLM, so they can up the notch in damage (though usually towards the latter third of a Fafnir fight the RNG are usually tanking anyway but meh..)

    The only time I really don't find this party setup to be the best is Kirin for kiting, and King Behemoth for kiting. As I said, Ninjas CAN do the other HNM but it honestly makes it harder since they are very prone to dying in extremely short periods of time and can't generate the hate that a PLD can (without resorting to using like 50k of Nijutsu tools a fight). We had a Ninja tank Aspido, and he did great, but by the end of the fight he had used like 100-125k worth of Ninjutsu just trying to keep hate.
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    • #32
      I could post a video of two ninjas dual tanking Byakko.. but i'm not sure if they'd appreciate it.

      After being in a linkshell where every god was tanked by paladins, and then a totally different one where ninjas were used.. All I can say is that either works.

      Just do what is best for you..

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      • #33
        I presume a ninja tanking suzaku requires a little more skill and coordination post-utsusemi patch.

        The wing AE from regular perytons removes all blinks, so either stun or backup casting ni and quickly turning it?

        anyone tried?
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        • #34
          K, either one works.

          Most people prefer PLD.

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          • #35
            This is a very interesting thread, and I see a lot of comments that pld are the choice tank for sky gods. We've only recently started gods, and have worked through Genbu, Suzaku, and Seiryu, but I'm wondering how you manage with pld tanks.

            As we're new, we don't have many of the wind's, thus leaving us often fighting Gods, particularly new ones, with the en still up. When we try to pld tank that way they just get cut to pieces, even with adaman, staffs, and partial koenig. Thus we've relied on Nin kite or Nin straight tanking.

            What I'm wondering is from those pld proponents here, what are some viable Pld tactics if you cannot remove the en effect, and your alliance only has 3 whm's to maintain heavy curing. I'd love to get our pld more into the action, but so far when we try it it works out poorly and we fall back on tactics we know work for us, ie blink and kite.

            I suppose soon enough we'll have plenty of winds, and it won't be an issue, but with those restrictors can anyone advise any alternatives? Should I assume that once wind's can be gotten via drop or purchased from bazaars, that pld straight tanking even with 3 whm should work fine, or am I jumping the gun?
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            • #36
              The setup for a PLD tank PT is generally something like:

              PLD, PLD, WHM/SMN, WHM/SMN, BRD/SMN, RDM/WHM. (RDM can be /SMN too with the BRD becoming /WHM).

              PLD share hate, and Aerial Armor is spammed on them. Don't need to spam Cure at all.
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              • #37
                Ah. Gotcha. Guess I need to level up summoner a few more levels. ; ; Thanks for the great advice
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