Hume drgs =bad???

[narusegawa]

ive looked around this forum and everyone is suggesting Mithra is the best race for dragoon, but IMO i honestly dont like mitrhas...
and i want to go as a Hume drg, but is it a bad idea??

[dragoon]

It is good to be a hume dragoon they are not bad with drag. but they are not the best when compare to true melee race.
Will i'am trying to say they can get the job done.

[Riva]

Humes are fine.
More Str then a mithra, less dex
More dex then and elvaan, less str

In this mmorpg, like many others

gear > all

[Niexist]

Hume's make far better dragoon's than Elvaan.

[fuz]

Humes are not bad at the job, just not great since their inherently higher mnd, int, chr and MP pool are wasted on a job that has no magic--and because of that do not have particularly good melee stats. (Soloing with a mage job is another discussion) Still, humes are a good deal easier to level than a taru dragoon.

Get your accuracy up though, dragoons miss a lot with any race until lvl 30. :p

[Weezingpipes]

Actually I think any race is overall fine. As mentioned equipment can compensate a lot of downsides certain races have. I'm an Elvaan DRG which really does hurt the accuracy until 30, but accuracy bonus seems to be pretty significant, and a good selection of + Dex and accuracy items makes it fairly ok. What I find good about Elvaan is I can still solo and take damage comparitvely a bit better than say a mithra due to higher vit and notably higher HP which amounts to being nice for soloing more than anything and not having to be healed as much in a group. Hume is probably plenty ok at dragoon. Good players > stat whores basically. Been in groups with the "less good" race/job combos who run circles around people who play the "best" race for said job.

I suppose the problem more than anything is I do see a lot of people don't keep their equipment current to their level. I don't want to hear the excuse of things being too expensive, because thats just a cop out. Equipment is very important to offset the penalties certain races have with certain jobs. People just need to make the effort.

[Feday]

Hume's make far better dragoon's than Elvaan.

explain

[Rougtan]

Elvaan's are the agresive dragoon, they lay it all on the line. I like almost all races for Dragoon my view is...

Galka: Defensive
Elvaan: Offensive
Mithra: basic damage, Evade like no other
Hume: Basic everything
Taru Taru: Interesting, not fit in my opinion.

edit: btw yeah items rule all. Dex items are a must for every class. my dream is 2 Amythist rings, Leaping Boots, 2 sheild Earrings, spike necklace, traveler Mantle.. pretty much the best dex stuff.

This is what i want around level 20 to 30, Elvaan Male here.

[OneWingedDemon]

Hume make fine DRG's, don't fret. Just buy some accuracy + and some str +.

Elvaan has to focus on Accuracy Bonuses and Dex ups.

My Elvaan has +25 Accuracy(and job trait + recent patch) and +6 dex. . Elvaan does not miss like people want to think. He just have to focus alot on the Accuracy. My Elvaan has around 400 attack after all the bonuses with Berserk and Food. Mithra, you need lots of STR + and a little accuracy bonus since your DEX wont make you hit all the time.

Taru DRG, they have many negatives, but some people say a LV 60 + Taru DRG/Mage (Must have AF Helm) can be a healer with wyvern (uncommon fact).

Galka, I don't have much experiance but they could make good DRG's too I bet.

Edit: Focus on Accuracy Bonus, its alot stronger than dex.

[Niexist]

Originally posted by Feday


explain

Your ATK as dragoon is high enough, with the same subjob an elvaan dragoon who is same lvl as me has I believe 8 more str, could be off, and I have 5 more dex. Personally 2.5 acc is more important to me than 4 atk, especially when DRG atk is 250+ all the time, and with berserk even higher.

I did not want mithra because they suffer to much for their dex in other areas. Hume seems the ideal choice for dragoon, but like everyone else has stated, race is personal preference, I pt with a LOT of taru melee jobs, and their dmg is not noticably lower than the higher STR races, especially with good items.

[OneWingedDemon]

\Dragoons need VIT and HP because after a slew of Pentas we get hit and need backup if Super isn't ready, and each hit with penta and jump the extra attack we have stacks up. Your 4+ Dex isn't going to topple a DRG Elvaan who has good items on him.

[Niexist]

As I said Hume suffers in no one stat, so I didn't really "forget" anything. I have over a thousand HP at lvl 55 so I'm not to bad off when I draw aggro (was fighting lvl 70 orcs today no sneak+trick without super jump charged though!)

Because there are so many different stats taken into account for Dragoon, Hume is the ideal choice.

[OneWingedDemon]

Hume is the balanced so how could it be ideal for DRG?
There might be many +'s in your opinion but its not the best DRG, it wastes stats on magic things that a regular melee DRG wouldnt need (heal breath only costs 7 mp , dia) . Unless you show me how 4 dex (lol 2 accuracy bonus) is gonna rock an Elvaan DRG's world, I won't accept your opinion on how Hume is better. You wonder why DRG quest is in San Doria and not in Bastok. Same goes for Ranger and Windhurst ( mithra ), SMN in Windhurst(Taru) and Bastok DRK ( Galka).

When I was Ranger (Elvaan) I knew I sucked compared to a Mithra Ranger but that didn't keep me from leveling it (which I will level after DRG again).
I'm sorry , I've been trying to be unoffending but you don't understand the fact of a "balanced race".

[MAK]

its not worth disagreeing with him i learned that it just turns into a big flame war..so dont waste your time

[Niexist]

Originally posted by OneWingedDemon
Hume is the balanced so how could it be ideal for DRG?
There might be many +'s in your opinion but its not the best DRG, it wastes stats on magic things that a regular melee DRG wouldnt need (heal breath only costs 7 mp , dia) . Unless you show me how 4 dex (lol 2 accuracy bonus) is gonna rock an Elvaan DRG's world, I won't accept your opinion on how Hume is better. You wonder why DRG quest is in San Doria and not in Bastok. Same goes for Ranger and Windhurst ( mithra ), SMN in Windhurst(Taru) and Bastok DRK ( Galka).

When I was Ranger (Elvaan) I knew I sucked compared to a Mithra Ranger but that didn't keep me from leveling it (which I will level after DRG again).
I'm sorry , I've been trying to be unoffending but you don't understand the fact of a "balanced race".

and tell me how Elvaan's incredible less than .5% boost in ATK over hume post 50is going to somehow make them better than hume?

Elvaan has no real advantage except 100 HP as a DRG. Unless you count your ATK going up from 320 to 324, woohoo! Accuracy however is FAR harder to come by, and the total stat for accuracy usually won't exceed 100.

Really though the ideal choice is the one you want. I have my reasons for picking hume, you have yours for picking elvaan and it really doesn't matter.

If I found out Elvaan had some kind of incredibly definitive trait that helped Dragoon(which they don't :smileywink would I change my race? Probably not because I always play human characters in MMO's. Why? Personal preference.