Accuracy ....

[kumaeru]

2 things you should keep in mind if you see yourself as Awn's "swoosh whore".

1. You're fighting things harder than you're current lvl. @58 those raptors in valley should be fine.. Perytons on other hand still can get hard to hit at 60-61. I was fighting those raptors at 56 of course I didnt have huabergeon at the time.. but I did fine with using Eyeball soup cause I knew I was underlvled for the area.


2. You are lacking enough +accuracy.


In the end, you would still rather have accuracy than no accuracy. And at higher amounts of accuracy there seems to be diminishing returns so since many have around +45-50 accuracy without snipers etc, there is no need to still use snipers, better to use +Str Rings etc to boost up base damage.

[Xephoid]

lol

Originally posted by dagon2002
"Reading all this has made me wonder... currently, I'm fighting Velociraptors in Valley of Sorrows for EXP, with +30 Accuracy without Vassago's, they con Incredibly Touph with low evasion and defense. ...I know that at some point in the future (i'm lvl 60) I'll fight Torama, I've been told many times they have nasty evasion, is +30 Accuracy enough to deal with those? I don't have much problem hitting Raptors most of the time...."



I xped there at lvl58 with about 40 ACC and i couldnt hit a thing, almost made me quit. its obvious that those things where way to hard for a drk at 58? because man that hurt.

It's not just how much +acc, you have, but also your level, and skill in your weapon.

Torama, yes, they have high evasion. So high in fact, I recommned not going up against them at Lv 61-62 unless you have a BRD or SMN w/ Fenrir with you. At those levels, cockatrice in cape terrigan would be an much easier target, and might be the better exp. Toramas become much easier to hit at 63-64.

[kumaeru]

I did Toramas at 61... wasn't too fun. For one I was pulling and they catch up to you very fast ~_~;;,

Personally I find Monastic to be better than Cockatrice although Cockatrice can take you higher. Did 61-64 in Monastic, and 64-66 in Boyahda and Terrigan (cockatrice).

[dagon2002]

First thing my scythe and gswd is caped and no I DID NOT HAVE A BARD. I ABS-Agi and such and still there are problems. You Can't goto Valley at 56 and be productive im sorry you just cant. The taru there that said he did must be on some good stuff and heck i could use some.



With a BARD lol you can do almost anything and i wish ppl would say that they had a BARD when they did something insane like be productive at lol lvl 56 in the valley on raptors because w/o a bard they can't.



Truth is at 57-59 I was much better off in triggan and then at 59-60 my damage at Valley was on par with some rangers. I dont have Haub but i do have duel snipers/assaults since lvl55 (even though yeah i couldnt equip the assault).





p.s.

the 56 thing really bothers me lol, its one of the biggest lies ive seen on these boards. I can see it now DRKs (or other melees) going to the valley doing really bad giving there jobs bad reps and getting so upset to the point that they could quit. GOOD WORK. I.E , O.E say if u had a bard or NOT, dont come here and boast B.S claims.

[Rekiem]

Originally posted by Aldo
Madrigal is random +% ACC, however I am told the first form is much less than second, so it is not that great to stack them as opposed to stacking Minuets.

Do you have any number on how much Madrigal gives actually? I've played BRD for 75 level and I still have no idea how good madrigal is -_-;

[dagon2002]

also just to get it clear 110% , the raptors in the Valley are lvl 66-69 (check the tour). Now u come and tell me that u didnt miss most of the time at 56 and heck even 58? dont think so.

Levels mean everything, dont care what gear or food u got doesnt mean a thing.

One more thing its not just the drk that will struggle when u do this ITS EVERY SINGLE MELEE (even the thfs).

[kumaeru]

They are pretty easy to take down at 58-60.. I did it at 56 cause the PT was quite weird. It had a 59 Thf in it.. eventually the fights went too long so we went to pugils in cape terrigan.

And btw.. at 63-64 those raptors give bad exp; which leads PT's at that lvl to chain raptors with perytons, but you get better exp in monastic or terrigan on cockatrice. So either you're source is listing monster lvl, or you are mistakened.

Dont believe me fine, I dont care what you believe. It's what happened and i'll say it how it is. It might have a brd but I'm not sure.. happened awhile back.

Anyways it was Pld, Thf, Drk as the melees. Raminel was the Thf (when he was still playing Thf).. those on midgard will know.

As 59 its not hard to hit the raptors, many people get to 60 on those raptors. However the perytons are very hard to do at 59-60.. even at around lvl 62 it takes some effort to bring it down.


However what is annoying is that you claim i'm making it up. If you still think I'm wrong, why dont you get to lvl 66-69 and go to sorrows and hunt some raptors. I am 68 now, and those raptors are mostly all Decent Challenge.

[dagon2002]

The issue is not so much 58-59 and i think i said i started to xp there around 58-59 even though to me 58 is one level to low. I take issue with you saying some how at 56 you where able to hit the Valley Raptors. My source is correct lol. Your just talking out your ass (like most of the ppl on these forums).

A)your trying to infalte your ego

or

B)you dont know wtf your talking about


MAke a choice.

Bottom line 56 melee CANT be productive at the valley. CASE CLOSED lol.

[Thelps]

I unequipped my snipers while fighting Anticans in Quicksands at lvl 49. I honestly noticed no difference in my hit rate whatsoever. It disturbed me greatly but I've decided to keep the rings in the hope their effect when added with my other +acc equipment (just got my Haubergeon yesterday, now to hit 59!) will be at least somewhat noticeable. I too, however, am disgusted with my hit rate against IT+ mobs, simply because if there's a MNK, DRG or even SAM in the party, they'll regularly outhit me. I'm becoming convinced Scythes have some kind of hidden -acc trait or something...

[kumaeru]

Originally posted by dagon2002
The issue is not so much 58-59 and i think i said i started to xp there around 58-59 even though to me 58 is one level to low. I take issue with you saying some how at 56 you where able to hit the Valley Raptors. My source is correct lol. Your just talking out your ass (like most of the ppl on these forums).

A)your trying to infalte your ego

or

B)you dont know wtf your talking about


MAke a choice.

Bottom line 56 melee CANT be productive at the valley. CASE CLOSED lol.

Did I once say that it was productive? There is a difference between flaming out of ignorance and flaming out of stupidity. Apparently it has shown with the many other trolls on these boards already. I was there at 56 due to an imbalance in the PT.

Which ever you see me as being A or B.. thats up to you. There really is no use arguing with a person who believes that his opinion is the best and that others falsify information.

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