Accuracy ....

[Macht]

The thing I've noticed is the more you forcus yourself on just 1 particular thing the less effective you become all around. Seems almost like this game has a counter math string in it that penalizes people who try to over specialize. It's an actual saying to though said in many different ways:

"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness, It's slow death"

"Don't put all your eggs in one basket"

etc...

Anyway on to the point almost every skill if you push it directly it does improve it as long as another condition is met, that stats associated with what you are focusing on are also given decent increases. So if you are raising Accuracy then raising DEX or AGI accordingly helps it to actually take effect.

It's almost like each skill is only showing it's max potential but your stats determine how frequently you'll hit that max potential.

Kind of funny seeing 2.0 saying "you can never have enough Accuracy" as being a dumb line did you change your tune on it now? Or just relating it to other melee's with RNG being the exception still?

[Brothershadow]

Very nice Macht. I was actually thinking in that general direction i.e, I was going to obtain a sniper but also wear a DEX ring that would always compliment it.

[2.0]

Originally posted by Macht
Kind of funny seeing 2.0 saying "you can never have enough Accuracy" as being a dumb line did you change your tune on it now? Or just relating it to other melee's with RNG being the exception still?

I've kinda come around but I still think that RNG is better off with a ton of accuracy just not to an extreme you know what I mean?

[Macht]

Originally posted by 2.0
I've kinda come around but I still think that RNG is better off with a ton of accuracy just not to an extreme you know what I mean?

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I can agree with that.

[Langolier]

Even at 61 where all the Torama are IT, I havent had too much of a problem with ACC. At the very least, none of them con with "High Evasion", infact, after buying my assault earring today, one of them was IT with "Low evasion" granted, I missed the little creep 9 times in a row. I think you only need as much ACC gear as will remove the "High Evasion" con from the mobs you fight, at least in exp parties...

[truong]

LOL I've been saying this since day one. Accuracy Bonus means jack shit. Hell, stat boosting gears in this game generally mean jack shit. It's all about your level vs the mob's level. If they're IT and high def and eva or just IT, forget about it. You can have all the best gear in the game, but you'll still perform like shit. Turn the table around. You can have the standard all DRK AF (none of that uber leet overpriced, overrated bs) and fight VT and accuracy is barely an issue.

Remember, Bard solves all problem. Shitty equipment? Bard. Fighting IT high eva and def? Bard. Slow exp gain? Bard. Too much down time? Bard. Genital herpes? Bard. Bard > FF11.

[Langolier]

I don't know... I've fought a few IT Torama that had low evasion and defense. Having +ACC gear limits the number of mobs out there (that you'll exp off) that will have high evasion. So I say it's worth it, have +32 Accuracy has let me keep up with the rest of my static, in which the mages are 1 1/2 - 2 lvls ahead of myself and the other melee. I've partied with other drks and other melee classes my lvl who didn't have the +Acc I had an I hit more often and got tp much faster than they did most of the time. I say +Acc gear is good untl you over do it. As long as the usual mobs you exp off are not "high evasion", then you've got enough.

[Xephoid]

most accuracy problem

stem from the fact that you are fightin IT++.

At that point, the mob is 10+ levels higher than you, and each level gives +5is evasion, you quickly see how their evasion and AGI is way over your head. So unless you got something like 60+ Acc, you aren't gonna hit much against IT++.

ACC helps the most against VT to VT++. Those critters are 5-8 levels over you. So they have about +25-40 EVA advantage. This is there your +ACC make you hit rather than miss.

My advice, don't fight things that are anything more than just plain IT. In fact, exp is probably better if you chain VT left and right for C5 every time with little or no down time. Try to take on Steel shell at 63-65 without a bard? You'll go into a swooshing fest a lot, but they become a piece of cake and great exp at 66-67.

Also, ABS-AGI is a nice way to boost your accuracy a little. Cast near the beginning of the fight or pull with it if you got MP.

[kumaeru]

Exp is best done on VT and Weak IT's like xephoid said. If fighting the hard IT's that give you like 200exp non chain then you are waisting you're time. It takes too much time to kill them and chain.. you will be getting much more exp going to chain 5's on things that normally give you around 130-150exp and chain to about 180+ exp.

[truong]

See, that's what bothers me about this game, and makes me think stat boosting gear in general is useless. What's the whole point of going out of your to get those uber leet, great stat boosting items when they aren't at all enough for you to fight IT+? I thought the game should reward you for your hardwork of getting all these items, allowing you to fight IT+, which equals to faster exp? Shouldn't the person who spent a month getting +50 ACC be able to fight IT+ chaining for 250+ exp? LET someone who has only +20 or no acc+ at all fight VTs and lower IT for 120-150 EXP chain, because that's what their stats allow them to fight effectively. Someone who has 50+ should be rewarded with the ability to fight higher tier mobs. But it's simply not the case in this game. +5 ACC or +50, it doesn't matter, either way, you're still only going to be chaining VT+ and IT at best. Anything else is unproductive. Throw away them snipers, get a bard. GGPO FFXI.

[kumaeru]

Because the fight isnt just based on Drks accuracy....

Fights are based on what every other PT members has aswell. The reason why you do easier mobs is to chain high. Rdm + Brd PT and you really never have to stop pulling.. this is better exp then getting only say chain 3 on IT+'s even if it may be for 250exp.. It will be hitting the tank harder aswell, and draining healer's MP.

[Awntawn]

When we say we don't need snipers, it's because we already have like +50 without them, so +8 str would be more useful in this position. Believe me, +0 acc will make you a swoosh whore even with a bard singing madrigals.

[dagon2002]

"Reading all this has made me wonder... currently, I'm fighting Velociraptors in Valley of Sorrows for EXP, with +30 Accuracy without Vassago's, they con Incredibly Touph with low evasion and defense. ...I know that at some point in the future (i'm lvl 60) I'll fight Torama, I've been told many times they have nasty evasion, is +30 Accuracy enough to deal with those? I don't have much problem hitting Raptors most of the time...."

I xped there at lvl58 with about 40 ACC and i couldnt hit a thing, almost made me quit.

[dagon2002]

"Reading all this has made me wonder... currently, I'm fighting Velociraptors in Valley of Sorrows for EXP, with +30 Accuracy without Vassago's, they con Incredibly Touph with low evasion and defense. ...I know that at some point in the future (i'm lvl 60) I'll fight Torama, I've been told many times they have nasty evasion, is +30 Accuracy enough to deal with those? I don't have much problem hitting Raptors most of the time...."



I xped there at lvl58 with about 40 ACC and i couldnt hit a thing, almost made me quit. its obvious that those things where way to hard for a drk at 58? because man that hurt.

[Brothershadow]

LMAO! "Swoosh whore!" Well I hope to avoid that status for as long as i can. Interesting situation I ran into last night, which has prompted me to hold off on getting that Sniper Ring. Had a great team set up, with a PLD as our tank and the 2 damage dealers
were myself and another DRK/WAR of equal level. We were killing
Beetles and Spiders "shudders at their special attack" in Quicksand caves. Me and the other DRK differences were that
I was wearing 2 Deft Rings, Brigadine Armor, and a Valkyie's mask
& he was wearing 1 Sniper & 1 Deft, Royal squire body armor & a
Centurion's visor. We both casted our spells at the same time
before engaging our mobs but I was surprised to see that I always got my weapon skill off before him. I also made sure to cast when he did to make sure I wasnt hitting more than him for that reason. Although I may change my mind if I buy one of those sexy Barbarian Scythes because of it's -5 accuracy.