Are my nuke macros actually working?

[Coinspinner]

As long as the BLM doesn't stand around swinging while he should be resting and isn't being pelted with AE and requiring healing, a BLM meleeing in an exp PT isn't gonna make a lick of difference in your Exp/hour. I'd really be surprised if it ever actually ever made the difference between Chain#4 and Chain #5. Hell, unless he's got serious Accuracy boosts, a BLM probably won't hit the mob enough to give it another WS per fight.

That said, meleeing as a BLM hurts the party very little but helps the party even less... so why do it? For want of staff skill? Let me say... no WS after Earth Crusher is usefull to you until level 62 and Full Swing, and you will never melee anything close enought to your level where the Atk and Acc boost from higher Staff skill is very useful.

Besides, starting at level 50 you get invited to endless item and AF coffer key hunts, starting with the painful exoray mold and papyrus runs of Genkai 1. You can melee to your heart's content on these hunts, and nobody ever cares.

[lionx]

I dont even know how you can call ppl childish for answering your questions and backing it up with reasons. Getting angry for something on a forum is so unchildish to me....yup -_-;;

The thing is fine, dont take the advice if you dont want to, but your going to get opinions by posting this up whether you like it or not. And its not that great to flame as well. Especially when ppl wanted to help. Take it or leave it, just dont throw it back in ppl's faces screaming when ppl wanted to help and you didnt like that kind of help.

I only allow meleeing on certain mobs, like beetles and the sort...even then i dont quite like it since more TP. But yea go ahead and melee, just have fun when Silence Gas flies torwards you or overnuking when a Ka aggros and Dimensional Deaths you or something. :angel:


BTW, other people determine you are great or not, you can look at yourself and say you are the greatest, but really...its pretty arrogant to say that. And arrogancy is also mature...yes it is..

[blueoakleyz]

I never asked ANYONE if I should melee or not and you know it.

With that said I don't know WHY you people are still explaining to me why I shouldn't melee. I'm going to anyway, at least until I"m level 45 so quit it. JUST QUIT IT

[Rodin]

[CarbonFibre]

Firstly I'd like to request that the mods not close this thread. It has been way too entertaining, and we have to be fair to those that haven't been able to comment yet.

The fact is, no matter what anyone says to you, you will never change your mind. Whatever you believe is what has to be the truth. Oh, and since you used escape a couple times the other day, then you must be the best BLM ever. As others have said, meleeing against mobs in exp parties isn't ideal. Some mobs will be a lot better for going it to slap than others (depending on their attacks). Besides all the other good reasons already presented, hitting a mob for any damage will just add unneeded enmity. Your physical damage is quite insignificant. You will just get more hate this way and be much easier to get reamed by the enemy standing directly next to it. What was the reason you wanted to level your club or staff skills in the first place anyway? You don't farm with physical damage anyway (unless you like to farm rabbit hides from wild rabbits that are like level 1).

*Edit: Even if meleeing doesn't dramtically hurt the party, it's selfish. Take it from a job meant to melee. I can try to skill up my polearm in exp parties, but it makes my damage suffer, and hurts the whole party. There's a time and a place for skilling up your weapons, and, for a BLM, it's not a leveling party.

[blueoakleyz]

If you know i"ll never change my mind, why do so many people continue to try and convince me otherwise? I"M NOT GOING TO CHANGE MY MIND

I NEVER EVEN ASKED for opinions on BLM meleeing

[Sototh]

there is another reason not to melee after level 51+, past that level you should start buying/using all the elemental staves, which you will exchange with almost every other spell. meaning............ you always lose all your tp....

and no, I am not talking to the troll, just mentioning it

[blueoakleyz]

wtf???
How can you call ME a troll?
I'm not the one that started this shit

[Drachol]

Uhhh yeah you are, we told you how to solve your macro problems, then you went all berserk like a little kid. Grow up already, jeez, and I thought I was an ass.

[Rones]

LMAO, this thread is great. I've seen people snap before, but nothing quite like this. :sweat:

[Pumpkinpuddin]

Originally posted by Rones
LMAO, this thread is great. I've seen people snap before, but nothing quite like this. :sweat:

I Agree :spin:

[lionx]

<insert witty this thread rocks picture here> :spin:

[stalker0]

This is how we replied, When you asked if your macro worked we told you that it wasnt a good idea. To go melee. That is an answer to your question. Now your thinking how can that be an answer..... Well we are trying to say you shouldnt even bother with Raising WS in EXP battles. If you want to raise you shouldnt do it in a party that needs a blm. Like yesterday I was lvling blm in Gustav tunnel and the Fly AoE does alot of damage. Now If I were close to the Fly I would have made the whm have to cast Cure II atleast to make sure another one wouldnt kill me. Also Drain doesnt cure for 123 damage. I lvld my Staff farming and it works great cuz you get two things done at the same time. ^^
So dont go flaming other peoples ppl for telling you their thoughts on the Subject and we can all get along.

[Pumpkinpuddin]

Originally posted by stalker0
This is how we replied, When you asked if your macro worked we told you that it wasnt a good idea. To go melee. That is an answer to your question. Now your thinking how can that be an answer..... Well we are trying to say you shouldnt even bother with Raising WS in EXP battles. If you want to raise you shouldnt do it in a party that needs a blm. Like yesterday I was lvling blm in Gustav tunnel and the Fly AoE does alot of damage. Now If I were close to the Fly I would have made the whm have to cast Cure II atleast to make sure another one wouldnt kill me. Also Drain doesnt cure for 123 damage. I lvld my Staff farming and it works great cuz you get two things done at the same time. ^^
So dont go flaming other peoples ppl for telling you their thoughts on the Subject and we can all get along.

Stalker your my hero!

[Mutsumi123]

Stalker you have a good point even though later drain can do more than Cure 3 with decent dark skill.

Here are some problems with blms meleeing:

1) Damage: you're doing crap damage even if u were a galka it doesnt matter that ur not a taru as a blm your damage still sucks.

2) MP: during the battle, even though it doesnt seem like ur casting very much anyway, you might run out of mp. Since ur engaged you wont be able to rest and u cant keep the chain alive.

3) TP: first off even if u are hitting the monster ur giving it TP. By casting u dont do that and u do alot more damage. Also another issue is ur tp. You cant even use ur tp because ur switching from wand to staff bringing ur tp to 0 everytime u do that.

4) AoE: this has been mentioned by many people already so basically ill just say AoE hurts u, draws mp from whms, and you could possible die causing a 4 min delay in lvling due to weakness.

Ok finally time to give my answer to your question and while i agree with the people saying you shouldnt melee at all here it is:

Yes it will work to give you the INT, however, like i said you ruin ur tp everytime u do that which is like ur only chance to do some good damage. Futhermore, the "extra" damage u deal is nothing compared to a full-time nuker that rests when he runs out of mp. I hope that you will see for urself in the near future that what we've said is actually true for the sake of ur parties although just by telling u it we've only strengthened ur stance. Though you will never admit it you will find that we were in fact correct have a nice day.