Camping Minstrel's Coat

[TheMidg]

Originally posted by Nodachi
40 + hours, around 48 or so i think spent in the last 2 weeks with numerours friends helping. went 0/6 on drop and finally today it became 1/7 :dead:

I was there! :p

[Peanut_Midgard]

Pardon my ignorance, but I have been trying to find out what Siren's Hair is for. I looked on various sites and couldn't find any information. Anyone knows?

I am trying to lure people to camp it for me

[Vilurum]

Check your local AH, under clothcraft I believe. That price tag is why most people want Siren's Hair. As for its actual use, it's used in a number of high level synths, including some cursed armor.

[Nodachi]

The only item i know of for sure is like Siren's Macrame, desired by summoners i guess. Other than that i think there's some other higher end synths that require it.

[Xerlic]

I have a group of 65BRD (me), 63 RDM, 67 PLD, and possibly a 63DRK. j0e said a well formed party of 55 can beat Novv. To anyone who has fought Novv, what are the chances of us defeating him? I'd hate to drag 2 or possibly 3 people down there to camp the NM only to not be able to defeat him and get people killed. Thanks.

[Xerlic]

I must have gotten really lucky when I fought him. Our group was PLD, PLD, DRK, MNK, BRD (me) level ranged from 62-67.

He popped within an hour of us killing Sahagins. And well..on the first kill:



Thanks to Ungerpurr, Durifto, Kamanao, and Merona of the Syndicate for helping me with the camp. ^^

[Jaysensen]

Kujata Server
Got my coat last night! Camped with SasakiKojiro 75 NIN, Amaterasu 70 PLD, Kleftis 60 DRK, Jericoforsaken 70something BLM and me-62 BRD. All friends/members of my LS.

I camped out this area for a week and a half maybe. Never ONCE did I see other people camping in the room, except for when we showed up. -.-
The other campers were friends of the PLD so they agreed to let me have the coat if it dropped, and they got the NM. We were there for about 2.5 hours, so they must have killed him right before we got there. They gave up at some point, and my PLD left. 10minutes later, he popped and left me my Coat (yay!) AND the hair (double yay!!).

A few days before, I saw a large group of 70+s in the room. I asked em for help, but they were going for Charybdis. Oh well, I hope they got the drop!

Thanks to my fellow Bards for all the great info. Without you guys I would still be wearing the ugly green jacket +1.

[Jaysensen]

Oops double post. Sorry!

[Layoneil]

but they were going for Charybdis. Oh well, I hope they got the drop!

Charybdis is camped for Joyeuse a 100% drop. problem is with getting him to pop (24 hours) and than killing him (not that he's a super hard HNM or anything).

[tfung]

Finally got the minstrel coat today. I was 1/5 for it.. Camped it on 5 seperate days over the course of 2 weeks. Never seen the NM pop more than once a RL day. Tho we haven't camped it more than 5 hours, so might be wrong. 2/5 for the hair, which was a nice bonus for the friends who came to help (I think it made them keep wanting to come back). Had pretty much the same PT setup for all the camping, which was 75drk, 75sam, 72rdm and 70drg and we had no problem keeping the entire room clear of sahagins. The mobs gave good skillups.. and should be good till about 200ish skill (EP to lvl75). Also good place to get testimonies for drg, mnk, whm and brd.. Must have seen over 100 of those drop in total...

[Nodachi]

Originally posted by tfung
Finally got the minstrel coat today. I was 1/5 for it.. Camped it on 5 seperate days over the course of 2 weeks. Never seen the NM pop more than once a RL day. Tho we haven't camped it more than 5 hours, so might be wrong. 2/5 for the hair, which was a nice bonus for the friends who came to help (I think it made them keep wanting to come back). Had pretty much the same PT setup for all the camping, which was 75drk, 75sam, 72rdm and 70drg and we had no problem keeping the entire room clear of sahagins. The mobs gave good skillups.. and should be good till about 200ish skill (EP to lvl75). Also good place to get testimonies for drg, mnk, whm and brd.. Must have seen over 100 of those drop in total...

Congrats, i know how much of a relief it is lol.

[Yoss]

Finally got this last night after being 0/2 and the last spawn taking 5-6 hours...vowing never to go back.

A friend was actually solo'ing it for a sirens hair and I screwed over there to help.

This was a goal from way back in the day, but depending on how much the new JSE body goes for it might never come out of my mog house ; ; ...not to mention I still think errant is better :p

I was wondering, are most people only getting the JSE feet/body? It seems like AF gloves, opo crown, and errant legs/AF legs are better than the other pieces. I guess the legs could be a toss up, but I don't think +1 chr, +1%mp (+2-3 mp) is worth a million gil more..

[Vilurum]

Gloves are well under 100K (last I checked they were 65K on my server, I got mine for 85K). Offer 12 MP, 1 more CHR, and a nice little 2 seconds off recast time, compared to AF gloves. You lose 5 singing skill, but as far as I've ever observed, singing skill doesn't affect success rate on debuffs the way wind/string skill does.

(It affects *potency* of songs, of course, but any high level bard can tell you just how much statistical difference even 23 skill - Wind Torque + Minstrel's Coat + AF pants + AF gloves + Demon Helm - will do for your songs. Namely ... 1-2 more points, if even that, to whatever they do, and no visible stat change at all for some songs like etudes and carols.)

I suspect that although singing definitely contributes to song potency, resistance is purely based on the appropriate skill for how you're using the song - wind, string, or singing if you use no instrument. If resistance were based on wind + singing ... a level 75 bard (capped skills, no skill+) would be working with the resist rate of 450 levels of skill. Which is quite obviously not the case.

Having established this, we're talking 4 CHR and an extremely slight effect on song potency vs. 5 CHR, 12 MP, and decreased recast time. My AF's now in the mog house.

As for the rest of the pieces, the head isn't as good as an Opo-opo Crown, and the body is a tradeoff of 2 less CHR and 5 less MP while resting (though you can switch Errant in for resting) for all the various other goodies it gets compared to Errant. Also note that the JSE doesn't have all those big minuses that Errant has, either. And there's definitely something to be said for looking stylish.

The main consideration on the other pieces is whether their benefits are worth the expense. Needless to say, if you're in a situation where MP is more beneficial, pure MP equipment (with possible incidental bits of CHR on it) is gonna be better anyway. Like Zenith. But if you're in a situation where CHR is more beneficial, you'll definitely want to use these ... if you can afford them.