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  • #16
    A monk at lv75 have delay of 300, even with the delay on weapon, assuming you use spartan, that would still be around 403 or something, which is like the delay of... great sword? but hitting twice or more add to it.. if you do the maths, 30+30+30+30+20 is higher than a single hit of 70 of the same delay O.o;

    Both RNG and MNK have their flaws, try shooting a skeleton with the bow, it'd be fun; try beatin a jelly with your fists, |excitement|.

    MNK to me, is a top ranked DD like RNG.(if you put DRK, SAM, DRG in the picture, MNK does better than them at 75, I would think)

    MNK tank? O.o; it cost a lot to do so, and like... 1/102093030830830829020 Parties would you get the chance to actually tank... 'No, MNK can't tank' is what you would get if you suggest tanking to parties... I am sure MNK can tank fine, since I tanked better than my friend's WAR at some stage, but there isn't many parties that would accept an uncommon tank.

    Personally, I'd prefer a PLD tank, since I outhate even PLD so easily, I need the |Cover| to keep me alive O.o; sometimes I need to pull my acc down so I won't hit as much >_>; (yes the tank provoked and did everything he can, and they seemed perfectly normal tankers)

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    • #17
      At 75 MNK/NIN can tank anything that is not a major HNM (gods, Faf/Behemoth/Adamantoise) just as well as anyone. They don't need provoke; at 75 nothing, even the baby HNMs (Serket, Roc, etc), is better than VT, meaning ACC isn't a huge issue and they hit very hard. I don't even bother trying to tank our MNKs on Aura Pots going for waters, they hit too hard, too fast on anything not IT or more (which, as said, is everything but major HNM at 75). A MNK with Avengers, Indra Katars, or Vishnu Cesti and Dune Boots makes tanking kind of irrelevent. A WAR can't match that damage without Juggernaut/Joyeuse/Ridill.

      The main issue with exp tanking is efficiency, and it's hard for PLD to get there. I've never had an 8k per hour exp pt with a PLD, but I've had many, many pts like that as a WAR/NIN tank or with a NIN/WAR tanking. I'm not saying it's impossible just because I haven't seen it but I'll say I think it's difficult to get there. WAR/NIN and NIN/WAR are inherently more efficient in exp because they greatly outdamage PLD while taking less damage and requiring less resources (PLD requires MP regen, a WHM, and damage coming from other sources; WAR just requires Carnage Elegy and Haste; NIN just requires Haste). Also MP never really becomes an issue in NIN or WAR pts because there isn't much being spent. The main thing a PLD brings to exp IMO is Cover.

      As a concession here though, while I think PLD is the worst exp tank, it's easily the most useful endgame tank, building more hate more easily over longer fights against higher defense mobs (where NIN and WAR benefit of doing more damage becomes null). PLD taking less damage than other tanks doesn't really matter much until we're talking a god hitting someone for 600 versus hitting the PLD for 200.

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        • #19
          Heh, yeah, I meant King Behemoth/Aspidechelone

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