Do we really need to buy a security token?

[Durahansolo]

Re: Do we really need to buy a security token?

Yeah, how'd they get into his account without the token? (Or was this before he got it?)

Two days after he reported it the GM returned 10 items to him and the next day when he logged in he was immediately contacted by a GM who appeared in his mog house and gave the rest of his stuff back to him.

Big Brother is watching. O_O.

That is good to hear that he got everything back though.

[Grizzlebeard]

Re: Do we really need to buy a security token?

Do we really need to buy a security token?

Are you playing again?

[Caspian]

Re: Do we really need to buy a security token?

I have to ask, how the hell were they able to log in without knowing what the code from the token was?

[TheGrandMom]

Re: Do we really need to buy a security token?

First off, I realize SE is unlikely to ever reply to this, it's more of a rhetorical question about FFXI seeming to turn to an RMT based business model. Secondly, I'm not doubting the value or purpose of a physical code to login.

I loathe to post this. I know some of the responses I'm going to get when I say this and its one of the reasons I didn't post this when it actually happened.

My son is 26 and he's played FFXI since the beginning. He's never given out his information to anyone.....ever.....not even me. With all the hacked accounts, he had a little bit of paranoia over his account possibly getting hacked so he invested in the token and used it every day. A couple weeks ago his account was partially hacked. He must have logged in and knocked whoever was on it off. They took nearly everything off his main character but had not gotten to his mules. He immediately changed his info and then contacted a GM.

Of course, we were expecting the usual bs and possibly months of getthing this fixed. It actually took 3 days. Two days after he reported it the GM returned 10 items to him and the next day when he logged in he was immediately contacted by a GM who appeared in his mog house and gave the rest of his stuff back to him.

[Feba]

Re: Do we really need to buy a security token?

1- Such a program can be used to exclusively send codes. There''s no reason it has to include advertisement or other account notifications if they're not requested.
2- Yes, but again, this service is already provided. Usually, they don't take more than a few seconds. If latency does become a problem, the length of time could easily be extended.

[Firewind]

Re: Do we really need to buy a security token?

"PS2 Limitations"








On a more serious note I wouldn't want SE getting hold of my cell phone number. I get enough spam texts daily from my service provider. I think I'd go mad if SE sent me a message every time I try to log on or every time I need to pay renew a content ID X_X

There is also a practical problem. The Security Tag code changes every minute. It can take considerably longer than a minute for that text to reach you and well by the time you get the text and input the password into POL your one time password will have changed so you will have to ask for another text message.

[Raydeus]

Re: Do we really need to buy a security token?

I always said including the satchel with the purchase of the token was a very clumsy (read very retarded) way to handle it.

And that's about all I have to say about it.





PS > I decided to buy the token waaaay before the satchel was on the map, but that's because I was already familiar with the use of security tokens and liked that way they work.

[Feba]

First off, I realize SE is unlikely to ever reply to this, it's more of a rhetorical question about FFXI seeming to turn to an RMT based business model. Secondly, I'm not doubting the value or purpose of a physical code to login.

What I am curious about is, I've seen services offered that do practically the same thing, but by sending an SMS message to the user's cellphone, instead of forcing them to use a dongle. This produces effectively the same result; sure, the user must wait from the time they begin to login until the SMS message arrives, instead of it being instantaneous, but it's a very quick process. And they obviously have tradeoffs-- the cellphone basically requires a good data plan, and a cellphone at all. You wouldn't be able to login while you're on a call, or as discreetly if you're in public for some reason. And it's slightly less secure, but for the purposes of an online game that's not really an issue. On the other hand, if you lose a cellphone, you'd have it replaced anyway, and your new login messages could simply go to the new one. Lose a dongle, and you have to pay more than you would've to have it replaced. The dongle requires more clutter, and you can't have two-- if you have a second cell phone (for example, shared accounts) it's very simple to just add an alternate number to send to.

But for all practical purposes, they both achieve the same ends in terms of account protection. Why, then, does SE not offer this service, and allow people to link a security code to their cell-phone, instead of a dongle? It's the same benefit and service, but could be done at no cost. Why is this a less valid requirement for Mog Satchel than the token? And if the token isn't just a way to make people pay for the Mog Satchel, but is truly supposed to be to get people to improve their security, why not offer this service?