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  • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

    Pet Peeve of the Day: Farmers farming FoV targets. I understand that the mobs aren't mine until claimed, and I get that people need to make money, but man, I just need one more damn bat/crawler/bee/whatever in order to finish this page before 24.00 passes me by so I can grab another page. I get that you want to make money or find some Gothic Sabatons, but could you at least leave something for me?

    To be fair though, the guy in Behemoth's Dominion the other day did totally leave me a Greater Gayla when I asked him nicely. But the guy farming Crawlers in Buburimu yesterday told me to fuck off.

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    • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

      Originally posted by Armando View Post
      Well now, that's not being very fair. Many ToAU mobs are leagues harder or more annoying than what CoP introduced. Anyone who's had the pleasure of fighting Soulflayers or Chariots knows that. And hell, who gives Ghosts a Death move? Or makes Morbols with permanent Endrain and that always use a TP move that steals (not dispels, steals) ALL your buffs? That's not really the issue with ToAU. It's having the weaker mobs available in very large numbers, with quick respawns, a skip and a hop away from the game's new hub city. They basically created a high level Kazham. Just because mandragora are defensively weak, respawn quickly, and have completely inconsequential TP moves (sound familiar?) it doesn't mean RoZ doesn't have difficult mobs though.

      I mean, look at spiders. They're one of the worst possible EXP targets I've ever seen, between that god-awful second-tier Slow and a crit move. With only one other TP move, there's a 2/3 chance that each TP move will suck hard.
      You have to admit though, they're not the sharpest knives in the drawer when it comes to item design. If they didn't get the whole HQ staff vs Laevateinn thing right, who's to say that back then some designer didn't think that str+12 and acc+10 wouldn't cancel out slow+13%?
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      • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

        Originally posted by Taskmage View Post
        who's to say that back then some designer didn't think that str+12 and acc+10 wouldn't cancel out slow+13%?
        The testers would have caught that.

        If it's something like Slow+1 a piece or Slow+5 for entire set, I can believe it may have been intended as TP gear with trade off. But, Slow+10 or more on a single piece? That would be pretty obvious it's not meant for gaining TP.

        It's not an amazing edge case; QA tester slapped on the entire Hecacomb set, kept it on full-time, botted five other party members with normal gear, and would have seen immediately that he sucked badly after a few battles--"Hey, I can't get TP!"

        * * *

        Maybe some premeire site can ask SE whether the Hecatomb Harness set was designed with the intention for full time use or not, but it'd be a waste of a question, IMO.
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        • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

          Originally posted by Elwynn View Post
          And then naturally the next day the items will be worth 2000 points each, and you'll have to take the change in HQ crystals.
          Okay, so I was a little off. Try more like 6000 points each. >.<

          Although this is actually one of what I consider to be an "I'll wait another day" item (I hate those "augment" synths), that doesn't change the fact that I'm still 60 freaking points away. At least tomorrow is an Amateur synth day, so I'll probably just have to get a couple of copper rings from next door or something like that.

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          Getting stuck with a Plasma Crystal is annoying too:
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          • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

            Originally posted by Armando View Post
            I mean, look at spiders. They're one of the worst possible EXP targets I've ever seen, between that god-awful second-tier Slow and a crit move. With only one other TP move, there's a 2/3 chance that each TP move will suck hard.
            Actually, one of the best parties I was ever in fought Spiders, in eastern Altep. They're not that bad, you just need to be careful with them.

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            • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

              I'm with Armando... Spiders suck for XP.
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              • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                When my LS buddies crack on me for crafting so much lol. I rarely level during the week and usually do more crafting then anything, then on the weekends I level. As much as I hate turning down duos and what not, I have to craft or farm and craft to make my living.
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                • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                  Stupid buyers.

                  They offer us a set amount of gil for something, and we accept their offer (or we tell them how much it is and they agree to pay it) and then when it drops, they suddenly don't have the money. It's especially bad with scheduled stuff, like Bv2 last night, people knew about it in advance but didn't save their money for the stuff they wanted.

                  Not only that, buyers do dumb stuff like get themselves killed on the way to Aery or whatnot. Some of them are so retarded it's amazing they have any gil at all (ok maybe not really, thanks brogame) but not terribly amazing that they can't get into a shell to earn those drops themselves.

                  And I know it's not like we "own" someone when they agree to buy from us, but it really irritates me when people buy from someone else because they went first. What ever happened to making an agreement and sticking to it?
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                  • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                    Actually, one of the best parties I was ever in fought Spiders, in eastern Altep. They're not that bad, you just need to be careful with them.
                    Well, if your party is super good you can make sweet EXP out of almost anything. But I'd wager you would've done just as well, if not better, on practically any other target barring those with obvious physical resistances that would wreck your kill speed.

                    And yeah OK. The Laevateinn thing was quite the blunder. I have to side with Itaz on this though. The Slow is ridiculously crippling and STR boosts are relatively underwhelming compared to Acc/Haste boosts (and it probably only takes 2 pieces of Heca for a real DD to cap their fSTR anyways). If they do any kind of testing at all there's no way they wouldn't have caught it.

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                    • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                      "Any kind of testing at all" would have revealed how broken Asuran Fists and Penta Thrust returning over 50% TP was (300% TP with relic knuckles?), but if I'm not mistaken that didn't get fixed until several months after the introduction of abjuration gear.
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                      • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                        Before passing harsh judgments on the old TP formula for multi-hit WS's, keep in mind how hard it was to get accuracy in that era--it was the time when everyone used magic WS to SC in order for BLMs to MB. The average TP return from the low damage, missing more than hit, physical WSs, even the multi-hit ones, were probably not of a great concern.

                        Integration testing is always hard for QA, and never comprehensive. But, when it comes to just testing a small new set of features (or, in this case, abjuration gear), it's standard practice to jam it all together and see what happens with everything turned on (or, equipped on the character).

                        I hardly think the designs were flawless to begin with; it was pretty obvious the devs and QA didn't investigate the implication of orthogonality of features well enough. (TP floor removal and max haste cap are two major things which came to mind for fixes which came belatedly long after the problem were introduced into the system. Can put multi-hit WS TP return adjustment after introducing more melee accuracy option in the same category as well, I suppose.)

                        However, slow+43% from a single set of armor is really too detrimental to not have been noticed, unless it was always intended for WS only--which is what I would argue is the more logical way of looking at the Hecatomb Harness set.

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                        Pet Peeve of the day: Gimp melee skills... Especially when it's mine... Party synched to one level above me, I had less than 155 skill when the cap for Lv.55 was 178.

                        It was so embarrassing to be swinging with 70% hit rate (first twenty monsters) as a two-hander. At least I dinged to Lv.56 and reached 176 skill, and was able to reach a more tolerable 84% hit rate bye the end (the last twenty critters). Wish I had thought of using better accuracy food than Crab Sushi while in party.
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                        • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                          I hate tanking Colibri on WAR. Please stop making me tank them. Please stop telling every other DD to sub NIN so I don't have a back up voker. Please. It's hard as hell to keep shadows up (okay impossible) and it really just gives me a huge headache. Please stop asking me to tank mobs that continually waste my Warcry by nullifying my TP, and that constantly Peck my shadows away as soon as I put them up.

                          Also, please stop complaining about me taking damage. WAR is not that great of a damn tank yet you made me do it anyway, knowing that there are lengthy periods of time in which I have nothing to shield myself with at all (Defender is okay but it doesn't do much) and there is no one else to take the heat off me so I can re-establish some kind of barrier between myself and the mob.

                          Fuck man is it so terrible that I want to get to 75 WAR and I don't want to be expected to tank all the god damn time?

                          ---------- Post added at 09:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:28 PM ----------

                          Oh yeah, and when the sync leaves and we sync to someone else, if you're gonna remove all my buffs SE, can you at least reset my timers?
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                          • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                            I HATE PLS.

                            So, I was in a Qufim island party, finishing up my last charge on my Anniversary ring, and then towards the end there (well, the end as in I didn't stay there for very long afterwards, as the Dedication effect) this really obnoxious Blue Mage comes and starts curing over me and calling me a "crappy random WHM" that he just wasn't going to allow his "friend" to be cured by (everyone in the party denied calling the PL, though, but I don't entirely believe them). While I may be a random crappy WHM, that is why I am leveling it, not only for the exp points, but maybe also so I can freaking get better at main healing on my own?

                            UGH, at least I have my new Anniversary Ring now. I don't even have to think about FFXI very much any more now. The most that there is left with a time limit is trying to get something else from the Adventurer Appreciation thing.
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                            • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                              Originally posted by Armando View Post
                              Well, if your party is super good you can make sweet EXP out of almost anything. But I'd wager you would've done just as well, if not better, on practically any other target barring those with obvious physical resistances that would wreck your kill speed.
                              Possibly, but that's not the point. There's probably always something more optimal out there, the point is that Spiders aren't that hard to manage; and you can in fact do very well with them.

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                              • Re: What's your pet peeve in FFXI?

                                Originally posted by Armando View Post
                                Well, if your party is super good you can make sweet EXP out of almost anything. But I'd wager you would've done just as well, if not better, on practically any other target barring those with obvious physical resistances that would wreck your kill speed.
                                Spiders are super squishy, even more so than scorpions. Before Colibri I think they were one of the squishiest mobs in the game. You could *really* tear them up if you had good enough hate control to not get anyone killed by sickle slash - even with the frequent slow. Of course these days nobody even knows what hate control is and your DDs would all end up dead, but maybe a static or LS party could do it.

                                It was a well-kept secret because only a few groups were good enough to take them down without deaths, though. The rest kept nibbling at crabs. Yeah, have fun with that, guys.


                                My current pet peeve: people who invite me to fight imps when I'm LFP on COR. My job is based on what? Job abilities. Imps spam an ability that prevents you from using what? Job abilities. Do the freakin' math, morons.

                                Of course I put imps {No thanks.} in my comment, but that doesn't stop the 90% of people who don't read comments.
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