XP Bots o.O

[Macht]

Originally posted by Prince Caspian
Agreed, why would you pay 15 bucks a month (or whatever it is) and not do anything apparently. That kind of stuff spreads like wildfire, it wont be long before it gets out and its nearly impossible for them to get an invite. Plus, ITS THE WHOLE GAME!!! If you have a bot to exp, a bot to fish or whatever and make money, a bot to camp NM's, what else is there? Even if its for endgame, they cant seriously want to bot for months and months and months only to play like shit on a god or something and get raped for it. I pose a question:
What the hell is wrong with this society?!!!!

What other countries have always said about us. Many of us are "Lazy A@# Americans" >.>

I know that's probably going to cause a whole feud of people (like children) saying "No we're not!", but I've worked with people that came in from Canada, Mexico, Australia, Japan, Korea, and India. I'd rather have a work force of those people then Americans, many of us are just to damn lazy.

If you watched the recent "Lost" episode and you see that Korean guy working away on the boat not stopping while the other American like people are sitting off relaxing. That is so damn real to life it's not funny, this whole crap about Americans working hard and playing hard is bull.

Even the dumb as hell commercials stating about how America has such a greater workforce then other countries. If you ever researched further on that statement you find our workforce is so much greater only because we took those people from other countries.

Hell even my sometimes predijuce mother as much as she hates to admit it, with her staffing job she's come to the same conclusion when she tries to get an American Respitory Technician to work compared to the Canadian ones they bring in every year during their busy season.

[TheGrandMom]

Originally posted by Macht
From the simple destription it sounds pretty bad to me -.-

Why the hell would I want a BLM that isn't going to be part of the SCs?

LOL Well I have gotten into my fair share of pt's with blm's that didn't or couldn't mb. I swear I have the crappiest luck in this game! In fact, the last time I ran into this, my character was in the low 60's! 60's, can you imagine that!? The blm just could not mb no matter how hard he tried. After much discussion in the pt, he said something along these lines, "It's no big deal! We are killing things just fine without it so I'm not going to even bother trying! Besides they get resisted most times anyways!" Yes as you can imagine, he was replaced. LOL

[Deathguise]

I had a similar sort of experience in Qufim. Our monk was a bot that put someone in our party on follow and would /assist and attack. Once we figured it out we cast sneak on the legit player and he ran out into a whole bunch of undead, we then left him. He would not stop following this guy, equipment changing didn't help and he was just leeching us.

[Kyoto]

americans are UBER LAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The other countries make it and we use it. Thats y there arent American gill sellers. . . .

i tell other ppl this and all i get is "Other countries stole our technology" my reply is "And they made it better" we make cars and other countrys make em better we make PCs and other coutries make em better. If its made in the US its probally a pencil and it will break in a second. I had an american made TV and threw a pellow at it and the thing almost exploded...

i mean common its really bad when i look at the american flagg above my desk and in the bottom right hand corner there is a lil piece of paper that says "Made in Tiwan" . . .

oh now back to this whole bot thing ya there are out there and ya peeps use em. Most ppl join a site that sells em and have everyone put in a lil $$. i know one LS i was in askd if everyone wanted to put in $0.10 a month and join one.

[Caspian]

Originally posted by Kyoto
americans are UBER LAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The other countries make it and we use it. Thats y there arent American gill sellers. . . .

i tell other ppl this and all i get is "Other countries stole our technology" my reply is "And they made it better" we make cars and other countrys make em better we make PCs and other coutries make em better. If its made in the US its probally a pencil and it will break in a second. I had an american made TV and threw a pellow at it and the thing almost exploded...

i mean common its really bad when i look at the american flagg above my desk and in the bottom right hand corner there is a lil piece of paper that says "Made in Tiwan" . . .

OT: Yeah, some of what you say is true, but part of that is it all boils down to the almighty dollar. American owned companies can make stuff in foreign countries cheaper simply due to cheaper materials and lower minimum wages.

On topic: I havent really had any experiences with this (havent xp'd in months and I'm assuming this is a more recent problem) First I'd wanna be sure they were actually bot, fucking with a poor player prolly wont make them any better, itll only serve to make you look like an ass and piss them off. If they are a bot, I'd just do like they did with the monk and find a way to get thim killed. Don't suppose its against the rules if the char willingly follows you into a pack of angry bones.
Again though, I fail to see the point of this game at all if you skip the entire thing with a bot. Does anyone actually know the exact reason you would do this? Are they doing it so they can resell their character on IGE or something?

[TheGrandMom]

Originally posted by Kyoto
Thats y there arent American gill sellers. . . .

I know of a good sized group of American gil sellers. They all go to the same college. They rotate the playing hours between them so they are always on making gil. They split the money between them. A friend of my son goes to the same college and was offered a position because he's played FFXI. He called me and asked me for advice. I wouldn't be surprised if this was happening on more than one campus.

[C.D]

Originally posted by Jei
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anyway i PT with a european WHM once. He couldn't speak english nor Japanese and only speak french... -.- and my god not only we couldn't communicate, he was level 55 with no raise 2, no cure 4, no stona. it's a nightmare

I party'ed with an american Ranger yesterday, a level 36 mithran dude. He could speak english but he refused to answer to my questions and satisfy my requests for a good 2 hours of party. Let alone the fact that he probably typed just two times during the whole exp session.
I was playing Thief, we had a tarutaru ninjer tank but no trick partner at all so I just needed him to stand behind the mob and pull the hate like every other ranger on my server, to let me trick the tank.
After tenth of /tells and attempts in /p chat I just gave up and started to Sneak Attack the mob and tanking, sharing the hate with the ninja or tricking the japanese BLM (lol...anyhow a very good player, he was moving to the melee zone after getting hate, to give me a chance to SA+TA the tank when needed) if the mob was about to die, waiting for the final fist.

He never really used Utsusemi, but he was acting too much stupidly, even if compared to a bot software IA.

I also party'ed with several White Mages level 70+ that absolutely avoided to cast Haste on me and started to bitch like mofos after my (polite) requests, even if I was playing as main tank...blink tank. It seems that for some peoples healers should just cast cure, raise and Divine Veil + Erase every once in a while and after that going afk while resting...orz.

So, long story short, you could see by yourself that roughness, lack of "skill" (I prefer to call it "knowledge of the game mechanics", since we're talking about mages in this case) and stupidity in general are common even among high levels and human players.

And ah, I'm european.

[Dux]

Originally posted by C.D
I also party'ed with several White Mages level 70+ that absolutely avoided to cast Haste on me and started to bitch like mofos after my (polite) requests, even if I was playing as main tank...blink tank

There are times when casting Haste on a Melee is not a good idea. Granted, when that Melee is blink tanking for the party Haste is absolutely essential and no good WHM would argue otherwise.

However I will refuse to Haste melee that are not the primary tank where hate control is light. You may be surprised how many more hundreds (yes hundreds) of MP points it costs a WHM just by casting Haste on one melee.

Frustratingly pretty much only the WHM (possibly BRD/RDM) really see this and people complain they have no haste without really understanding why.

[TheGrandMom]

Originally posted by Dux
There are times when casting Haste on a Melee is not a good idea.

You know I really hate the spell Haste. I wish they would have never given it to whm's. >.< I get so many different views from different people on when and who to haste. So your in one pt doing your thing and then someone tells you contrary to what you are doing so you change it. Then you get a different pt the next day and your told something else. You basically have to conform to whatever the pt wants for each pt. It can be maddening.

I always haste the tank. Period. Thats a given. But then comes the grey void. If you have another member in the pt that can haste you share the duties right? WRONG. At least 80% of the pts I've been in, I am the sole haster. If another mage is asked to cast haste, they think its a one time deal. So there you are killing stuff thats doing massive status crap, curing people, casting regens, sometimes even casting enfeebles, and now add a couple more hastes to your program....YIPPEE!! Oh no, no problem, I'm not busy and I have an endless amount of MP!! >.<

Its really fun when your down to dribbles of mp left and someone is barking for a haste. Um....ya...riiiiiiiiiight. I have 22 mp, here let me pull that out of my...... It's 40 mp a cast people! 40 mp x 3 people is 120 mp! Thats a good chunk of change there! LOL

I apologize for the little off topic rant but this is one spell that vexes me.

[Jei]

It's not too hard, usually Ninja are a must haste tanks, Thf and Mnk are good to haste, and Drk you should avoid hasting em -.- pretty much.

Anything else like war sam rng etc it doesn't really matter if you haste them or not.

[TheGrandMom]

Originally posted by Jei
It's not too hard, usually Ninja are a must haste tanks, Thf and Mnk are good to haste, and Drk you should avoid hasting em -.- pretty much.

Anything else like war sam rng etc it doesn't really matter if you haste them or not.

I never said it was "hard". My post is about frustration. Frustration with rdm's that refuse to haste on a regular basis, furstration with every single melee in the game thinking they MUST HAVE haste, and frustration with people that don't realize that sometimes, because of mp restraints, you can't or shouldn't cast it on everyone. I'm glad you seem to not have run into these type of issues but not everyone lives in your world.

[Vandiyan]

Originally posted by Macht

If you watched the recent "Lost" episode and you see that Korean guy working away on the boat not stopping while the other American like people are sitting off relaxing. That is so damn real to life it's not funny, this whole crap about Americans working hard and playing hard is bull.

Not to get technical but he is mainly just trying to get away from his wife on the show. Most guys would do anything to get away from them. LOL j/k

A blanket statement to say Americans are lazy is probably not the best thing to do. There are a lot of lazy people in America are not from here originally that are just as lazy.

[TheGrandMom]

Originally posted by Vandiyan


A blanket statement to say Americans are lazy is probably not the best thing to do. There are a lot of lazy people in America are not from here originally that are just as lazy.

There are lazy people everywhere in every corner of this planet. What cracks me up is the uneducated guesses at what country has the majority of lazy people. And its also funny, to see people that sit for hours in front of a computer lvling a character in a virtual world instead of using that time to do something productive in their lives or society, b***h about laziness! It's the epitome of hypocrisy!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Macht]

Originally posted by Vandiyan
Not to get technical but he is mainly just trying to get away from his wife on the show. Most guys would do anything to get away from them. LOL j/k

A blanket statement to say Americans are lazy is probably not the best thing to do. There are a lot of lazy people in America are not from here originally that are just as lazy.

Oh I didn't intend it as a blanket statement at all. Yes there are lazy people all around the world, that I know for sure I had a step father that was Egyptian and the laziest person I've ever seen.

On average though you will see that Americans do tend to be lazier then anyone else. Here's a great example that happens EVERY year during the busy season when my mother's staffing the hospitals with the respritory techs. EVERY year when they bring in the Canadians, and you have the American and Canadians Techs calling.

Both of them call and complain like babies, but the funniest part is the American call complaining that they are working to much and the Canadians call complaining that they are not working enough. When you look at the books though the Canadians are easily working twice as much as the American techs and they are still complaining that they aren't getting enough work o.O

Seriously the lazy and selfish attitudes you see in Amercians on average is far worse then anywere else. You go to other countries and on average you can find something about them that'll fit the stereotype, however assuming that to be true of everyone from that country is of course wrong to do.

But just look at Simon from the "American Idol" he's one of the people that fits his countries stereotype about them almost to a T, but then when you look at other shows like I think the nanny's (or some of them at least) from "Nanny 911" are from the same country and don't fit the stereotype at all.

As bad as stereotypes are I think they do have significant value in indicating the gerenal populouses actions, and America's general populous are lazy as hell and very self-centered. When I went to Germany and when I had some of my Grandmother's friends from Germany come visit , for the first it was a complete shock to me because the culture and additude was nothing like I had thought. Most of that shock was because the impression I had was totally wrong with our history and the depiction of Hitler and association of Germany to him.

Germany and other places I've visted I actually think the people themselves are far kinder and more selfless then Americans can be. When you play MMORPGs were there is limited American influence you see behaviors and actions you'd just about never see from Americans.

[Jei]

Originally posted by TheGrandMom
I never said it was "hard". My post is about frustration. Frustration with rdm's that refuse to haste on a regular basis, furstration with every single melee in the game thinking they MUST HAVE haste, and frustration with people that don't realize that sometimes, because of mp restraints, you can't or shouldn't cast it on everyone. I'm glad you seem to not have run into these type of issues but not everyone lives in your world.

that's why you need a good rdm like me And non-bot players who are willing to talk lol.

anyway I live in US, where else can be worse.