The definitive BCNM50 thread?

[davidmmmm9]

you are such a noobasaur joey, I swear
7am central

[Yuna]

jonny is going without me

oh well... i'm not coming back to vanadiel till tuesday. i wish you guys the best of luck

[EcKo]

>< sorry guys i was in a PT and i didn't even know the time i really wanted to do this to..........am sure i can make the 2nd one if you guys let me i tried to get another whm but i couldn't find one best of luck to you guys and tell the Monsters that i'll be waiting for them =).

Ecko~

[Cobalt Katze]

I'll sign up for whenever, but most likely I'll be a bit too useless.

DRG40/MNK20

Hopefully by the end of the weekend that'll change to:

DRG40/THF20

[Jonnyram]

OK, we went two times this weekend, and guess what - we failed. Anyway, names won't be mentioned unless people want to do so.

First attempt, Saturday night.
Party configuration:
RDM/BLM | BRD/WHM | BRD/WAR | PLD/WAR | WAR/THF | THF/WHM

The THF/WHM was an odd combination, I know, but a bit of a last minute addition because we were down on numbers. I used my orb for this one and supplied 95% of all potions etc. Most people also came with a reraise scroll, except for the THF/WHM who was a Japanese player.

So things were going alright for a while, I don't actually remember who died first (presume the PLD), but we got the black mandragora down to 25% health. We all died pretty quickly after the first guy died, but we were down in the starting part so we could wait for the turnips to run back and reraise. Reraising took a long time because THF didn't have a scroll and couldn't be raised until the 5 min curse was lifted due to my MP level.

Second attempt, without either of the bards or PLD, or WAR having 2hr left, went better than the first in some ways. One of the BRD's died straight away, presumably a victim of flood, but the whites were asleep at least. We managed to kick the black good and proper, but most people were dead by the time the black conked out, so there was no way we could clean up the whites afterwards. And the BC time limit was up before we dezoned after death, so the people waiting for the BC kindly raised us.

So close, yet so far... and with such a weird party combo >_<


Second attempt, Sunday night
Party configuration:
RDM/BLM | BRD/WAR | BRD/WHM | PLD/WAR | WAR/THF | SMN/WHM

This party config made so much more sense, and we were all really positive about this. Some of us had potions left from last night so we made the most of those, and topped up with contributions from most of the players.

The fight was going pretty well, but all was lost on one fatal move, I fear. I started drinking a yagudo drink to charge my MP and just as I started, the black mando started casting flood!! >_< I could feel the tears of loss coming to my eyes already as I watched the time bar fill up as I consumed the drink of evil. I used seirei for a decisive hit, but it was too late, by the time my silence was cast, our paladin was flat on his back. At this point, panic ensued, and as the white mandos came hurtling down the runway, there was no space or time to raise the paladin. The two bards did their best to sleep the whites, but in doing so, MP came to a low and we were unable to do much more damage to the black. The party started collapsing: BRD, then WAR, then BRD, then RDM, then SMN, and without reraise scrolls (under my advice, since we would have missed the time limit last time) we had to dezone gracefully.

Thanks very much, and also humble apologies, to the people who gave up their time, money and exp, to help in this fight. It was exhilarating as always, but a bit heart-breaking in the end.

Lessons learned:
- two bards are great, but must be very well coordinated to get the maximum effect.
- curing is not a major part of this fight while the whites are asleep. With the right potions, bards can take care of themselves and the whm or rdm should concentrate on hurting the black as well as curing blind, paralysis etc.
- flood takes a long time to cast, but it's not as long as you might want. Try to use items while the black mando is casting other magic, like paralyze or blind, so that you can be sure not to miss the start of flood >_<
- odd party combos can work. The important part of this fight is having a bard sleep the whites. Once that is done, you shouldn't receive much physical damage because the black likes to use magic instead.
- hate control, hate control, hate control. This can't be said enough times. If your bards are getting hit, you are doing something wrong.

[[3viL]3D]

Originally posted by Xuande

- Pine juice is faster to drink and more cost - performance effective than yag drinks.

I suppose you meant melon juice? pine juice sux...
:dead:
BTW I will be BACK!!! soon...

[Ayako]

ack, sorry I wasn't around and/or ready. Blame work, my far too clingy girlfriend, Fire Pro Z, and the lack of sleep caused by all of the above. Not to mention the lame duck leveling parties I have been saddled with lately (when I actually get one.) Got sub job leveling done, so just need 4000 exp with DRG to be ready to go.

[joey_pizz]

I have to say even though we lost, (I'm the WAR) It was really fun. I'd like to have another shot at this now that we all have some experience. We should do it again really soon. Something should be set up again. ^-^

[Jonnyram]

Now that we are getting more used to the idea of not having reraise scrolls, fighting up at the stage makes so much more sense. I agree there is no point in keeping the mages distanced from the pack - it just causes havoc and makes it harder for the paladin to cure mages if necessary. Thanks for the tips Xuande - I am sure we will make use of them soon!

[Yuna]

We tried again tonight. Lost.

money spent for me = 25K
exp lost = 1100 (estimated)
time lost = 3 hours
fun factor = very very high
end story = very very fun just like a game should be

[davidmmmm9]

I really think we could have won if we had reraise scrolls and fought just a little further back than where we were.
the black one was dead within 10 minutes, after we all died and reraised ourself and zombie went away, it would be about 15-20 minutes passed. leaving us 12-15 minutes to take out just 6 white mandos

we'll get them next time
it was close
...kinda :sweat:

maybe I will sponsor one soon and use my bcnm coins
although, after today, I only have 1,700 gil left (TT)

[Ayako]

ok, ready to go. just let me know a time and place if you want me.

[Cobalt Katze]

Mkay, just an update: My thief is at 21 and subbable for BCNM. So:

Cobbi
DRG40/THF20

Ready to go any time.

[Jonnyram]

I think we're getting close to the point where we can win this fight Last night's attempt was a clear difference in so many areas, but the fight was lost for a number of small points. Most of the points were rather embarrassing though, and can be put down to people's excitement to take part in this. For people who haven't done this yet, and even for people who have done it, please be patient... if conditions aren't exactly perfect for the fight, don't bother doing it - you will just be wasting time and money.

- everyone must have the right equipment
- people should be aware of the tactics before the fight starts
- items should be consumed at appropriate timing

These points are painfully basic, but even I messed up on one of them.

[Soniti]

@_@

Well, earlier todays attempt, as almost expected, was a failure. We took out the black mando, but he casted flood first. Took out Elanor in 1 hit... >< Poor Elanor. Bottom line, we all died, I leveled down ( @_@ ) and now I have a revenge issue with those satan mandos. Their days are numbered.


~Soniti